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Nightblades
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- Self empowering and easily the best gap closer in the game
- High damaging insta-cast spammable DD ability with multiple effects
- Great passives
- Ability to cloak at will, which is extremely powerful, and stupid in an MMO
- Ability to heal while cloaked
- Run faster while stealthed
- Their heal that damages while restoring health doesn't rely on crits which won't work against shields (I feel you stam sorcs)
- Instantly purge off DoTs by going invisible at the same time. Sorry DKs.
- Cheap ultimate that generates more ultimate, adds major defile, does high damage, is spammable and increases your damage against a target... for 50 ultimate
My question to you Zenimax regarding the design of Nightblades and the other 3 classes is, were you high?
Discuss.
- High damaging insta-cast spammable DD ability with multiple effects
- Great passives
- Ability to cloak at will, which is extremely powerful, and stupid in an MMO
- Ability to heal while cloaked
- Run faster while stealthed
- Their heal that damages while restoring health doesn't rely on crits which won't work against shields (I feel you stam sorcs)
- Instantly purge off DoTs by going invisible at the same time. Sorry DKs.
- Cheap ultimate that generates more ultimate, adds major defile, does high damage, is spammable and increases your damage against a target... for 50 ultimate
My question to you Zenimax regarding the design of Nightblades and the other 3 classes is, were you high?
Discuss.
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Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭Stop QQing and start practicing. You don't see the NB who beat you here moaningEdited by Decayed_Inside on January 17, 2016 2:19AM3 -
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I wouldn't moan either if my stam sorc had the utilities a nb doesDecayed_Inside wrote: »You don't see the NB who beat you here moaning
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I wouldn't moan either if my stam sorc had the utilities a nb doesDecayed_Inside wrote: »You don't see the NB who beat you here moaning
There's your first mistake. You roll a stam sorc and expect to have utility. Can't you power surge and spin to win like everyone else?Edited by Decayed_Inside on January 17, 2016 2:22AM1 -
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That's the problem. Everyone should.Decayed_Inside wrote: »There's your first mistake. You roll a stam sorc and expect to have utility.
I don't want you to think this is a nerf Nightblade post, or Nightblades are OP. They are actually the most well designed class in ESO. The other ones just aren't, which is what causes the imbalance.
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Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭I'm all for buffing the other classes to be more useful but that's not what will happen. They will just nerf NB into uslessness0
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joleda4ub17_ESO✭✭✭I know this affects all classes, but ... I believe the number of passives is one of the biggest reasons for class imbalance. There are too many passives and too many ways to add % increases. Other than armor, a passive should only work if an active skill is on the current action bar. The Champion System adds enough passives by itself.1 -
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✭✭Knowing ZOS they'll go the DK route lol.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
XBL Gamer Tag - Maxwell
XB1 Maxwell Crystal - NA DC CP 800+ Redguard Stamina DK
XB1 Max Crystal - NA DC CP 800+ Brenton Magicka DK
PC Maxwell-Crystal - NA DC - CP 200+ Brenton Magicka DK 「Retired」Band Camp statements: To state "But this one time I saw X doing X... so that justifies X" Refers to the Band camp statement.
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✭Is that a serious question?
You have any idea how strong a properly built and played S&B/2H stamina DK is right now? Stamina DKs have all the tools needed to deal with NBs. High Burst with Light Attack - Ransack/Heroic Slash - Bash combos. Ransack does basically the same thing has Surprise Attack, for less cost. Heroic Slash builds ultimate. Reverberating Bash adds Major Defile. Volatile Armor's AOE will often pull NB's out of Cloak.
Yes NB needs to have a few things addressed. Cloak could probably use the same treatment as Bolt Escape. Then Ambush or any other skills for that matter shouldn't empower themselves self. However acting as if they are the be all, end all class is getting pretty old.
High phyiscal damage burst is being answered in the next update with a phyiscal resistence CP star. Which should address the last elements of quick burst downs from Stamina builds.
To individually address your points:
Soul Harvest only generates ulimate from kills. It's not high damage, it's magic damage which is easier to mitigate, and doesn't scale with Mighty. It's mainly used for Major Defile and the damage increase to target.
Strife and it's morphs heal by 25% of the damage done. You know that is cut by not only the 50% damage reduction, but also the 50% healing reduction. You're lucky to get 1k out of it every 2 seconds in PVP.
