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Nightblades
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Ok. You can go on believing that. However many others believe that Magicka Sorc is one of the few favorable matchups for a Magicka DK. Everyone can plainly see this is simply about your sense that somehow Nightblades should be punished and made to suffer. That's not balance, it's not diversity. It's childish and shallow.
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »(Also how dare you say I don't pvp after saying that mag dk is pretty hard foil vs a mag sorc haha)
They didn't say that I did. Seems like you are so blinded by your haterd of Nightblades you can't even keep straight who you are talking to...1 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Ok. You can go on believing that. However many others believe that Magicka Sorc is one of the few favorable matchups for a Magicka DK. Everyone can plainly see this is simply about your sense that somehow Nightblades should be punished and made to suffer. That's not balance, it's not diversity. It's childish and shallow.
What many believe doesn't matter. What matters are duels and tournaments. Ofc bad players think that wings = rip sorc but thing is in this matchup the mag dk doesn't have enought burst to take down a magicka sorc.0 -
Necronhex✭✭✭Yup NB best class hands down!Necron Hex
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Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭Magika dk can reflect back most of what sorc puts out if you can't beat a sorc with magika DK QQ permanently2 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭Decayed_Inside wrote: »Magika dk can reflect back most of what sorc puts out if you can't beat a sorc with magika DK QQ permanently
@dday3six See what I mean? Just in point haha.0 -
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✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.
It means a huge nerf, not some slight adjusments. I do pvp, a lot, on the shittiest class/build in the game.
Can you answer my question? Why are the vast majority of players in pvp Nightblades?
So you think that a huge nerf will bring this class into line with other classes? And not do what has notoriously happened when the nerf hammer fell? You cant have it both ways. You cant demand NBs be 'nerfed into the ground' and then say that you want them to be on par with the other classes. I dont know if english is your second language. But nerfed into the ground has different meaning than what youre using it for.
The class isnt OP. It needs adjustments but nothing to the extreme of 'nerfing it into the ground'. The class has finally come into its own after the mess it was in during the Launch of the game. It actually behaves the way the NB class is supposed to behave. A Bursty/High DPS class.
The shittiest class.......What does that even mean? Templars? Stam Sorcs? Sorry but theres so many differing opinions about what is the worst class in this game that youre going to have to be a little more clear on that one.
What does popularity have to do anything? Does popularity provide statistics on anything worthwhile when trying to figure out what is broken or working better than intended? Will the Devs care about the number of NBs out there when they decide to tweak them? This isnt high school where its 'cool' to be the edgy outcast while hating on all those mindless sheeple jocks. The NBs provide a playstyle thats always been a very popular choice among players. It doesnt mean theyre OP. Just that the playstyle has a more popular following.
If you could actually provide evidence of how NBs are OP rather than relying on some anecdotal observations of the number of NBs in Cyrodiil. Maybe people would take this farce seriously.
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RizaHawkeye✭✭✭✭... My question to you Zenimax regarding the design of Nightblades and the other 3 classes is, were you high?
Discuss.
Nothing says "I had a bad day in PvP" louder than a comment like that.
Really though, @Alucardo, I'm not smiling at you but with you. Take all of that and now imagine WANTING to play a templar. See, you almost laugh just thinking about it.
Edited by RizaHawkeye on January 17, 2016 5:19AMWar does not determine who is right - only who is left.
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Learn to play, or resign to become one of pieces that is meant to be sacrificed.
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Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Decayed_Inside wrote: »Magika dk can reflect back most of what sorc puts out if you can't beat a sorc with magika DK QQ permanently
@dday3six See what I mean? Just in point haha.
Maybe your dk doesn't have the ability to get the job done but honestly i'm not surprised. The way you cry here it's obvious you're bad3 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.
It means a huge nerf, not some slight adjusments. I do pvp, a lot, on the shittiest class/build in the game.
Can you answer my question? Why are the vast majority of players in pvp Nightblades?
So you think that a huge nerf will bring this class into line with other classes? And not do what has notoriously happened when the nerf hammer fell? You cant have it both ways. You cant demand NBs be 'nerfed into the ground' and then say that you want them to be on par with the other classes. I dont know if english is your second language. But nerfed into the ground has different meaning than what youre using it for.
The class isnt OP. It needs adjustments but nothing to the extreme of 'nerfing it into the ground'. The class has finally come into its own after the mess it was in during the Launch of the game. It actually behaves the way the NB class is supposed to behave. A Bursty/High DPS class.
