Guild of Shadows Retiring from Active Competition

PainfulFAFA · January 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

*wonders how Camelot Unchained is coming along .. finds recent video ... asks for your stuff*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h0f_PVDT4I

Fast forward at 15:00. "I don't see why it is lagging, only using 50% CPU". Sounds promising.

He also mentions "nearly 600 people" and they were all CLUSTERED in ONE AREA with at least 30 FPS.
Now how does that look like in ESO?

The graphics look like Nintendo 8bits (Not complaining - I know this is Alpha). Of course you can get 600 players on the screen using mario bros 3 animations.

Try setting ESO to mario bros 3 animations (low on everything) and tell me again how much better it is.

Darlgon · January 2016

Thanks for the honorable mention @hammayolettuce , but dont think I rate being counted among the elite.. more of a scrub.

I am still here for now.. wanting to see if something shakes loose with a new expansion.. but my sub ends around April.. and if nothing is done to reward subs after two years.. well.. my sub money buys me 3 years of CU, plus a dollar a year sub after that.

On the flip side.. I am forced to add..

Xiphyla wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

This is sad

And I dont understand why so many wants to play camelot unchained..

It's because the main dev that make Warhammer is making camelot unchained. Warhammer was one of the best pvp game i ever played .

Lots of us were hopeful of AvA here in ESO for the same reasons because of Brian Wheelers past experience.. While I read a different feeling over at CU.. I still get the same feelings of dread that "Its a trap."

Stikato · January 2016

ksimpscnub18_ESO wrote: »

Good luck GOS

LOL Camelot Unchained looks worse than ESO, granted its in beta but woof

Camelot Unchained looks worse than DAOC.

I hope it's the most awesome PVP game ever, don't get me wrong. But ugh, not particularly inspiring in any way.

frozywozy · January 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

*wonders how Camelot Unchained is coming along .. finds recent video ... asks for your stuff*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h0f_PVDT4I

Fast forward at 15:00. "I don't see why it is lagging, only using 50% CPU". Sounds promising.

He also mentions "nearly 600 people" and they were all CLUSTERED in ONE AREA with at least 30 FPS.
Now how does that look like in ESO?

The graphics look like Nintendo 8bits (Not complaining - I know this is Alpha). Of course you can get 600 players on the screen using mario bros 3 animations.

Try setting ESO to mario bros 3 animations (low on everything) and tell me again how much better it is.

Where in my post did I say that ESO was good at optimizing their game?

Lisbette · January 2016

Rylana wrote: »

It is with great sadness this day that we announce Zazeer has decided to end GoS's run as a competitive PvP guild. While you may still see some of us on the battlefield, GoS as an entity is no longer how we will likely define ourselves.

For two years we terrorized your buff servers and PRAISED THE ONE MOST HIGH BATZAZ THE FIRST GRANDSLAM EMPEROR NA (sorry crown, he was first, you en peasant)

But yeah, this is serious, and we will see you all in Camelot Unchained.

This is not a goodbye thread, most of the members are staying, but the guild is going casual, so break out some music, dingdong the witch is dead. Or is it?

<crickets chirping.>

~Tamerlin

Ghost-Shot · January 2016

Very sad to see you guys go, fighting you guys on Trueflame in 2.1 was some the best fights i remember in this game. You will be missed and look forward to seeing you again in Camelot Unchained.

stewie_801 · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

CU has just begun to increase their visuals and designs. I get emails from them at the very least 3 times a week (aside from holiday times) describing what they are doing, any new employees they are hiring, what new alpha tests will be conducted, and the results from the alpha tests conducted in the past.

When you log into the alpha test you can talk directly to the people creating the game, including Mark.

The only reply I will see from Zos is likely a warning for this post.

CU and ARK have the best communication with their devs to the player base of any game imo. With CU, you can log into the chat from your computer/phone/tablet and talk to anyone including devs in the game right now too.

For those complaining about how it looks, a lot of animations and artwork are placeholders. They are focusing on performance first, as every game should. You probably will want to check back around Beta 3 for a more in depth on how it will look and run at launch.

CU has said performance comes first, I prefer performance over visuals and would rather not be sliding across my screen everywhere not hitting abilities. If you want a studio who focuses more on a great looking game instead, ESO is there for you.

WRX · January 2016

stewie_801 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

CU has just begun to increase their visuals and designs. I get emails from them at the very least 3 times a week (aside from holiday times) describing what they are doing, any new employees they are hiring, what new alpha tests will be conducted, and the results from the alpha tests conducted in the past.

