DC Fall Damage FTW

Sallington

#ALLFACTIONSZERGUSEMETEOR

ChrisXO

To be honest I have no idea if people are using meteor more often. It's my favourite ultimate and I've had ice comet slotted since the summer, and I feel as though I've been hit with ice more recently... but that could also be a manifestation of the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon (the illusion in which a word, a name, or other thing that has recently come to one's attention suddenly seems to appear with improbable frequency shortly afterwards - wiki) because we're talking about it here.

And also mah purify doesn't care if everybody runs it. You do you, DC.

God_flakes

Zheg wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

LMAO. 4 am pop locked pvdooring the map. You want everyone to leave Azura? Keep it up.

Bro, as you posted that, there is a raid of EP front dooring Arrius.

They came down on BRK hard and with a vengeance...that was at least 30, probably closer to 40 of them.

Ya. The funny thing is DC has emp and BRK was the only non DC emp keep. Do they push West with their zerg or South. The answer is.........

Double team AD!!!!

FFS. For a solid 3+ hours during primetime, the only red and yellow action in that corridor was BRK mine going yellow by a few pugs and then it being untouched. It'd be one thing if I was exaggerating, but alas, that's what the map looked like. We fended off both alliances while they stacked for most fights and came close to losing our scrolls. People sound like they should be wearing a helmet 24/7 when they complain about being double teamed as if they didn't just do it hours before themselves. Yellow has made plays exactly like the one you're making fun of red for plenty of times. Literally the day before we had to put up with crown emp and the glory zerg that comes with that, but suddenly only blue is the problem?

As for the meteor, yellow got salty and accused us of dumping meteors on flat ground at brindle like it was some morale faux pas, a single meteor was dropped on our end, the remaining 10 or so were dropped by yellow and reflected. This is the level of absurdity that you guys are at right now. Do we need to record every single fight now to show you how ridiculous some of the salt is?

These threads could MAYBE be taken seriously if they were about the stupid emp system as a whole and not a salty thread when your alliance isn't the one with more numbers or winning at that exact moment. Seriously, do we need one of these salt threads on a daily basis? I've died plenty of times to yellow fall damage, from pugs and raids. Everyone needs to grow the eff up.

Please use salt, salty or salt thread one more time! This post doesn't complain about salt enough! ;-)

God_flakes

stealthyevil wrote: »

While meteor spam is annoying, and I hate dying to fall damage over and over every night, fact is it is ZOS' fault. Fall damage should never be a thing from an ultimate. Lag is annoying, hoards of people in one place cause lag, fact is it is ZOS' fault. They made a game for massive alliance wars, and now it can't run properly without massive lag issues. I think it is unfair to blame certain individuals/guilds/alliances for multiple problems when they should have never been problems in the first place. I do enjoy this game, I just cannot imagine how awesome it would be if it ran as fluidly as it was meant to.

Thank you! I agree with all of this. However, it should be noted that an apt analogy would be this: zos are like parents who create a chaotic home environment and some eso players are like recalcitrant teenagers who take advantage of that to make everyone's lives miserable. I blame both.

Teargrants

CN_Daniel wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Well tbh DC is a unbeatable juggernaut. Look at the scoreboard. lol

Its not that you communicated with others to use it. never said that. But its human nature when you see that fall damage to want to get even. So then they do it. Then others get hit with that bug and now they respond.

Like i said you explained your reasoning for testing what you did and i agree it was legit. The reason i say you guys are responsible is you kill ALOT of players being a prominent guild. So therefore it spread much quicker than others. It was not nearly this spread before you guys did the testing you did.

People have talked about the leaderboard for the past 2 cycles in other posts. People are farming and fed ticks, and alma literally just doesn't log and has her husband take over playing the account when she needs a break. Yes, the top guilds in blue make really good AP because we get a lot of kills, and that's because we either win fights or because we're constantly running to fights and trying to win. I feel like I play a 'lot' and have mostly stopped playing alts and I'm still not even close to top 10 even though I'm in one of the top raids in the game. On saturday we almost lost all of our home stuff and scrolls because CN had chalman and red were potatoing into it and they wanted to make sure they farmed enough AP to maintain emp; that was one of the few times I yelled at daniel in zone chat as I've mostly tried to put the stupid past drama to bed. Can we please not look at the leaderboard and make silly assumptions other than the reality of the situation which is farming and entire guilds feeding ticks. Thank you. As for the scoreboard, as of yesterday we were in like 2nd place and the score was tight, I don't see how that equates to unbeatable juggernaut. The last campaign ended in a pretty close 3way as well, so again your point is moot.

