Campaign Performance

Rylana

frozywozy wrote: »

Again, please reduce the population cap by 20% and open another 30days campaign.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

We actually need 2 campaigns, Haderus is getting just as bad as trueflame in prime.

We also NEED to keep the number above three so its not just buffserver roulette again like it was back when Chillrend still existed.

Toc de Malsvi

For xbox NA population caps should also be reduced but there is no need for another campaign, most are not even close to full. However reducing the population should help with performance while also effectively working to help encourage players to play on other campaigns outside of Haderus and Scourge.

Lava_Croft

Constant 20 fps and 300+ ping.

Great performance improvements!

ZOS_BrianWheeler

There are discussions internally about opening another Campaign on NA and EU PC servers. We are looking at the performance changes from this update and will keep you all posted!

Lord_Draevan

Yeah, we definitely needs another 30 day/CP enabled/1 point per objective campaign.
Bring back Wabbajack!

Bashev

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are discussions internally about opening another Campaign on NA and EU PC servers. We are looking at the performance changes from this update and will keep you all posted!

This will not change anything. In eu the only balanced campaign is TF and Azura. All the rest are nightcapped and dead if it is not prime time. The system needs changes. Emperor should be removed, then player will not take all keeps during the night.

Or even better we need dynamic population caps. It is not fun when you have 1 bar from your faction to play against 3 bars who has all the keeps and when you attack all of the come at once because they are hungry for AP.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are discussions internally about opening another Campaign on NA and EU PC servers. We are looking at the performance changes from this update and will keep you all posted!

Please make it a time locked one, that on US is open from 3 pm eastern until midnight pacific and outside that time frame points are not counted and you cannot take any objectives or scrolls.

Make it from 15.00 polish time until midnight british time for the EU.

That way at least ONE server is not won by whoever can nightcap the best.

Asmael

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are discussions internally about opening another Campaign on NA and EU PC servers. We are looking at the performance changes from this update and will keep you all posted!

Please make it a time locked one, that on US is open from 3 pm eastern until midnight pacific and outside that time frame points are not counted and you cannot take any objectives or scrolls.

Make it from 15.00 polish time until midnight british time for the EU.

That way at least ONE server is not won by whoever can nightcap the best.

Australia would like to have a word with you.

Bashev

Asmael wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are discussions internally about opening another Campaign on NA and EU PC servers. We are looking at the performance changes from this update and will keep you all posted!

Please make it a time locked one, that on US is open from 3 pm eastern until midnight pacific and outside that time frame points are not counted and you cannot take any objectives or scrolls.

Make it from 15.00 polish time until midnight british time for the EU.

That way at least ONE server is not won by whoever can nightcap the best.

Australia would like to have a word with you.

ZoS can make other campaigns which are for Oceanic players.

Mustard

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Please add a 3rd CP campaign to NA - PC and lower the population on all 3 to spread everyone out.

Solariken

@ZOS_BrianWheeler this is good news. WTB 2-week/CP-enabled/normal-objective-scoring.

Also, can we PLEASE have Imperial City servers moved into an independent/separate campaign(s)? I know you said it would be difficult to untie from Cyrodiil, but it's the best decision for the continued health of the DLC.

runagate

Solariken wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler this is good news. WTB 2-week/CP-enabled/normal-objective-scoring.

Also, can we PLEASE have Imperial City servers moved into an independent/separate campaign(s)? I know you said it would be difficult to untie from Cyrodiil, but it's the best decision for the continued health of the DLC.

Couldn't agree more.

Tendrielle

I think an easy way to balance campaigns would be to provide incentives to join a campaign less populated by your faction. So, if your population bar is lower than those of your foes, you receive extra AP. Simple as that. Most people would distribute out even I assume.

ZOS_BrianWheeler

"if your population bar is lower than those of your foes, you receive extra AP" <-- This already happens at a rate of 20% bonus to AP if you're Alliance is noted as underpopulated. You also get another 20% if you're alliance is losing that campaign by a significant amount as noted in the Under-scoring bonus.

Niaver

Add capmaign with smaller max population. I want to play in balanced campaigns without lags.

arkansas_ESO

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are discussions internally about opening another Campaign on NA and EU PC servers. We are looking at the performance changes from this update and will keep you all posted!

Awesome to hear, as all CP-enabled campaigns on NA are nearly unplayable during prime time, especially during weekends. The issue is that, during the week, there's not enough activity to prevent the third campaign from becoming dominated by one side. Maybe consider having third CP-enabled campaign that lasts a weekend? This takes the strain off of TF and Had and prevents there being a one-sided campaign during the week.

ManDraKE

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

"if your population bar is lower than those of your foes, you receive extra AP" <-- This already happens at a rate of 20% bonus to AP if you're Alliance is noted as underpopulated. You also get another 20% if you're alliance is losing that campaign by a significant amount as noted in the Under-scoring bonus.

PvP players dont care too much about farming AP, most of them are sitting over millons of AP. People play cyrodril on daily basics to win campaings vs rival guilds, to get emperor, etc, and all that is runied by nightcapping and lag, AP bonuses are irrelevant to the flow of cyrodril.