When you log into the alpha test you can talk directly to the people creating the game, including Mark.

The only reply I will see from Zos is likely a warning for this post.

CU and ARK have the best communication with their devs to the player base of any game imo. With CU, you can log into the chat from your computer/phone/tablet and talk to anyone including devs in the game right now too.

For those complaining about how it looks, a lot of animations and artwork are placeholders. They are focusing on performance first, as every game should. You probably will want to check back around Beta 3 for a more in depth on how it will look and run at launch.

CU has said performance comes first, I prefer performance over visuals and would rather not be sliding across my screen everywhere not hitting abilities. If you want a studio who focuses more on a great looking game instead, ESO is there for you.

Agreed, and I have logged close to 800 hours on ARK even though I really don't play that game much anymore except for a few stints. Way to demanding if you plan to run on a competitive server without a large tribe, regardless the game is phenomenal.

And you summed it up pretty perfectly with the animations. Once the game is finalized or close to it, you will actually never see these animations again. They never claim to want RPG graphics, but this is not even close to what it will look like.

I for one, am not that excited how nice my character looks, when its moving at 3 fps and can't attack things.

Erynyes · January 2016

sad to see you go, twas always fun grouping with GoS, on behalf of L'Ordre du Dragon i wish you guys GL

silky_soft · January 2016

Lol cu, cya when you come back

Joy_Division · January 2016

Ezareth wrote: »

I'm not really sure what has changed to cause such general malaise. So Zazeer went casual and there will be one less Zerg running around. Isn't this a good thing and generally what we want? Groups are getting smaller and smaller (With some exceptions) which is good.

It seems the majority of the players in GoS are still playing so the impact really should be minor. Plenty of Red ball groups rolling around still as I fought them all weekend.

No. GoS was not a mindless Zerg, but a collection of talented players who typically actually tried to make the campaigns they played on better for the entire PvP community. We need more guilds with such accountability and a sense of responsibility, not less.

And you don't seem to have recognzied that with the exodus of many of the more talented players and guilds - Alacrity, Havoc, No Mercy, et al, - all I presume you are happy to see gone as that's one less zergblob - they simply get replaced by other guilds who try to mimic what made them successful and just wind up tanking the ping because ZoS's incompetence and failure to work with the PvP community have fostered a meta where such lag-inducing tactics are rewarded.

The departure of GoS is a real loss and I am sorry I won't be playing with or against them.

timidobserver · January 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

*wonders how Camelot Unchained is coming along .. finds recent video ... asks for your stuff*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h0f_PVDT4I

Fast forward at 15:00. "I don't see why it is lagging, only using 50% CPU". Sounds promising.

He also mentions "nearly 600 people" and they were all CLUSTERED in ONE AREA with at least 30 FPS.
Now how does that look like in ESO?

The graphics look like Nintendo 8bits (Not complaining - I know this is Alpha). Of course you can get 600 players on the screen using mario bros 3 animations.

Try setting ESO to mario bros 3 animations (low on everything) and tell me again how much better it is.

Where in my post did I say that ESO was good at optimizing their game?

Here.

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS does a good job optimizing their game.

heystreethawk · January 2016

First time I remember seeing you guys was sometime in 1.5 when Chillrend was a blue buff server -- DiE hopped over to pull off from the mess that Thornblade had become, push an emp or two, and generally kick back and relax fighting enormous zergs of complacent blues who didn't wear impen.

Zazeer and co. seemed happy to have another crew on the server to hassle the natives -- and eventually, to fight against -- and they actually brought us a little welcome basket with a yellow scroll inside, once they saw that we weren't likely to run back to TB in the face of overwhelming opposition. We met up in a field and emoted at each other for a while; a couple GoS people popped on skellie costumes and rode back south with us. My impression, not just from that, has always been that people in the guild had a lot of fun with the game.

MisterBigglesworth · January 2016

CAIT SITH VEILSTALKER, HERE I COME!!!

HYPE INTENSIFYING!!!!

PainfulFAFA · January 2016

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

CAIT SITH VEILSTALKER, HERE I COME!!![img][/img]http://camelotunchained.com/v2/wp-content/gallery/cait_syth/sp_catsith_couple01.jpg

HYPE INTENSIFYING!!!!

Red Cap and Fianna for me!