Cloak is the main defensive skill of NB's, it's their version of a class shield, and part of what defines the Nightblade as a class. Saying it's stupid for an MMO isn't making an argument.
Nightblades only run faster in stealth with the Concealed Weapon Morph of Veiled Strike. It's not something they get by default.
Great Passives is vague. Frankly every class has examples of great passives.
Most of what you've stated is misrepresenting the facts to further your case. It's not helping. You want to be taken seriously? Try making a case that isn't full of conjecture and personal bias.16 -
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✭✭Is that a serious question?
You have any idea how strong a properly built and played S&B/2H stamina DK is right now?
THIS!!! I don't get why no one else sees this!!!
But Alucardo, I agree, I was thinking the same earlier. Luckily, due to the large amount of NBs floating around, I have learned how to spank them all day!3 -
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... To be honest, tho', there's quite a chance he did come here to moan, if he was a vampire.Decayed_Inside wrote: »Stop QQing and start practicing. You don't see the NB who beat you here moaning... Mai cave. >:32 -
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- Always an extra 5200 amour
- Max magicka passive
- Max hp passive
- 15% regen to hp/stam/magicks (more than vamps who have to deal with camo, more dmg and dawnbreaker)
- Extra crit %
- wpn/spell dmg when stealthed
- 12 ult for using a pot and another ult passive
- All 3 ults are very good
PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭✭✭✭- Self empowering and easily the best gap closer in the game
- High damaging insta-cast spammable DD ability with multiple effects
- Great passives
- Ability to cloak at will, which is extremely powerful, and stupid in an MMO
- Ability to heal while cloaked
- Run faster while stealthed
- Their heal that damages while restoring health doesn't rely on crits which won't work against shields (I feel you stam sorcs)
- Instantly purge off DoTs by going invisible at the same time. Sorry DKs.
- Cheap ultimate that generates more ultimate, adds major defile, does high damage, is spammable and increases your damage against a target... for 50 ultimate
My question to you Zenimax regarding the design of Nightblades and the other 3 classes is, were you high?
Discuss.
Discuss what? Im confused if we're discussing the Nightblade class that youve decided to champion a nerf for or that Zenimax employees partakes in illegal drug use.
Could you clarify?Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax5 -
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Nobody else has had trouble committing to the discussion. Has all that cloaking taken its toll on your ability to think?Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Discuss what? Im confused if we're discussing the Nightblade class that youve decided to champion a nerf for or that Zenimax employees partakes in illegal drug use.
Could you clarify?
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Nobody else has had trouble committing to the discussion. Has all that cloaking taken its toll on your ability to think?Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Discuss what? Im confused if we're discussing the Nightblade class that youve decided to champion a nerf for or that Zenimax employees partakes in illegal drug use.
Could you clarify?
No, but Im beginning to think your arrogance has cost you one too many battles in Cyrodiil. Maybe instead of attacking a class because you cant get a grip on countering them. You should take a harder look at your lack of skill as a PvP player. Im sure your Guildmates and friends would appreciate not having to carry you through Chalmen for the 1,000th time.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax8 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
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JaJaLuka✭✭✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »Knowing ZOS they'll go the DK route lol.
Please ffs no ZoSKrojick, DC Sorc PC NA
Milámber, EP Sorc PC NA
Brunack, EP DK PC NA
General Mark Shephard, EP Temp PC NA (Worst temp NA XD )
Krojick Nightblade, DC NB PC NA
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Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭When my NB gets nerfed i swear to god i'm gonna make you guys hate another class. Maybe cry for buffs to fix your broken classes no one complained about NB before everything else got nerfed. NB excels in PVP and that's pretty much where the story ends. You don't see many stamblade in PVE end game. I say NB needs a buff to be able to compete in PVE as well6
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✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
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SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.Edited by SemiD4rkness on January 17, 2016 4:24AM2 -
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✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?10 -
Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭Is that a serious question?
You have any idea how strong a properly built and played S&B/2H stamina DK is right now? Stamina DKs have all the tools needed to deal with NBs. High Burst with Light Attack - Ransack/Heroic Slash - Bash combos. Ransack does basically the same thing has Surprise Attack, for less cost. Heroic Slash builds ultimate. Reverberating Bash adds Major Defile. Volatile Armor's AOE will often pull NB's out of Cloak.
Yes NB needs to have a few things addressed. Cloak could probably use the same treatment as Bolt Escape. Then Ambush or any other skills for that matter shouldn't empower themselves self. However acting as if they are the be all, end all class is getting pretty old.
