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vamp_emily

I am not sure if you guys know Emily B that plays on the DC alliance, but I think she may have had her baby. Her husband also plays on the DC side ( Death [ something ] ) they have so many character names its hard to keep track

Congrats Emily! I wish the best for you and your family.

Frugal

There's quite a few deaths on DC haha. There won't be soon tho.

Lumsdenml

Logged out last night with ep just a keep away from emp. Woke up to a blue map with dc at 3 bars vs. 1 vs 1.... Rough 16 hours for ep....

Valen_Byte

I cant think of a single time in the past 4 months that DC even pushed for EMP in primetime. Nice morning cap DC.

Adenoma

DC never primetime emps. It's not their timezone(s).

TheKnightHawk

JESUS 13k D tick @ ASH in Bwb

MrCal

TheKnightHawk wrote: »

JESUS 13k D tick @ ASH in Bwb

I like how you're just standing there.

MrCal

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Arquin wrote: »

I wont lie, ive helped EP siege AD keeps.. id literally stealth by them and set up siege. It confuses the hell out of them and they attack but then realize im helping and ignore me loool. Love ya ADer's but yall need to die :P

Congrats on the emp last week, btw! It was fun fighting y'all up on glade rocks.

Thanks! Aha.. I need to put some K-Y on those rocks :P

EdmundTowers

No wonder EP is struggling with player count. Who wants to play with such a brain dead faction?

Valen_Byte

EdmundTowers wrote: »

No wonder EP is struggling with player count. Who wants to play with such a brain dead faction?

lmao so funny

Nightenhowl

If AD don't play the bridge games, Ep tend to siege Alessia.

Nightenhowl

IF only the bridge was between Roe and Nikel, you might see more intelligent reds.

EdmundTowers

Not to mention that with DC having taken Arius and cutting off transits, these EP friggin rode to Alessia in order to siege it.

MoreDino

Rode there from Sej? Well yeah, that's typically how it goes.

W0lf_z13

MoreDino wrote: »

Rode there from Sej? Well yeah, that's typically how it goes.

lol ... Point MoreDino ....Score: 1 - 0

vamp_emily

3 weeks in a row?

#DC1-DontHate

Adenoma

Don't interpret this as whining or a negative comment, but I'm not surprised. There's quite a lot of PvDoor that happens in the morning and for whatever reason, DC has had a number of those groups and they've done a great job at capturing keeps and making sure DC is on top.

Most of the time when I get on in the afternoon AD is at least pushed to their tri keeps and there's a DC emperor that has been reigning since 10am EST. That's a lot of map control and points that are scored while nobody's online for approximately half the day, and then EP and AD have to undo that. To DC's credit, they've also made the dethrone attempts difficult.

Unfortunately, I worry a bit about the health of server - I know a lot of people that have switched to DC in order to be on the winning side. I also know that for the majority of players, they're far more casual than I am and much less enthusiastic about the challenge and repeated wipes of a dethrone push. I worry that more casual players will log on, see the map is predominantly DC-controlled with a DC emp and either log off or go to PvE. I wish that wasn't the case because BwB is a great community and a great place for people to dip their feet into PvP for the first time - that's a big reason why I run my guild with deadlyrecluse.

W0lf_z13

have to def give you ad members some dec credit though.... we took over the board morningish and by afternoon when i logged back in i noticed you all were pushing hard... had quite a few difficult fights during that push

vamp_emily

Adenoma wrote: »

Don't interpret this as whining or a negative comment, but I'm not surprised. There's quite a lot of PvDoor that happens in the morning and for whatever reason, DC has had a number of those groups and they've done a great job at capturing keeps and making sure DC is on top.

Most of the time when I get on in the afternoon AD is at least pushed to their tri keeps and there's a DC emperor that has been reigning since 10am EST. That's a lot of map control and points that are scored while nobody's online for approximately half the day, and then EP and AD have to undo that. To DC's credit, they've also made the dethrone attempts difficult.

Unfortunately, I worry a bit about the health of server - I know a lot of people that have switched to DC in order to be on the winning side. I also know that for the majority of players, they're far more casual than I am and much less enthusiastic about the challenge and repeated wipes of a dethrone push. I worry that more casual players will log on, see the map is predominantly DC-controlled with a DC emp and either log off or go to PvE. I wish that wasn't the case because BwB is a great community and a great place for people to dip their feet into PvP for the first time - that's a big reason why I run my guild with deadlyrecluse.

You say that allot of people have switched to DC, however AD is cap locked more often than the other alliances. They either have as many bars as DC or more bars than DC.

Adenoma

AD is certainly a popular alliance at certain times of day. Bear with me times-wise, because this is all relative to my time zone, but if there's one thing I've noticed it's that until the afternoon there are extremely few people on AD. As the evening approaches this number goes up an enormous amount. I'd contrast this with DC, who I think maintains a lower, but more consistent server population over the course of the day. What population DC does have tends to be pretty well organized. When we compare EP, there's little to no population over most of the day. I think that's why AD has a tendency to emp during primetime and DC has favored the early morning to noon emperors.

vamp_emily

Well I would not be concerned about the health of BwB NA, if we have to deal with the over population of AD during prime time , then they have to deal with the extra bar of population during morning hours. I personally think it equals out.

