Guild of Shadows Retiring from Active Competition

rfennell_ESO

I see all the people going gaga for Camelot Unchained and start to think about how SOUL CRUSHING the lag was in Daoc.

It was easily "far worse" than the lag in ESO. The only acceptable lag was 8 man ganksquads... keep battles were lagfests, artifact keep battles were always lagged to a crawl. Any mass movement of armies was so bad you could tell where they were just by facing their direction.

I haven't the vaguest idea about atlantis onward where their population disappeared (and wow came out), but it wasn't the sunny meadow of pvp fun in mass combat it's being made out to be.

But funny seeing Mark Jacobs name attached, if anyone was an old VN boards dweller and remembers him getting trolled out in beta to "beat down" some troll that was telling everyone it was going to be 39.99 a month and "forced" him to reveal the actual monthly rate... well, haha... not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed to allow himself to be trolled out like that. When I pmed him about it and asked for beta access he messaged me back "not on a cold day in hell", I got in anyways though...

Xsorus

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I see all the people going gaga for Camelot Unchained and start to think about how SOUL CRUSHING the lag was in Daoc.

It was easily "far worse" than the lag in ESO. The only acceptable lag was 8 man ganksquads... keep battles were lagfests, artifact keep battles were always lagged to a crawl. Any mass movement of armies was so bad you could tell where they were just by facing their direction.

I haven't the vaguest idea about atlantis onward where their population disappeared (and wow came out), but it wasn't the sunny meadow of pvp fun in mass combat it's being made out to be.

But funny seeing Mark Jacobs name attached, if anyone was an old VN boards dweller and remembers him getting trolled out in beta to "beat down" some troll that was telling everyone it was going to be 39.99 a month and "forced" him to reveal the actual monthly rate... well, haha... not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed to allow himself to be trolled out like that. When I pmed him about it and asked for beta access he messaged me back "not on a cold day in hell", I got in anyways though...

Umm, keep battles weren't laggy? Bout the only time the game got super laggy was during relic raids when you had 100s of people in a small area. Though if you played before shrouded isles it could get laggy as well. Back then just coming in loading distance of alb relic keep would kill your fps. However after the client upgrade with SI the lag was limited to the relic fights basically. This is coming from someone who played on Merlin also.. Which had 3k+ people regularly playing it.

Also the population didn't disappear with TOA, it actually increased after it. It took a nose dive with WoWs release though.

The rest of your post is just ugg.

akredon_ESO

Well this sucks not happy to see you guys go but good luck in what ever you do

Tomato

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

allen-iverson

GoS was the first GuildvGuild fights I've ever been involved in.

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

bruh let them do their thing.

SkarletLiqorish

allen-iverson wrote: »

GoS was the first GuildvGuild fights I've ever been involved in.

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

bruh let them do their thing.

tomatoes gonna tomate (couldn't help myself)

Turtl3Lov3

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

allen-iverson wrote: »

GoS was the first GuildvGuild fights I've ever been involved in.

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

bruh let them do their thing.

tomatoes gonna tomate (couldn't help myself)

I heard tomatoes are silky moist this time of the year.

SkarletLiqorish

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

allen-iverson wrote: »

GoS was the first GuildvGuild fights I've ever been involved in.

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

bruh let them do their thing.

tomatoes gonna tomate (couldn't help myself)

I heard tomatoes are silky moist this time of the year.

oh gawd..

Rylana

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

Not exactly, but kinda.

What actually happened are a few officers of GoS had the idea to bring in a couple non-GoS, form a new guild, and only bring the ones from GoS they wanted. As GoS collapsed, some people joined other guilds. Another guild Darkest Requiem contains several of the GoS core, along with a lot of newer players and plays mostly on Haderus still.

So the best way to actually summarize it...

GoS had about 100 active members (20-30 or so on a daily basis). 10-15 of them went to Invictus with a few other people from other guilds, some left GoS entirely, some joined Invictus and DR, some are only in DR, and quite a few are still in GoS as well.

Sounds really complicated but its not. Invictus contains a lot of the stronger players, DR also has a good portion of them, the difference is Invictus ONLY has those players whereas DR is more robust and not as reliant on a choice few. Ive never liked building guilds on exclusivity, because if a few people stop playing the guild dies.

Differences of opinion or drama aside (as a few members on both sides dont agree with the situation, myself being at the forefront as I felt the core should never have split up but just continued to run as GoS) referring to either guild as new GoS or GoS team 1 and team 2, or any other derivative is just dishonest. The split groups are not really separated on skill lines, but more on cliq lines. Though I am sure some would claim otherwise, there are just as many good players in DR as there are in Inv. Id even argue that most of the weaker less reliable core members went to Invictus, whereas DR has more of the steady workhorses. Ill get attacked for that statement but its okay, its mine to make.

By less reliable or weaker I refer to people self absorbed with making self-aggrandizing videos, 1vX, only worrying about AP gain, personal gratification, and generally being elitist *** vs working towards strengthening the guild, bonds, ties, friendships, and fun factor. AP/hour, yeah ive been at 50-60k/hour it gets boring after a while. The people are what make a guild important, not how much impen youre stacking or how many champion points you have or how many "known" players you talk to.