^_^

Edit: This is now a CU thread

Zander98 · January 2016

And so goes one of the last of the old guard.
I am not even that active anymore and it makes me sad. I saw a 69 in zone first in Scourge, running around as a level 22. When I do log in it won't feel the same.
There have been more militant PVP guilds. More strict and disciplined guilds. But GoS was always about fun. The bad boys running hard. Hella troll in zone. Yes. They were a PVP guild. But they had some of the best theory crafters, most meticulous testers, balanced raid leaders and some of the players who have been more dedicated to the gaming community and heath than ZOS employees.
Let you run your own builds, have fun and act a fool. Always down to try crazy illogical things that sometimes worked. And never complained when I would spam Necro Orbs when 1.6 dropped. Hehe.
EP pugs will be lost without you to follow around. Including me.
As an intelligent and skilled ep player once told me, "I think PVP guilds are inherently poisonous to an MMO. But unlike almost all of them, GoS actually means well."
Tip my glass to you guys. I'll catch ya'll in CU.

................................But really we all know GoS was Zaz's personal trophy case. What you going to do with all those heads hanging on your wall Zaz? Crazy to think your personal game of Pokémon is over.

Stanko · January 2016

Sad to read. I rode with GoS and stayed in their TS for my entire emp push/run (about 14 hours). It was April 4, 2015, a glorious day.

Suru · January 2016

Theres goes one of the most chill eso players ;(

Zazz come back

Seri · January 2016

Adonikam wrote: »

Thanks Rylana. You're a great player and even better leader. You've sacrificed a lot of time to hold the guild together for this long. The state of PVP and the game in general is a bigger monster than any 24 man raid we've faced in Cyrodill.

^^ Very much this. While timezones mean I miss US primetime a lot, the last two weeks have been a blast so thanks Rylana for all the time and effort you've put in.

To the rest of GoS and Zaz, thanks for all the fun and hope to see many of you around in Cyro for a while longer

Ishammael · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

CU has just begun to increase their visuals and designs. I get emails from them at the very least 3 times a week (aside from holiday times) describing what they are doing, any new employees they are hiring, what new alpha tests will be conducted, and the results from the alpha tests conducted in the past.

When you log into the alpha test you can talk directly to the people creating the game, including Mark.

The only reply I will see from Zos is likely a warning for this post.

Can confirm.

Scamandros · January 2016

I feel like CU is going to be the biggest eso reunion

Schurge · January 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

*wonders how Camelot Unchained is coming along .. finds recent video ... asks for your stuff*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h0f_PVDT4I

Fast forward at 15:00. "I don't see why it is lagging, only using 50% CPU". Sounds promising.

It is in internal testing - it doesn't even resemble a game yet. Try again.

vortexman11 · January 2016

Ezareth · January 2016

Joy_Division wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

I'm not really sure what has changed to cause such general malaise. So Zazeer went casual and there will be one less Zerg running around. Isn't this a good thing and generally what we want? Groups are getting smaller and smaller (With some exceptions) which is good.

It seems the majority of the players in GoS are still playing so the impact really should be minor. Plenty of Red ball groups rolling around still as I fought them all weekend.

No. GoS was not a mindless Zerg, but a collection of talented players who typically actually tried to make the campaigns they played on better for the entire PvP community. We need more guilds with such accountability and a sense of responsibility, not less.

And you don't seem to have recognzied that with the exodus of many of the more talented players and guilds - Alacrity, Havoc, No Mercy, et al, - all I presume you are happy to see gone as that's one less zergblob - they simply get replaced by other guilds who try to mimic what made them successful and just wind up tanking the ping because ZoS's incompetence and failure to work with the PvP community have fostered a meta where such lag-inducing tactics are rewarded.

The departure of GoS is a real loss and I am sorry I won't be playing with or against them.

My recollection of fighting them doesn't make them quite so benevolent as you seem to recall but my intent wasn't to insult them in any way, just to state the obvious from my PoV.

Do you honestly thing the farming Ball groups of Alacrity, No Mercy, and Havok has been a good thing for this game? How many thousands of players got farmed over and over by these elite crews with no chance at all to compete and ended up never coming back?

One guy leaving didn't change PvP in any way, IMO it may have helped it in more ways than it hurt it. That's no an insult at any of them, Zazeer is a nice guy and I enjoyed fighting with and speaking to him, but I think that playstyle in this game has had a detrimental effect more than it helped the enjoyment of the players who contributed to it.

If GoS becoming casual means no more blobs then perhaps I'll get a chance to experience some PvP from its members in a far more "Casual" manner and that's a good thing to me yes. /shrug

imredneckson · January 2016

Rylana wrote: »

It is with great sadness this day that we announce Zazeer has decided to end GoS's run as a competitive PvP guild. While you may still see some of us on the battlefield, GoS as an entity is no longer how we will likely define ourselves.