The shittiest class.......What does that even mean? Templars? Stam Sorcs? Sorry but theres so many differing opinions about what is the worst class in this game that youre going to have to be a little more clear on that one.
What does popularity have to do anything? Does popularity provide statistics on anything worthwhile when trying to figure out what is broken or working better than intended? Will the Devs care about the number of NBs out there when they decide to tweak them? This isnt high school where its 'cool' to be the edgy outcast while hating on all those mindless sheeple jocks. The NBs provide a playstyle thats always been a very popular choice among players. It doesnt mean theyre OP. Just that the playstyle has a more popular following.
If you could actually provide evidence of how NBs are OP rather than relying on some anecdotal observations of the number of NBs in Cyrodiil. Maybe people would take this farce seriously.
Fail (me) Don't really know what to wven say anymore just think whatever you want, nbs are op.Edited by SemiD4rkness on January 17, 2016 5:35AM1 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.
It means a huge nerf, not some slight adjusments. I do pvp, a lot, on the shittiest class/build in the game.
Can you answer my question? Why are the vast majority of players in pvp Nightblades?
So you think that a huge nerf will bring this class into line with other classes? And not do what has notoriously happened when the nerf hammer fell? You cant have it both ways. You cant demand NBs be 'nerfed into the ground' and then say that you want them to be on par with the other classes. I dont know if english is your second language. But nerfed into the ground has different meaning than what youre using it for.
The class isnt OP. It needs adjustments but nothing to the extreme of 'nerfing it into the ground'. The class has finally come into its own after the mess it was in during the Launch of the game. It actually behaves the way the NB class is supposed to behave. A Bursty/High DPS class.
The shittiest class.......What does that even mean? Templars? Stam Sorcs? Sorry but theres so many differing opinions about what is the worst class in this game that youre going to have to be a little more clear on that one.
What does popularity have to do anything? Does popularity provide statistics on anything worthwhile when trying to figure out what is broken or working better than intended? Will the Devs care about the number of NBs out there when they decide to tweak them? This isnt high school where its 'cool' to be the edgy outcast while hating on all those mindless sheeple jocks. The NBs provide a playstyle thats always been a very popular choice among players. It doesnt mean theyre OP. Just that the playstyle has a more popular following.
If you could actually provide evidence of how NBs are OP rather than relying on some anecdotal observations of the number of NBs in Cyrodiil. Maybe people would take this farce seriously.
English is my third language son. Ive said it many times, you're on denial and you show it every post you make. First you deny the fact thag NBs are the most played class by far (in pvp) now when you rethink about it and realise that it's actually true ypu say that popular does not equal Overpowered. Get your facts right lol
Yeah, you're confused again. You're thinking this person is saying things I said....1 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.
It means a huge nerf, not some slight adjusments. I do pvp, a lot, on the shittiest class/build in the game.
Can you answer my question? Why are the vast majority of players in pvp Nightblades?
So you think that a huge nerf will bring this class into line with other classes? And not do what has notoriously happened when the nerf hammer fell? You cant have it both ways. You cant demand NBs be 'nerfed into the ground' and then say that you want them to be on par with the other classes. I dont know if english is your second language. But nerfed into the ground has different meaning than what youre using it for.
The class isnt OP. It needs adjustments but nothing to the extreme of 'nerfing it into the ground'. The class has finally come into its own after the mess it was in during the Launch of the game. It actually behaves the way the NB class is supposed to behave. A Bursty/High DPS class.
The shittiest class.......What does that even mean? Templars? Stam Sorcs? Sorry but theres so many differing opinions about what is the worst class in this game that youre going to have to be a little more clear on that one.
What does popularity have to do anything? Does popularity provide statistics on anything worthwhile when trying to figure out what is broken or working better than intended? Will the Devs care about the number of NBs out there when they decide to tweak them? This isnt high school where its 'cool' to be the edgy outcast while hating on all those mindless sheeple jocks. The NBs provide a playstyle thats always been a very popular choice among players. It doesnt mean theyre OP. Just that the playstyle has a more popular following.
If you could actually provide evidence of how NBs are OP rather than relying on some anecdotal observations of the number of NBs in Cyrodiil. Maybe people would take this farce seriously.
English is my third language son. Ive said it many times, you're on denial and you show it every post you make. First you deny the fact thag NBs are the most played class by far (in pvp) now when you rethink about it and realise that it's actually true ypu say that popular does not equal Overpowered. Get your facts right lol
Well that would explain some things. Im not your son, so you might want to tone it down a bit. The only person here in denial is the one that cant come up with a better argument beyond 'Your on denial NBs need to be nerfed into ground'.
