Guild of Shadows Retiring from Active Competition

FENGRUSH

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

As soon as Lord FENGRUSH entered a larger scale group to strike back at the ball groups

When FENGRUSH fights any organized group it's a "ball group". When FENGRUSH joins the damn zerg it's a "larger scale group."

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Long live the FENGRUSH ball group!

I just meant group size - there is no hiding whats going on. FENGRUSH is here to defeat Crownzergs before they crash all of the servers - for the people.

Plus - get to show the world what were talking about when we talk about large scale PVP on twitch - in good quality. Pretty tough to do!

Cut a video yesterday that shows Lord FENGRUSH sparing Ezareth only to be struck in the back by him - the disrespect is unfathomable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU9F4_erdeM

heystreethawk

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

As soon as Lord FENGRUSH entered a larger scale group to strike back at the ball groups

When FENGRUSH fights any organized group it's a "ball group". When FENGRUSH joins the damn zerg it's a "larger scale group."

Joins = crit rushes/stampedes

Ezareth

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

As soon as Lord FENGRUSH entered a larger scale group to strike back at the ball groups

When FENGRUSH fights any organized group it's a "ball group". When FENGRUSH joins the damn zerg it's a "larger scale group."

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Long live the FENGRUSH ball group!

I just meant group size - there is no hiding whats going on. FENGRUSH is here to defeat Crownzergs before they crash all of the servers - for the people.

Plus - get to show the world what were talking about when we talk about large scale PVP on twitch - in good quality. Pretty tough to do!

Cut a video yesterday that shows Lord FENGRUSH sparing Ezareth only to be struck in the back by him - the disrespect is unfathomable!

I didn't even play yesterday, I was too busy playing Ingress all night, that was 2 or 3 nights ago.

When I see a zerg in my vicinity I start charging up a heavy attack (or let fly overload for them to charge into) as soon as they get in range to open with, it so happens that you are always at the head of the ball groups so you're often hit by me. Several times I've noticed it was you and turned around to try to break off the attack but when a heavy attack is charged there is no way I know of to stop it because it just animation cancels into a medium attack or whatever.

The only time i purposefully have attacked you recently are when I see you winding up wrecking blows on my group (typically only Cinn/Exquisite Bedlam). If you don't want me hitting you all the time quit going out to the forefront it's not intentional. Self-preservation necessities the need for a strong offense which I'm sure FENGRUSH appreciates.

That wasn't even the largest your group was, I saw it at 18-20 around Nikel the other night when I was trying to pick off members of your group.

Turtl3Lov3

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

As soon as Lord FENGRUSH entered a larger scale group to strike back at the ball groups

When FENGRUSH fights any organized group it's a "ball group". When FENGRUSH joins the damn zerg it's a "larger scale group."

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Long live the FENGRUSH ball group!

I just meant group size - there is no hiding whats going on. FENGRUSH is here to defeat Crownzergs before they crash all of the servers - for the people.

Plus - get to show the world what were talking about when we talk about large scale PVP on twitch - in good quality. Pretty tough to do!

Cut a video yesterday that shows Lord FENGRUSH sparing Ezareth only to be struck in the back by him - the disrespect is unfathomable!

FENGRUSH

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

As soon as Lord FENGRUSH entered a larger scale group to strike back at the ball groups

When FENGRUSH fights any organized group it's a "ball group". When FENGRUSH joins the damn zerg it's a "larger scale group."

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Long live the FENGRUSH ball group!

I just meant group size - there is no hiding whats going on. FENGRUSH is here to defeat Crownzergs before they crash all of the servers - for the people.

Plus - get to show the world what were talking about when we talk about large scale PVP on twitch - in good quality. Pretty tough to do!

Cut a video yesterday that shows Lord FENGRUSH sparing Ezareth only to be struck in the back by him - the disrespect is unfathomable!

I didn't even play yesterday, I was too busy playing Ingress all night, that was 2 or 3 nights ago.

When I see a zerg in my vicinity I start charging up a heavy attack (or let fly overload for them to charge into) as soon as they get in range to open with, it so happens that you are always at the head of the ball groups so you're often hit by me. Several times I've noticed it was you and turned around to try to break off the attack but when a heavy attack is charged there is no way I know of to stop it because it just animation cancels into a medium attack or whatever.

The only time i purposefully have attacked you recently are when I see you winding up wrecking blows on my group (typically only Cinn/Exquisite Bedlam). If you don't want me hitting you all the time quit going out to the forefront it's not intentional. Self-preservation necessities the need for a strong offense which I'm sure FENGRUSH appreciates.