All I'm getting from your post is that we are so prominent and have so much influence. So prominent in fact, that when haxus did it for months no one else started to use it, but VE uses it once and it's now wild fire

You guys are delusional if you think we feed her ticks. We've followed your dude around and watched you leave him 2 back to back 9k ticks 2 days ago.

[snip] Everyone knows you feed Alma ticks, your own guild members have commented about it to us.

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CN_Daniel

ataggs wrote: »

We did it one day openly, once. Are you guys still that hurt about it? You think I'm going to let you dethrone her? [snip]

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Winnamine

CN_Daniel wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Well tbh DC is a unbeatable juggernaut. Look at the scoreboard. lol

Its not that you communicated with others to use it. never said that. But its human nature when you see that fall damage to want to get even. So then they do it. Then others get hit with that bug and now they respond.

Like i said you explained your reasoning for testing what you did and i agree it was legit. The reason i say you guys are responsible is you kill ALOT of players being a prominent guild. So therefore it spread much quicker than others. It was not nearly this spread before you guys did the testing you did.

People have talked about the leaderboard for the past 2 cycles in other posts. People are farming and fed ticks, and alma literally just doesn't log and has her husband take over playing the account when she needs a break. Yes, the top guilds in blue make really good AP because we get a lot of kills, and that's because we either win fights or because we're constantly running to fights and trying to win. I feel like I play a 'lot' and have mostly stopped playing alts and I'm still not even close to top 10 even though I'm in one of the top raids in the game. On saturday we almost lost all of our home stuff and scrolls because CN had chalman and red were potatoing into it and they wanted to make sure they farmed enough AP to maintain emp; that was one of the few times I yelled at daniel in zone chat as I've mostly tried to put the stupid past drama to bed. Can we please not look at the leaderboard and make silly assumptions other than the reality of the situation which is farming and entire guilds feeding ticks. Thank you. As for the scoreboard, as of yesterday we were in like 2nd place and the score was tight, I don't see how that equates to unbeatable juggernaut. The last campaign ended in a pretty close 3way as well, so again your point is moot.

All I'm getting from your post is that we are so prominent and have so much influence. So prominent in fact, that when haxus did it for months no one else started to use it, but VE uses it once and it's now wild fire

You guys are delusional if you think we feed her ticks. We've followed your dude around and watched you leave him 2 back to back 9k ticks 2 days ago.

People in your guild have already admitted so. Why do you all get so nasty when someone else threatens that top spot?

We did it one day openly, once. Are you guys still that hurt about it? You think I'm going to let you dethrone her after?

It's fairly obvious Daniel. Even if multiple CN players hadn't complained openly about it, the fact is, campaign resets, and within a few hours, she is miiiiiiles ahead of the rest of your guild. Assuming she's playing with the group, which she does appear to be, how is she making so much more AP than everyone else? In fact...it's always her....and then you...and then way down there, everyone else. Odd, that.

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Satiar

CN_Daniel wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Well tbh DC is a unbeatable juggernaut. Look at the scoreboard. lol

Its not that you communicated with others to use it. never said that. But its human nature when you see that fall damage to want to get even. So then they do it. Then others get hit with that bug and now they respond.

Like i said you explained your reasoning for testing what you did and i agree it was legit. The reason i say you guys are responsible is you kill ALOT of players being a prominent guild. So therefore it spread much quicker than others. It was not nearly this spread before you guys did the testing you did.

People have talked about the leaderboard for the past 2 cycles in other posts. People are farming and fed ticks, and alma literally just doesn't log and has her husband take over playing the account when she needs a break. Yes, the top guilds in blue make really good AP because we get a lot of kills, and that's because we either win fights or because we're constantly running to fights and trying to win. I feel like I play a 'lot' and have mostly stopped playing alts and I'm still not even close to top 10 even though I'm in one of the top raids in the game. On saturday we almost lost all of our home stuff and scrolls because CN had chalman and red were potatoing into it and they wanted to make sure they farmed enough AP to maintain emp; that was one of the few times I yelled at daniel in zone chat as I've mostly tried to put the stupid past drama to bed. Can we please not look at the leaderboard and make silly assumptions other than the reality of the situation which is farming and entire guilds feeding ticks. Thank you. As for the scoreboard, as of yesterday we were in like 2nd place and the score was tight, I don't see how that equates to unbeatable juggernaut. The last campaign ended in a pretty close 3way as well, so again your point is moot.