I've never denied the popularity of NBs. Only the assertion that theyre OP. I cant say how many NBs are out there, and neither can you. You cant even build an argument that supports your claim that its popularity has anything to do with your assertion that its OP.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax1 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.
It means a huge nerf, not some slight adjusments. I do pvp, a lot, on the shittiest class/build in the game.
Can you answer my question? Why are the vast majority of players in pvp Nightblades?
So you think that a huge nerf will bring this class into line with other classes? And not do what has notoriously happened when the nerf hammer fell? You cant have it both ways. You cant demand NBs be 'nerfed into the ground' and then say that you want them to be on par with the other classes. I dont know if english is your second language. But nerfed into the ground has different meaning than what youre using it for.
The class isnt OP. It needs adjustments but nothing to the extreme of 'nerfing it into the ground'. The class has finally come into its own after the mess it was in during the Launch of the game. It actually behaves the way the NB class is supposed to behave. A Bursty/High DPS class.
The shittiest class.......What does that even mean? Templars? Stam Sorcs? Sorry but theres so many differing opinions about what is the worst class in this game that youre going to have to be a little more clear on that one.
What does popularity have to do anything? Does popularity provide statistics on anything worthwhile when trying to figure out what is broken or working better than intended? Will the Devs care about the number of NBs out there when they decide to tweak them? This isnt high school where its 'cool' to be the edgy outcast while hating on all those mindless sheeple jocks. The NBs provide a playstyle thats always been a very popular choice among players. It doesnt mean theyre OP. Just that the playstyle has a more popular following.
If you could actually provide evidence of how NBs are OP rather than relying on some anecdotal observations of the number of NBs in Cyrodiil. Maybe people would take this farce seriously.
English is my third language son. Ive said it many times, you're on denial and you show it every post you make. First you deny the fact thag NBs are the most played class by far (in pvp) now when you rethink about it and realise that it's actually true ypu say that popular does not equal Overpowered. Get your facts right lol
Yeah, you're confused again. You're thinking this person is saying things I said....
Oh well im super confused because of 2 threads and that .... haha my bad. Still nerf nbs.0 -
DAOC redux. Flavor of the month, etc blah blah. Leave it it as is, everyone then rolls that build. Devs get bored nerfs/ changes are made, new fotm incoming. Balance will always be an issue. New overpowered builds creates new chars to work on....etc.
WB spam and the nonstop cloak, if ya aint a 2hd or nb, why even play(Until Next big Patch). Is one thing to have an OP build that people use, is another issue when everything else feels useless to play. Of course everyone is gonna play EZmode. Tis internet gaming! Not asking for nerf but at least give other playstyles/classes something counter it. And B4 ya losers say L2P I played NB when DK"S were unbeatable and cloak was 2 secs to find a tree or rock!.Hence my point. I have yet to see since release where all 4 classes and any weap builds chosen have a decent balance and people play what they prefer, Never gonna happen I know, Just Like DAOC, If ya did not have the fotm geared, skip pvp, then go farm PVE, funny how history repeats 15 yrs later lol.0 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.
It means a huge nerf, not some slight adjusments. I do pvp, a lot, on the shittiest class/build in the game.
Can you answer my question? Why are the vast majority of players in pvp Nightblades?
So you think that a huge nerf will bring this class into line with other classes? And not do what has notoriously happened when the nerf hammer fell? You cant have it both ways. You cant demand NBs be 'nerfed into the ground' and then say that you want them to be on par with the other classes. I dont know if english is your second language. But nerfed into the ground has different meaning than what youre using it for.
The class isnt OP. It needs adjustments but nothing to the extreme of 'nerfing it into the ground'. The class has finally come into its own after the mess it was in during the Launch of the game. It actually behaves the way the NB class is supposed to behave. A Bursty/High DPS class.
The shittiest class.......What does that even mean? Templars? Stam Sorcs? Sorry but theres so many differing opinions about what is the worst class in this game that youre going to have to be a little more clear on that one.
What does popularity have to do anything? Does popularity provide statistics on anything worthwhile when trying to figure out what is broken or working better than intended? Will the Devs care about the number of NBs out there when they decide to tweak them? This isnt high school where its 'cool' to be the edgy outcast while hating on all those mindless sheeple jocks. The NBs provide a playstyle thats always been a very popular choice among players. It doesnt mean theyre OP. Just that the playstyle has a more popular following.