That wasn't even the largest your group was, I saw it at 18-20 around Nikel the other night when I was trying to pick off members of your group.

This is what DC is up against out there - in case youre wondering about the size of stuff. And I know you werent there last night - I cant pvp and make videos in the same day, I just got around to it after work damnit!

This was a pretty enjoyable to fight - a good watch too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI5x_Qy2uds

OdinForge

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

As soon as Lord FENGRUSH entered a larger scale group to strike back at the ball groups

When FENGRUSH fights any organized group it's a "ball group". When FENGRUSH joins the damn zerg it's a "larger scale group."

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Long live the FENGRUSH ball group!

I just meant group size - there is no hiding whats going on. FENGRUSH is here to defeat Crownzergs before they crash all of the servers - for the people.

Plus - get to show the world what were talking about when we talk about large scale PVP on twitch - in good quality. Pretty tough to do!

Cut a video yesterday that shows Lord FENGRUSH sparing Ezareth only to be struck in the back by him - the disrespect is unfathomable!

I didn't even play yesterday, I was too busy playing Ingress all night, that was 2 or 3 nights ago.

When I see a zerg in my vicinity I start charging up a heavy attack (or let fly overload for them to charge into) as soon as they get in range to open with, it so happens that you are always at the head of the ball groups so you're often hit by me. Several times I've noticed it was you and turned around to try to break off the attack but when a heavy attack is charged there is no way I know of to stop it because it just animation cancels into a medium attack or whatever.

The only time i purposefully have attacked you recently are when I see you winding up wrecking blows on my group (typically only Cinn/Exquisite Bedlam). If you don't want me hitting you all the time quit going out to the forefront it's not intentional. Self-preservation necessities the need for a strong offense which I'm sure FENGRUSH appreciates.

That wasn't even the largest your group was, I saw it at 18-20 around Nikel the other night when I was trying to pick off members of your group.

This is what DC is up against out there - in case youre wondering about the size of stuff. And I know you werent there last night - I cant pvp and make videos in the same day, I just got around to it after work damnit!

This was a pretty enjoyable to fight - a good watch too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI5x_Qy2uds

All I took away from this was, that Erkon brings home chocolate cookies but *** damn is that why he's always streakin?

I kid I kid..

Reverb

It's sad to see another one of the early ESO pvp guilds go. More have left than have risen to prominence to replace them.

A toast to GoS, who popularized "Emp" as a verb.

Galalin

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

As soon as Lord FENGRUSH entered a larger scale group to strike back at the ball groups

When FENGRUSH fights any organized group it's a "ball group". When FENGRUSH joins the damn zerg it's a "larger scale group."

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Long live the FENGRUSH ball group!

I just meant group size - there is no hiding whats going on. FENGRUSH is here to defeat Crownzergs before they crash all of the servers - for the people.

Plus - get to show the world what were talking about when we talk about large scale PVP on twitch - in good quality. Pretty tough to do!

Cut a video yesterday that shows Lord FENGRUSH sparing Ezareth only to be struck in the back by him - the disrespect is unfathomable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU9F4_erdeM

The one thing stood out to me in this was the NB's comment.... "don't make me ambush spam you" @Wrobel when the hell are you going to put a min range on this?

This is the mentality of almost all NB's now... i will just spam ambush if i cant outplay you. GG

DK SCRUB OUT

Satiar

I hope y'all find good homes, or can rebuild together into something fun. From a rival, best of luck,

Psilent

Satiar wrote: »

I hope y'all find good homes, or can rebuild together into something fun. From a rival, best of luck,

Thanks! You might see us tonight, I will be leading a few casual GoS groups, most likely on Azura's Star.

frozywozy

Just throwing this out there. Maybe GoS should take this time off to do some training with more casual guilds and help them get better at the game? Doesn't need leads to actually give advices.

I have personally took Sotp under my wings yesterday. Took 4 of their core members including group leaders and they ran with us for 2-3hours. They said they really enjoyed what they saw and were satisfied of what they learned. I'm going to do the same with BFTP and Pact in the near future.

Rickter

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

frozywozy

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

Ezareth

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

frozywozy

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

Dude, Zazeer and Rylana won't lead anymore, at least for some time.

There are no other experienced leads available. How do you expect a guild to be competitive without someone stepping up to lead? Did you even read the OP?

Ezareth

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

Dude, Zazeer and Rylana won't lead anymore, at least for some time.

There are no other experienced leads available. How do you expect a guild to be competitive without someone stepping up to lead? Did you even read the OP?

Yeah, I read the OP. I know my guild TM rarely has a dedicated leader any more and they steam-roll pugs just fine. You may be surprised what happens when good players are left to think for themselves.....they get better. Not much changes.