For two years we terrorized your buff servers and PRAISED THE ONE MOST HIGH BATZAZ THE FIRST GRANDSLAM EMPEROR NA (sorry crown, he was first, you en peasant)

But yeah, this is serious, and we will see you all in Camelot Unchained.

This is not a goodbye thread, most of the members are staying, but the guild is going casual, so break out some music, dingdong the witch is dead. Or is it?

Really? Damn its a shame to see a guild that damn skilled go casual.....well best of luck in Camelot Unchained.

JDar · January 2016

Xiphyla wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

This is sad

And I dont understand why so many wants to play camelot unchained..

It's because the main dev that make Warhammer is making camelot unchained. Warhammer was one of the best pvp game i ever played .

Yup. Thanks EA. Anybody play emulated server Warhammer? I was a squig herder. Sure would love for there to be a WAR 2.

JDar · January 2016

WRX wrote: »

CU has just begun to increase their visuals and designs. I get emails from them at the very least 3 times a week (aside from holiday times) describing what they are doing, any new employees they are hiring, what new alpha tests will be conducted, and the results from the alpha tests conducted in the past.

When you log into the alpha test you can talk directly to the people creating the game, including Mark.

The only reply I will see from Zos is likely a warning for this post.

I'd love to see CU do well but I've never seen a Kickstarter game that was worth a piece of guar dung. I'm skeptical.

Cadbury · January 2016

JDar wrote: »

I'd love to see CU do well but I've never seen a Kickstarter game that was worth a piece of guar dung. I'm skeptical.

Still waiting on City of Titans personally

TheValkyn · January 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

*wonders how Camelot Unchained is coming along .. finds recent video ... asks for your stuff*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h0f_PVDT4I

Fast forward at 15:00. "I don't see why it is lagging, only using 50% CPU". Sounds promising.

Remember the ESO beta and PvP during the load/stress scenarios? Hell, even 1.6 load/stress scenarios.

frozywozy · January 2016

Ezareth wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

I'm not really sure what has changed to cause such general malaise. So Zazeer went casual and there will be one less Zerg running around. Isn't this a good thing and generally what we want? Groups are getting smaller and smaller (With some exceptions) which is good.

It seems the majority of the players in GoS are still playing so the impact really should be minor. Plenty of Red ball groups rolling around still as I fought them all weekend.

No. GoS was not a mindless Zerg, but a collection of talented players who typically actually tried to make the campaigns they played on better for the entire PvP community. We need more guilds with such accountability and a sense of responsibility, not less.

And you don't seem to have recognzied that with the exodus of many of the more talented players and guilds - Alacrity, Havoc, No Mercy, et al, - all I presume you are happy to see gone as that's one less zergblob - they simply get replaced by other guilds who try to mimic what made them successful and just wind up tanking the ping because ZoS's incompetence and failure to work with the PvP community have fostered a meta where such lag-inducing tactics are rewarded.

The departure of GoS is a real loss and I am sorry I won't be playing with or against them.

My recollection of fighting them doesn't make them quite so benevolent as you seem to recall but my intent wasn't to insult them in any way, just to state the obvious from my PoV.

Do you honestly thing the farming Ball groups of Alacrity, No Mercy, and Havok has been a good thing for this game? How many thousands of players got farmed over and over by these elite crews with no chance at all to compete and ended up never coming back?

One guy leaving didn't change PvP in any way, IMO it may have helped it in more ways than it hurt it. That's no an insult at any of them, Zazeer is a nice guy and I enjoyed fighting with and speaking to him, but I think that playstyle in this game has had a detrimental effect more than it helped the enjoyment of the players who contributed to it.

If GoS becoming casual means no more blobs then perhaps I'll get a chance to experience some PvP from its members in a far more "Casual" manner and that's a good thing to me yes. /shrug

See this is exactly what I said tonight to some members of the DC 21men ballgroup who were farming EP pugs at Alessia mine for hours. But they kept saying that they were close to dieing to them and blablabla. In reality, they were not even using barriers or purges and were rolling on the same guys over and over and over farming them and not giving them any hope.

In other words, some people play this game for their own interests and pleasure and don't give a damn if the opposite faction never get any kills and get discouraged. As long as they get their AP farm rolling, it's all that matters to them. They won't split their groups in two halfs and hit different places to make it more challenging. They will stick to their ballgroup of 21 and farm spreaded out EP standing in their pain train. In the end, players who just started playing the game leave as fast as they arrived with a salty taste left in their mouth.