If you could actually provide evidence of how NBs are OP rather than relying on some anecdotal observations of the number of NBs in Cyrodiil. Maybe people would take this farce seriously.
English is my third language son. Ive said it many times, you're on denial and you show it every post you make. First you deny the fact thag NBs are the most played class by far (in pvp) now when you rethink about it and realise that it's actually true ypu say that popular does not equal Overpowered. Get your facts right lol
Well that would explain some things. Im not your son, so you might want to tone it down a bit. The only person here in denial is the one that cant come up with a better argument beyond 'Your on denial NBs need to be nerfed into ground'.
I've never denied the popularity of NBs. Only the assertion that theyre OP. I cant say how many NBs are out there, and neither can you. You cant even build an argument that supports your claim that its popularity has anything to do with your assertion that its OP.
This is kinda awkward, but ... im actually your father. Nah messing around my answer was totally not ment for you so I wont read your aswer because it wont make any sense. My bad.0 -
teladoy✭✭✭✭✭Nightblades = assassins
DK = sustain
Sorcerer = who knows.
Templars = good in everything a little bit. Damage, tank. Very good as healers.
Argonians best swimming in all *** eso. Deal with that nightblade!! HA HA!1 -
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✭✭It's funny how other class players rank on NBs.Why dont they just roll a new NB? I mean,either that or,..learn to outdo the NB players.Dont demand that they dumb down one class just because you dont like it causing you problems. LEARN to get around the NBs strengths.It's not impossible,ya know.SemiD4rkness wrote: »Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Really? Well,maybe that NB player that is *** good as you are used their classes skills the best way they could to make sure they could stay alive and win. Perhaps you might do the same with the class you chose since it wasnt a NB.
Or,...play a NB yourself?
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DynastyIXII✭✭✭My main is a magicka nb, I also have a magicka sorc and magicka templar. Currently working on a magicka DK, I don't think NBs are OP, they are just the most balanced class. I don't wish for them to be nerfed but the Templars and DKs can use some tweaks, maybe more then a few tweaks. But even as a magicka dk, I can handle good night blades.PS4 NA2 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's funny how other class players rank on NBs.Why dont they just roll a new NB? I mean,either that or,..learn to outdo the NB players.Dont demand that they dumb down one class just because you dont like it causing you problems. LEARN to get around the NBs strengths.It's not impossible,ya know.SemiD4rkness wrote: »Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Really? Well,maybe that NB player that is *** good as you are used their classes skills the best way they could to make sure they could stay alive and win. Perhaps you might do the same with the class you chose since it wasnt a NB.
Or,...play a NB yourself?
:}
Why was my word "as" taken out??0 -
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✭- Self empowering and easily the best gap closer in the game
- High damaging insta-cast spammable DD ability with multiple effects
- Great passives
- Ability to cloak at will, which is extremely powerful, and stupid in an MMO
- Ability to heal while cloaked
- Run faster while stealthed
- Their heal that damages while restoring health doesn't rely on crits which won't work against shields (I feel you stam sorcs)
- Instantly purge off DoTs by going invisible at the same time. Sorry DKs.
- Cheap ultimate that generates more ultimate, adds major defile, does high damage, is spammable and increases your damage against a target... for 50 ultimate
My question to you Zenimax regarding the design of Nightblades and the other 3 classes is, were you high?
Discuss.
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✭✭✭✭DynastyIXII wrote: »My main is a magicka nb, I also have a magicka sorc and magicka templar. Currently working on a magicka DK, I don't think NBs are OP, they are just the most balanced class. I don't wish for them to be nerfed but the Templars and DKs can use some tweaks, maybe more then a few tweaks. But even as a magicka dk, I can handle good night blades.
Thats all that really needs to be done. The Devs need to look at the other classes and see what they can buff and tweak to bring them in line with the NBs. Templars in general and Stam Sorcs needing the most work.
All this QQ about OP classes and demanding nerfs for classes that are doing well is just absurd and I hope ZOS has learned not to put much stock in this type of feedback. The bi-polar class and general game balance changes arent good for a game.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax2 -
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✭✭✭- Self empowering and easily the best gap closer in the game
- High damaging insta-cast spammable DD ability with multiple effects
- Great passives
- Ability to cloak at will, which is extremely powerful, and stupid in an MMO
- Ability to heal while cloaked
- Run faster while stealthed
- Their heal that damages while restoring health doesn't rely on crits which won't work against shields (I feel you stam sorcs)
- Instantly purge off DoTs by going invisible at the same time. Sorry DKs.