I don't think the absence of Rylana or Zazeer is going to significantly impact the effectiveness of GoS (no offense to either of them). Unless you are trying to say that those two players are the only two in the guild worth mention?

FENGRUSH

It sounds like this thread would be more appropriate if it stated GoS is looking for a new leader, apply now!

frozywozy

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

Dude, Zazeer and Rylana won't lead anymore, at least for some time.

There are no other experienced leads available. How do you expect a guild to be competitive without someone stepping up to lead? Did you even read the OP?

Yeah, I read the OP. I know my guild TM rarely has a dedicated leader any more and they steam-roll pugs just fine. You may be surprised what happens when good players are left to think for themselves.....they get better. Not much changes.

I don't think the absence of Rylana or Zazeer is going to significantly impact the effectiveness of GoS (no offense to either of them). Unless you are trying to say that those two players are the only two in the guild worth mention?

So in other words, you qualify "steam-rolling pugs" as a competitive behaviour? loled.

There is no way a group of 12-16 can perform well against other organized groups without someone giving directions. A fight between two groups who know what they're doing require alot of movements and tactics. It's not always about stand in place and kill things. Have you ever run in a large group anyway?

diskiukas

Wasnt GoS started by different people?Dont remember fighting Rylana or Zazeer on old Haderus.

Turtl3Lov3

diskiukas wrote: »

Wasnt GoS started by different people?Dont remember fighting Rylana or Zazeer on old Haderus.

Ezareth

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

Dude, Zazeer and Rylana won't lead anymore, at least for some time.

There are no other experienced leads available. How do you expect a guild to be competitive without someone stepping up to lead? Did you even read the OP?

Yeah, I read the OP. I know my guild TM rarely has a dedicated leader any more and they steam-roll pugs just fine. You may be surprised what happens when good players are left to think for themselves.....they get better. Not much changes.

I don't think the absence of Rylana or Zazeer is going to significantly impact the effectiveness of GoS (no offense to either of them). Unless you are trying to say that those two players are the only two in the guild worth mention?

So in other words, you qualify "steam-rolling pugs" as a competitive behaviour? loled.

There is no way a group of 12-16 can perform well against other organized groups without someone giving directions. A fight between two groups who know what they're doing require alot of movements and tactics. It's not always about stand in place and kill things. Have you ever run in a large group anyway?

Yeah I did my first 6 month stint in the game doing the group thing back when groups weren't mindless balls AoE bombing each other and being decided by who drops which ult at the correct time with one guy dictating every action to the entire group.

What other organized groups that aren't pugs are there? Not too many active PvP guilds worth mentioning out there right now (I could count them on less than one hand) and those ones are the easiest to avoid if you dont want to fight them since they'll be farming AP somewhere. I watched a random AD Zerg run over and wipe Fengrush and Vir Cor's group a few times last night. I guarantee both sides had fun and those AD were *** poor coordinated yet quite effective all things considered.

Does it really matter that the remaining members of GoS probably wont wipe K-hole in a solo even up situation? How many times a night does something like that even happen? 1-2 times tops. Plenty of good action to be had all over a host of campaigns right now for any ball group assembled.

Turtl3Lov3

frozywozy

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

Dude, Zazeer and Rylana won't lead anymore, at least for some time.

There are no other experienced leads available. How do you expect a guild to be competitive without someone stepping up to lead? Did you even read the OP?

Yeah, I read the OP. I know my guild TM rarely has a dedicated leader any more and they steam-roll pugs just fine. You may be surprised what happens when good players are left to think for themselves.....they get better. Not much changes.

I don't think the absence of Rylana or Zazeer is going to significantly impact the effectiveness of GoS (no offense to either of them). Unless you are trying to say that those two players are the only two in the guild worth mention?

So in other words, you qualify "steam-rolling pugs" as a competitive behaviour? loled.

There is no way a group of 12-16 can perform well against other organized groups without someone giving directions. A fight between two groups who know what they're doing require alot of movements and tactics. It's not always about stand in place and kill things. Have you ever run in a large group anyway?

Yeah I did my first 6 month stint in the game doing the group thing back when groups weren't mindless balls AoE bombing each other and being decided by who drops which ult at the correct time with one guy dictating every action to the entire group.

What other organized groups that aren't pugs are there? Not too many active PvP guilds worth mentioning out there right now (I could count them on less than one hand) and those ones are the easiest to avoid if you dont want to fight them since they'll be farming AP somewhere. I watched a random AD Zerg run over and wipe Fengrush and Vir Cor's group a few times last night. I guarantee both sides had fun and those AD were *** poor coordinated yet quite effective all things considered.