GoS is dead. It died when this thread was made (really it was dying months before that when Zaz and the other officers became more casual and invited in dozens of people that never actually played with the guild and turned it into social hour)

Darkest Requiem or Invictus, should refer to the new guilds that way.

Rylana

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

allen-iverson wrote: »

GoS was the first GuildvGuild fights I've ever been involved in.

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

bruh let them do their thing.

tomatoes gonna tomate (couldn't help myself)

I heard tomatoes are silky moist this time of the year.

oh gawd..

moistmoistmoistmoist

SkarletLiqorish

Rylana wrote: »

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

allen-iverson wrote: »

GoS was the first GuildvGuild fights I've ever been involved in.

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

bruh let them do their thing.

tomatoes gonna tomate (couldn't help myself)

I heard tomatoes are silky moist this time of the year.

oh gawd..

moistmoistmoistmoist

I can handle this..I can lol

Turtl3Lov3

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

SkarletLiqorish wrote: »

allen-iverson wrote: »

GoS was the first GuildvGuild fights I've ever been involved in.

Tomato wrote: »

Look GoS pulled a Haxus and created a new guild called Invictus with only certain players they cherry picked! I guess they got tired of the quality of players they had in GoS

bruh let them do their thing.

tomatoes gonna tomate (couldn't help myself)

I heard tomatoes are silky moist this time of the year.

oh gawd..

moistmoistmoistmoist

I can handle this..I can lol

Zheg

I've seen the people running with invictus and it looks to be a really fun group to fight. I shall vamp drain each and every one of you.

Ghostbane

Rylana wrote: »

By less reliable or weaker I refer to people self absorbed with making self-aggrandizing videos, 1vX, only worrying about AP gain, personal gratification, and generally being elitist *** vs working towards strengthening the guild, bonds, ties, friendships, and fun factor.

Swampfox

Many moons ago i saw the emergence of the next big thing from a PVP perspective

Many of the top Guilds left at around the same time from UO (Ultima Online) Siege Perilous and put their faith in a new game that just entered Beta

The game i am referring to was Shadowbane and history shows it was a bad decision

Never be too hasty when sometimes its better to stick to the devil you know


I wish those from GoS who have chosen the CU path the best

The formation of 2 Fresh Guilds even if that,s sort of what happened from the remnants of such a respected guild who have proven themselves on the Cyrodill battlefield might just be the tonic EP needs

I can also see @Rylana,s point of view in making the most of who is left and keep the GoS going but that's water under the bridge now

With good Leadership you can achieve plenty by just doing the basics right

ESO is not going anywhere and although there is no doubt many posters expressing so much doom and gloom on the PVP front most of it is actually caused by what is unknown rather than what is known

I think the next 2 ESO Lives will give us much more of a perspective on things PVP wise

To some this is Judgement Day but i still think ESO has much to offer the PVP Community going forward


At least Brian Wheeler gives as much transparency as he is allowed to give

We just need Eric Wrobel to do the same

gw2only1b14_ESO

Talcyndl wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

I don't think you realize how early in development CU actually is, When they say Alpha they actually mean Alpha...not Glorified betas that a lot of games call Alphas.

Yes, it's an "Old school Alpha." I was an early backer and heard all the hype about their approach. I have played several versions of the Alpha releases. I understand that it will change drastically.

But that's kinda the point...saying that it doesn't lag now means very little to me. The game as it stands in Alpha is not the game which the servers (and network) will need to support.

Hmm same here but sadly i find he classes/factions not very interesting and the pvp till this point...pfft nice idea think its the 1 ill be disappointed on

gw2only1b14_ESO

Swampfox wrote: »

Many moons ago i saw the emergence of the next big thing from a PVP perspective

Many of the top Guilds left at around the same time from UO (Ultima Online) Siege Perilous and put their faith in a new game that just entered Beta

The game i am referring to was Shadowbane and history shows it was a bad decision

Never be too hasty when sometimes its better to stick to the devil you know


I wish those from GoS who have chosen the CU path the best

The formation of 2 Fresh Guilds even if that,s sort of what happened from the remnants of such a respected guild who have proven themselves on the Cyrodill battlefield might just be the tonic EP needs

I can also see @Rylana,s point of view in making the most of who is left and keep the GoS going but that's water under the bridge now

With good Leadership you can achieve plenty by just doing the basics right

ESO is not going anywhere and although there is no doubt many posters expressing so much doom and gloom on the PVP front most of it is actually caused by what is unknown rather than what is known

I think the next 2 ESO Lives will give us much more of a perspective on things PVP wise

To some this is Judgement Day but i still think ESO has much to offer the PVP Community going forward


At least Brian Wheeler gives as much transparency as he is allowed to give

We just need Eric Wrobel to do the same

Dam but Shadowbane was fun though maybe this will get together for Crowfall who knows

KenaPKK

mchermie wrote: »

This is sad

And I dont understand why so many wants to play camelot unchained..

Too cartoony looking!! Am confused.

Satiar

Because literally anything is better than 999999 ping.

Psilent

Satiar wrote: »

Because literally anything is better than 999999 ping.

A few good fights last night on Azura's before we left for Haderus. Always a pleasure to fight your group!