All I'm getting from your post is that we are so prominent and have so much influence. So prominent in fact, that when haxus did it for months no one else started to use it, but VE uses it once and it's now wild fire

You guys are delusional if you think we feed her ticks. We've followed your dude around and watched you leave him 2 back to back 9k ticks 2 days ago.

People in your guild have already admitted so. Why do you all get so nasty when someone else threatens that top spot?

We did it one day openly, once. Are you guys still that hurt about it? You think I'm going to let you dethrone her?

That you consider having someone else from the same faction equal to "dethroning" Alma is kinda sad. But hey. It means a lot to you so keep on keeping on. The only emp we really wanted to crown was BBQ and it got done despite your best. [snip]

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Ghostbane

Does the guild not take turns in crowning one another, or is it always Alma ?

I'd get pretty pee'd off if I kept giving up rewarding AP for the same person.

Satiar

Ghostbane wrote: »

Does the guild not take turns in crowning one another, or is it always Alma ?

I'd get pretty pee'd off if I kept giving up rewarding AP for the same person.

Only Alma.

Winnamine

Ghostbane wrote: »

Does the guild not take turns in crowning one another, or is it always Alma ?

I'd get pretty pee'd off if I kept giving up rewarding AP for the same person.

I've yet to see it be anyone but Alma on Azuras, or maybe once it was Daniel? He passed her on the leaderboard once, but I can't remember if he got crowned or not.

Lexxypwns

I'm SUPER EXCITED for this thieves guild pts so I can get some of that delicious PC NA salt for my popcorn

Zheg

I'd really rather not have the big blue drama rear up again. The only reason I even brought it up is because red and yellow have repeatedly talked about the leaderboards for blue over the past few campaigns as if it actually signified anything even remotely real or balance related, and I wanted to point out the obvious fact that it's just pure farming and feeding of ticks. When entire clusters of people in the same group are close to each other AP wise, that's the better baseline to be using, not the anomalies.

Frankly, it is what it is, ZOS is well aware of how that AP is earned and they don't deem it problematic or unintended enough to act on it, and though she may do it to a larger extent than others, she isn't the only one. The failed emp system and the mechanics by which emp is determined are all on ZOS, as is almost every other problem in the game. The emp system is something that Brian has complete control over, so it's not even like we can blame this one on Wrobel like we normally can with everything else that's a pressing issue.

Besides of which, it was removed because ZOS mods gonna mod. If we could harness even half of their energy to highlight issues raised on the forums to the proper channels, the game might not be a running meme joke.

Darnathian

Winnamine wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Does the guild not take turns in crowning one another, or is it always Alma ?

I'd get pretty pee'd off if I kept giving up rewarding AP for the same person.

I've yet to see it be anyone but Alma on Azuras, or maybe once it was Daniel? He passed her on the leaderboard once, but I can't remember if he got crowned or not.

The only time i saw him try was a Sunday morning at 5 am attempt at a nightcap with full raid. We got like 14 together quick and wiped him numerous times trying.

WRX

For the last few campaigns its been like nearly all CN members at the top. Pretty disappointing. I don't think all those accounts are being fed AP or have many people playing them.

Zheg

WRX wrote: »

For the last few campaigns its been like nearly all CN members at the top. Pretty disappointing. I don't think all those accounts are being fed AP or have many people playing them.

Just the one. The rest are inflated from farming, which is usually ok map wise if we have ales/ash since we tend to focus objectives and pushing the front line. Occasionally we can get bulb to go to the bridge at night if the map is solid, but he's never been one to go tower farm for hours on end as a raid lead.

Satiar

Zheg wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

For the last few campaigns its been like nearly all CN members at the top. Pretty disappointing. I don't think all those accounts are being fed AP or have many people playing them.

Just the one. The rest are inflated from farming, which is usually ok map wise if we have ales/ash since we tend to focus objectives and pushing the front line. Occasionally we can get bulb to go to the bridge at night if the map is solid, but he's never been one to go tower farm for hours on end as a raid lead.

We always have multiple people in top 10. Would have more but I don't let them have Dee Ticks. They rot the soul.

Sides, you know us. How often do we stay in one place and defend? always pushing !

SkylarkAU

another day another #dramafallcovenant thread..

Manoekin

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Satiar wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

For the last few campaigns its been like nearly all CN members at the top. Pretty disappointing. I don't think all those accounts are being fed AP or have many people playing them.

Just the one. The rest are inflated from farming, which is usually ok map wise if we have ales/ash since we tend to focus objectives and pushing the front line. Occasionally we can get bulb to go to the bridge at night if the map is solid, but he's never been one to go tower farm for hours on end as a raid lead.