Does it really matter that the remaining members of GoS probably wont wipe K-hole in a solo even up situation? How many times a night does something like that even happen? 1-2 times tops. Plenty of good action to be had all over a host of campaigns right now for any ball group assembled.

Ok my main point was to suggest to GoS people to contribute to the EP faction (reffering to Jules's thread) if they wanna help. I don't really care if you think that a competitive guild needs a leader or not to be honest. Or how many organized guilds are still running. There are more than 5 I can count personally. The point was simply to contribute to the health of the faction and help casual guilds get better when facing DC or AD guilds full of people who has been playing since beta.

Publius_Scipio

*Scipio approaches the pulpit*

"I didn't know him well, but I felt that I needed to say something regardless. As far as rabid, maniacal, Australian gamer guild leaders go, Zazebra wasn't such a bad guy. He took a guy like Briizz who spent his life chugging 2 liter bottles of soda and play Mario Kart and gave him a home. He took a guy like Rylana who only ever sees himself as Robin in the equation of Batman & Robin and put a smile on his face in Guild of Sissies. May your soul finds its way to the great fields in the sky. Where you can run around and be at peace with all the other red zebras."

*steps down from the pulpit and walks over to the casket.*
*places an unopened single serving size cup of Greek yogurt and a spoon gently on top of the casket*


April 2014 - January 2016

https://youtu.be/bq8BukMzXJg

vortexman11

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

What you saw was a group of friends running around with no real leader just having fun

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

Ezareth, you know I have nothing against you, but I also know you don't play in large groups. I have no ego to preserve, and I'm hoping no other members of GoS have the need to do so either. When Rylana made this post and when Zazeer made this decision I'm sure it was a simple recognition to the fact that in order to stay competitive with the other "zergball" guilds we'd need leadership, and dedication from our members. Lacking both there was nothing left to do other than make it official.

This post wasn't to say everyone in GoS was quitting all at once or something crazy like that, I think the basis of it was to say we wont be out there taking on guilds like VE, KHole, RAGE, (and I don't honestly know the names of half the guilds now because you're always dissolving and reforming..)

Turtl3Lov3

vortexman11 wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

What you saw was a group of friends running around with no real leader just having fun

Weberda

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

What you saw was a group of friends running around with no real leader just having fun

Enough Horus! Use the written word (and don't tell me it's because your keyboard is broken).

vortexman11

diskiukas wrote: »

Wasnt GoS started by different people?Dont remember fighting Rylana or Zazeer on old Haderus.

If you remember right at the very beggining of the new campaigns, GoS was one of the few EP guilds on Haderus before Sura got throned, then Archeage happened.

Weberda wrote: »

Enough Horus! Use the written word (and don't tell me it's because your keyboard is broken).

^^ I swear you're gonna get yourself banned one of these days Horus >.> you're making this thread look waaaaay longer than it is with all the pics

Weberda

Weberda wrote: »

Enough Horus! Use the written word (and don't tell me it's because your keyboard is broken).

^^ I swear you're gonna get yourself banned one of these days Horus >.> [/quote]

I think it's cuz of who he hangs out with now.

Ezareth

vortexman11 wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

What you saw was a group of friends running around with no real leader just having fun

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

they arent taking time "off" saw the normal group last night. 8+ on haderus

Let me rephrase this for your delicate mind.

"Take this time stepping down from competitive guilds".

Feels better?

That sounds to me like someone setting up excuses before hand to preserve egos for when some other Zergball steamrolls them : "Ohh we're just casual now....just playing for fun...didn't you see the forum post?".

Ezareth, you know I have nothing against you, but I also know you don't play in large groups. I have no ego to preserve, and I'm hoping no other members of GoS have the need to do so either. When Rylana made this post and when Zazeer made this decision I'm sure it was a simple recognition to the fact that in order to stay competitive with the other "zergball" guilds we'd need leadership, and dedication from our members. Lacking both there was nothing left to do other than make it official.

This post wasn't to say everyone in GoS was quitting all at once or something crazy like that, I think the basis of it was to say we wont be out there taking on guilds like VE, KHole, RAGE, (and I don't honestly know the names of half the guilds now because you're always dissolving and reforming..)

Yeah my comment was directed at that specific excerpt from Frozywozy, I understand Rylanas intent clearly. I just think perhaps people are selling you guys short, as I said I have spent quite a bit of time playing in large groups and I'm still an officer in my original guild which exclusively does large group PvP and went through similar cycles of having the leadership of the guild quit the game yet the guild as a whole still continues to represent. I'm just poking fun a bit at all the sensationalism ( =