One thing we need to work on is getting population on the EP side so they can have fun too.

I also think they need to do away with some of these addons. I downloaded one the other day that shows what keeps are being sieged. That must suck for EP if they only have a few players on. As soon as they start sieging a keep the other alliance shows up and kills them before they have a chance. So it makes it harder for the under populated alliance to make moves unnoticed because players are using addons which make it an unfair advantage.

Adenoma

Emily, are you referring to Cyrodiil HUD? All of that information is available on the map, provided you are looking closely.

The biggest reason that I feel like BwB is lacking a little health is that we don't have a proportionate EP component.

I'd also point out that primetime is far shorter than the rest of the day. Controlling more objectives for a longer portion of the day will easily overcome a 4-5 hour burst of population. I think that the 2300 point lead struck by DC is in line with that logic. If things really came out equal, I'd expect a much closer scoreboard.

Valen_Byte

Adenoma wrote: »

Emily, are you referring to Cyrodiil HUD? All of that information is available on the map, provided you are looking closely.

The biggest reason that I feel like BwB is lacking a little health is that we don't have a proportionate EP component.

I'd also point out that primetime is far shorter than the rest of the day. Controlling more objectives for a longer portion of the day will easily overcome a 4-5 hour burst of population. I think that the 2300 point lead struck by DC is in line with that logic. If things really came out equal, I'd expect a much closer scoreboard.

Hah...cant see what you are replying to but I see who it is to.

I've gotten in some heated debates over the years on these forums. I've even been banned for three days because of it. But, there is only one person I have come in contact with that I have had to put on ignore. You are completely wasting your time trying to reason with that one. There is no rational thinking behind the things that person posts.

As for the state of our beloved BwB, its bad. Most of my members dont even enter cyro anymore. The TG patch has ruined any skill based play there was. CP have been removed and replaced with an easy button (siege) They should have just removed CP and left the rest alone. Being able to switch characters/factions at anytime does away with any strategy. BwB has lag ffs. where did that come from? hah This is the lowest AD pop has been in a long time. Regardless of what the map looks like, the fighting just isn't as fun as it used to be. I know I havent been playing as much and thats why....its just not fun.

Mjollo

Most of BwB EP players took a break from either non-vet or PvP overall (including myself). The population will fill up again in time and players will be back so it's a temporary imbalance.

Frugal

Moving to EP with a little group, hopefully we can hold keeps and maybe take em.

vamp_emily

This is an example of tonight.





You see how populated it is during the evening, what is the difference between this and DC having more population during the day? Same results, keeps get taken.

Only thing is DC doesn't really cry about it , we just fight back and we get stronger when our keeps get taken.

Vyle_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

This is an example of tonight.





You see how populated it is during the evening, what is the difference between this and DC having more population during the day? Same results, keeps get taken.

Only thing is DC doesn't really cry about it , we just fight back and we get stronger when our keeps get taken.

THE difference is when blue is on capping in the morning there isnt anyone else on. AD has a total of like 10 people on, maybe, in the morning, which is when DC takes emp and the entire map. If you cant see that you are blind. No one is crying, just talking about the imbalance which is obvious.

MrCal

Are you guys still complaining about team purple and DC doing what we can when we can? Seriously let it go.

Ive notice that AD tends to attack Sej a loooooooot, id push Alessia as well if I were in their shoes, Emp or no Emp. What imbalance are you talking about? You guys have pop lock a few times a week and still have an issue taking our Keeps unless you get help from EP (then complain about team purple). Sounds like typical Elvish politics to me :P



Its war, keeps are meant to be taken.. if your faction is not there to defend then maybe you should recruit more aussies :P

Nightenhowl

The Aussie flag is mostly blue, so it makes sense that DC is a good home. However their national colors include yellowish/gold and green so I won't be surprised to see some Aussie Elfs (also they had a female leader). This leaves Ep with the least amount of Aussies if my theory is correct.

vamp_emily

Adenoma wrote: »

Emily, are you referring to Cyrodiil HUD? All of that information is available on the map, provided you are looking closely.

Yes that is the addon I was referring to. I understand that the information is provided; but, what makes this addon an unfair advantage is the way the information is displayed.

Example 1: ( using addon )
EP has a total of 10 people on and DC has 3 bar population. EP comes up with a plan to take Fare back, they get in position set up siege and begin to fire.

A DC member, with the addon, gets a notification that Fare is being sieged, he yells in zone chat "Everyone goto Fare.. now".

EP Dies.


Example 2: ( no addon )
EP has a total of 10 people on and DC has 3 bar population. EP preps Chal and Bleakers then sets up siege on Fare. DC, on the other hand, are just hanging out at Nikel talking about AD ( no addon notifications / siege information on their screen).

Someone from DC looks at the map and sees bleakers flagged, then chal flagged, then 16 sieges on Fare. They then notify everyone in zone chat the keeps/outposts are being attacked.

EP takes Fare.


This is just my point of view and I am sure everyone does disagree, but I feel these types of addons create an unfair advantage for alliances that are under populated. Instant siege information displayed on your screen is just wrong.