We always have multiple people in top 10. Would have more but I don't let them have Dee Ticks. They rot the soul.

Sides, you know us. How often do we stay in one place and defend? always pushing !

May the lord have mercy on your soul.

Satiar

Manoekin wrote: »

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Satiar wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

For the last few campaigns its been like nearly all CN members at the top. Pretty disappointing. I don't think all those accounts are being fed AP or have many people playing them.

Just the one. The rest are inflated from farming, which is usually ok map wise if we have ales/ash since we tend to focus objectives and pushing the front line. Occasionally we can get bulb to go to the bridge at night if the map is solid, but he's never been one to go tower farm for hours on end as a raid lead.

We always have multiple people in top 10. Would have more but I don't let them have Dee Ticks. They rot the soul.

Sides, you know us. How often do we stay in one place and defend? always pushing !

May the lord have mercy on your soul.

All love me and despair.

Telel

Perhaps that one is like this one and it is not about the fact they are good or bad.

Rather it is about that they are the one willing to stand in front of the blobs and shout 'NUUUU go right, go right and get on crrrownnnn!!!!'

At least that's the reason for people putting up with Telel.

Ghostbane

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An Emperor to me, is if a keep is flagged by a group of 15 half-competent enemies, they would be able to deal with that reasonably well on their own. There is zero argument on that, that is a minimum expectation.

People like Mountain Hound or Drackens as Emp, I can see that happening. Current heiresses, I fail to see why they are being backed.


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Darnathian

Satiar wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

For the last few campaigns its been like nearly all CN members at the top. Pretty disappointing. I don't think all those accounts are being fed AP or have many people playing them.

Just the one. The rest are inflated from farming, which is usually ok map wise if we have ales/ash since we tend to focus objectives and pushing the front line. Occasionally we can get bulb to go to the bridge at night if the map is solid, but he's never been one to go tower farm for hours on end as a raid lead.

We always have multiple people in top 10. Would have more but I don't let them have Dee Ticks. They rot the soul.

Sides, you know us. How often do we stay in one place and defend? always pushing !

Well spoken. They rot the soul. I like that. I am 100k from Frenzy 2. cant wait to never care about AP again.

MountainHound

Minno wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

I feel zos would fix alot of problems by just removing Meteors.

Just the knockback/up effect will do. But it will probably break Templar BOL and heavy armor at the same time.

It might even break the new toilets being made... best leave it be

Darnathian

Ghostbane wrote: »

An Emperor to me, is if a keep is flagged by a group of 15 half-competent enemies, they would be able to deal with that reasonably well on their own. There is zero argument on that, that is a minimum expectation.

People like Mountain Hound or Drackens as Emp, I can see that happening. Current heiresses, I fail to see why they are being backed.

Just her. Jules and Vare were the only other females i remember recently being emp. Both are rediculous to kill without it. Let alone with it


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iamnotweakrwb17_ESO

I read all 4 pages. All I got out of this thread was..

Blocking meteor is hard yo
Emperor is serious business
Too many T bags, yet nobody is making tea.

Minno

MountainHound wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

MountainHound wrote: »

I feel zos would fix alot of problems by just removing Meteors.

Just the knockback/up effect will do. But it will probably break Templar BOL and heavy armor at the same time.

It might even break the new toilets being made... best leave it be

Lol. Be careful what we say, we may get an "no ETA at this time" for the Super Mario Scrolls Online DLC.

frozywozy

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I read all 4 pages. All I got out of this thread was..

Blocking meteor is hard yo
Emperor is serious business
Too many T bags, yet nobody is making tea.

All I got out of this thread is that E-peen is still going hard between DC guilds for emperorship and from all the footage I got yesterday around Chal, we can see clearly that what some DC guilds care the most for is emperorship and AP farming no matter the cost (players leaving due to poor performances and constant 1-2k pings as multiple 24men DC groups roll around the Chalman mine). Keep doing your thing guys and then wonder why this game won't even make it to The Dark Brotherhood DLC. Disgusting.

Moglijuana

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Shame has been brought to the stam sorc - give the crown to Lord FENGRUSH.

lol. Time to re roll a Magicka DK @FENGRUSH


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FENGRUSH

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Shame has been brought to the stam sorc - give the crown to Lord FENGRUSH.

If Lord FENGRUSH was emperor peace could finally be achieved in Cyro and there would be no pvp trash talk when all foreign rulers submit to His Lordship. He is the last hope.


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