- Cheap ultimate that generates more ultimate, adds major defile, does high damage, is spammable and increases your damage against a target... for 50 ultimate
My question to you Zenimax regarding the design of Nightblades and the other 3 classes is, were you high?
Discuss.
The ability to cloak at will i mostly for any rogue type character in an mmo. Although in most mmo's it is not spammable. I don't care much about cloak tbh, it's more the stealth that lets people disappear from sight, even full armies. you can just hide in plain sight.
Ability to heal while cloaked is for stamina NB's. A magicka goes out of stealth when trying to heal or cast any empowerment spell.
run faster when stealhed is only for magicka if he uses concealed weapon. Also this is not a big bonus. The speed buff mostly comes for being a vampire or wearing nights silence armor. Which any class has access to.
There are so many counters to cloak/stealth. I am not even going to discuss this part. If cloak was to be removed or nerfed, i think magicka NB will die out for most part. Unless they find a way to balance it out for LA wearers. But it's Zos, so i doubt it.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."1 -
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Are you that naive or didn't bother reading the comments I made to other people? This is not a nerf post by any means. Nightblades are the most well-designed class in this game. I just want others to be brought up to speed.Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »All this QQ about OP classes and demanding nerfs for classes that are doing well is just absurd and I hope ZOS has learned not to put much stock in this type of feedback. The bi-polar class and general game balance changes arent good for a game.
Don't worry, I don't want your precious nightblade nerfed. [snip] chill out.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_Alex on January 17, 2016 4:29PM2 -
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✭✭✭I would love to know how many people who are complaining about NBs are playing a magicka sorc. Would be really fun to watch if all the NB OP QQers would actually roll a NB and show their mad skillZ on dat OP class on twitch
If you nerf NB you will see that nothing will change. All people who die to my NB will still get rekt by my werewolf and DK. All people who defeat my NB will be fine against my DK and WW. Just play the game and get better on your class. That's the best nerf for other classes.
To all people who create threads or demand nerfs for other classes every day over and over and over and over again: Please leave your computer, go outside and think about how stupid it is to waste your time by whining and demanding for ESO class nerfs which will probably never come anyway.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.6 -
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✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I would love to know how many people who are complaining about NBs are playing a magicka sorc. Would be really fun to watch if all the NB OP QQers would actually roll a NB and show their mad skillZ on dat OP class on twitch
If you nerf NB you will see that nothing will change. All people who die to my NB will still get rekt by my werewolf and DK. All people who defeat my NB will be fine against my DK and WW. Just play the game and get better on your class. That's the best nerf for other classes.
To all people who create threads or demand nerfs for other classes every day over and over and over and over again: Please leave your computer, go outside and think about how stupid it is to waste your time by whining and demanding for ESO class nerfs which will probably never come anyway.
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✭✭✭✭✭I was tooling around Cyrodiil on one of my alts today. Yes, there are a lot of Nightblades there. But you know what? I also killed a lot of Nightblades. More so than any other class. Some of the most trouble I had were actually against sorcs and DKs (and yes, I was even whipped to death by magicka DKs a couple of times).
Because Nightblades are perceived as the "easy mode" class for PvP, a lot of inexperienced PvP players roll Nightblades. Well, they are a good class (my main is one, after all), but they aren't so OP that it can overshadow player skill. And as someone who's played one enough to know their weaknesses, Nightblades are pretty easy to kill if you know how.Edited by code65536 on January 17, 2016 10:16AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
Ooooh dang, busted! Nice.3 -
Grendel_at_ESO✭✭✭Admittedly I have very limited experience playing the game let alone PvP(been playing a couple months) but I've found the NB to be by far the easiest class to play in PvP(have not tried a sorc yet), probably because of the high burst dps they are capable of, most of the time people seem to be able to easily out heal my DK or Templar. That's probably why there are so many of them. To my DAOC Nightshade/Shadowblade trained mind they do seem a bit ridiculous, a class that has the ability to spam alpha strikes without any of the expected drawbacks(like if you fail you're screwed).0
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, lets just nerf another class to the ground instead of balancing pvp.
Exploits have to be fixed of course... And yeah, that counts stamina dk exploits as well.
But I dont wanna see any more nerfs. Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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