High phyiscal damage burst is being answered in the next update with a phyiscal resistence CP star. Which should address the last elements of quick burst downs from Stamina builds.
To individually address your points:
Soul Harvest only generates ulimate from kills. It's not high damage, it's magic damage which is easier to mitigate, and doesn't scale with Mighty. It's mainly used for Major Defile and the damage increase to target.
Strife and it's morphs heal by 25% of the damage done. You know that is cut by not only the 50% damage reduction, but also the 50% healing reduction. You're lucky to get 1k out of it every 2 seconds in PVP.
Cloak is the main defensive skill of NB's, it's their version of a class shield, and part of what defines the Nightblade as a class. Saying it's stupid for an MMO isn't making an argument.
Nightblades only run faster in stealth with the Concealed Weapon Morph of Veiled Strike. It's not something they get by default.
Great Passives is vague. Frankly every class has examples of great passives.
Most of what you've stated is misrepresenting the facts to further your case. It's not helping. You want to be taken seriously? Try making a case that isn't full of conjecture and personal bias.
Right. On. Point.
And I only see that OP plays 1 type of class throughout his tenure in this game. So it is apparent that biased opinion is present.
People need to play all classes to understand how things work and not just QQ posting every single thing that annoys them just because they got steam rolled or maybe they want the same thing as another class do.
Point is, every class has their specific skill set that defines them. It's just going to be bland if all classes have similar skills.
That being said, I shall make a Sorc lol.The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare-
EP CP810 Nightblade
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Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭I think some people just have serious classism issues. I play all 4 classes and NB is fine. Templar needs some love. DK needs a tweek because it's a strong class but a lot of the DOT are pointless everyone just counters it.3
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SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.1 -
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✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.3 -
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SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.0 -
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✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax3 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »NBs are OP and I hope they get nerfed to the ground. I want to see more diversity in Cyrodiil/IC. If I die to a 10 man group I just dont want my death recap to be ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush ambush every time.
Yes any class can kill a Nightblade, the problem is a problem when you meet someone as good as you are.
Also they make outnumbered fights impossible to win. When I fight 2 oponnents now I try to stay close to both of them because gap closers are so broken right now, doing that vs nightblade wont work because they're special due to no fkin reason and they don't need a minimum cast range so they can "gapclose" when there's no gap to close. Also no matter how good you are at surviving and using the enviroment in your favor they will be right in your face because they have the only gapcloser that does not give a damn about terrain. The class is cool, it sinergyses amazing with all of it's skills/passives but they're too strong for ESO. They belong to another game and I wont fully enjoy ESO until the class is DESTROYED.
Those are my 2 cents.
You want diversity, yet you want a class nerfed into the ground? That sounds more like a personal vendetta than an actual desire for diversity.
Just my 2 cents.
Tell me, Nightblade player, what's the reason behind the fact that about half the players you meet in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? Because they're cool? No, because they're OP.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241566/l2p-or-roll-a-nightblade-pvp#latest
In this thread, comment #45: You claim to beat some 70% of the Nightblades you face. Mostly because they are bad players. Tell me how OP can a class be if it's not able to carry bads to victory?
This is a complex game you should know that. Give a bad player a magicka sorc and a good player a magicka dk the good player is gonna destroy the bad one. Im done with you, you're on denial but whatever you will se im right when NBs get nerfed to the ground.
You should know that Magicka DK is a pretty hard foil for Magicka Sorc, so what are you really saying...
If it helps you sleep at night, and comforts you from Nightblade nightmares, keep telling yourself they'll be nerfed into the ground.
Discussion ended, you must be new to the game or play with really bad people. Equally skilled players theres no way in hel a magicka DK have a slight chance vs a mag sorc.
And yes they'll get nerfed to the ground which means they'll be as effective as a templar or mag dk. I want by no means for them to be weaker than the other classes. That would be silly.
Then what does 'nerfed into the ground' mean in that head of yours?
Im starting to think you dont even PvP considering your attitude and view of things.
It means a huge nerf, not some slight adjusments. I do pvp, a lot, on the shittiest class/build in the game.
Can you answer my question? Why are the vast majority of players in pvp Nightblades?
(Also how dare you say I don't pvp after saying that mag dk is pretty hard foil vs a mag sorc haha)Edited by SemiD4rkness on January 17, 2016 5:02AM0