Dynamic population limits are needed. We also need to do something with IC, there is too many instances of it and too little people playing it, is dead for most part of the day. Also new things to the Telvar vendors is needed on every major patch, to keep alive the need of going there.

Tendrielle

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Well, that's great! But maybe it should be more clearly communicated in the PvP-Campaign interface, so it is visible to you when you choose the campaign you want to attend. Or is it there and I did not notice?

Cydone

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

"if your population bar is lower than those of your foes, you receive extra AP" <-- This already happens at a rate of 20% bonus to AP if you're Alliance is noted as underpopulated. You also get another 20% if you're alliance is losing that campaign by a significant amount as noted in the Under-scoring bonus.

Doesn't seem to work right. What is considered to be underpop? Cause it seems like the only time that bonus is even noticeable is when your faction has 1 bar and everyone else is pop locked. Should be if any of the factions are pop locked and you aren't, there should be that bonus. But again, it doesn't seem like this is working as intended.

Mustard

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

"if your population bar is lower than those of your foes, you receive extra AP" <-- This already happens at a rate of 20% bonus to AP if you're Alliance is noted as underpopulated. You also get another 20% if you're alliance is losing that campaign by a significant amount as noted in the Under-scoring bonus.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

You just need to add a 3rd CP campaign and lower the population on all 3 since the lag cant be fixed during big fights.

Also move IC in a separate single instance / server since its dead most the of the time and have it not impact population.

Docmandu

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are discussions internally about opening another Campaign on NA and EU PC servers. We are looking at the performance changes from this update and will keep you all posted!

There are actual performance changes?! Or is that just a reference to the Town capture mechanism?

Lord_Draevan

Niaver wrote: »

Add capmaign with smaller max population. I want to play in balanced campaigns without lags.

I'd like to know what the current max population is. I know it was 600 vs 600 vs 600 back at launch, but it's been reduced since then yet ZOS won't tell us the new numbers

Dagoth_Rac

ManDraKE wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

"if your population bar is lower than those of your foes, you receive extra AP" <-- This already happens at a rate of 20% bonus to AP if you're Alliance is noted as underpopulated. You also get another 20% if you're alliance is losing that campaign by a significant amount as noted in the Under-scoring bonus.

PvP players dont care too much about farming AP, most of them are sitting over millons of AP. People play cyrodril on daily basics to win campaings vs rival guilds, to get emperor, etc, and all that is runied by nightcapping and lag, AP bonuses are irrelevant to the flow of cyrodril.

I have always felt that the non-Emperor keeps should be much harder to take for a foreign faction and much easier to re-take for the home faction. So even if you log into a campaign that is completely dominated by another faction, you will feel you can get back a few of your home keeps rather quickly and get a foothold on the map. You can still PvDoor to take the entire map at night, but it will take longer, and will not hold very long. Make it part of Battle Spirit and call it "Strained Supply Lines" or something.

DHale

IC should always have been a separate instance.

frozywozy

@ZOS_BrianWheeler - Thanks for addressing the need of another 30 days campaign. Could it be possible to get more informations about the reasoning behind NOT reducing the population cap just yet or ignoring the posts related to it in this thread? I've played this game enough at different population bars to know that 3 bars pop is the ideal scenario to PvP in with near to no performance issues still with great large fights happening at multiple places on the map.

EDIT : During latency spikes (above 400ms), the duration of the new mini-snare that got added to the gap closer mechanic is extended by a few seconds making you permanently snared if at least one person is using a gap closer on you every 2-3 seconds. Even in mist form since this snare doesn't seem to be affected by any ability that provide snare immunity.

SoulScream

Remove how emp works on all camps or just on some new camps. Make new camps with different rule sets, please.

Lava_Croft

The reason that PvP at prime time is unplayable is because of a broken game. New campaigns do nothing but weaken the PvP experience even further.

ZOS_BrianWheeler

There have been multiple responses about improved performance in this thread https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/282462/less-lag-since-patch-dropped/p1after the Hist patch.

While this improvement is promising, we're still monitoring performance and making sure things are still progressing forward and continually improving! The big thing we're looking for is combat responsiveness in battles. Are you pressing action keys and they're not firing for several seconds? Are abilities "storing up" and unleashing all at once because no inputs from you went through? Is chat not taking message inputs for several seconds? All of these bits of information help us nail down server performance. As you're reporting sometimes that latency meter is acting wonky, so any reports about how combat is going as opposed to "my meter went red" is very helpful!

Lord_Draevan

I think the Town capture mechanic has helped. People are more spread out now, as opposed to only being near Keeps and Outposts, trying to take the Towns.

visionality

I've been in Trueflame, EU this afternoon with my magica sorc. Lag status is terrible, unfortunately. Whenever heavy damage comes in (.i.e. more than 5 players attacking me at once) the whole screen slows down to 3-5 fps, skills are totally blocked, then slows down even more to 0 fps for 1-2 seconds.Normally when gaming data start flowing again, I'm dead, but sometimes I even survive the havoc. My combat log clearly shows that nothing happend from my side during the "black-out" even when hitting keys like mad.

This is NOT happening with my stam NB, but I have friends playing magica templars who suffer exactly the same.

Why?