Which Alliance is the most evil?

zaria

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Tdroid wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

AD for the obvious reason of the Thalmor. It's clear and has been explained many times that the Thalmor are based of [you know who].

Just a thing to clarify on that; The Thalmor in TES Online is not the same faction as the Thalmor we saw in Skyrim. There is 1000 years between these games, after all.

In Skyrim, the Thalmor are racial supremacists that seek to enslave humans(and possibly unmake the world, if you accept MK writings as lore). In Online, the Thalmor is a part of the larger Aldmeri Dominion governing structure, doing things like inspecting moon sugar farms to see if they operate within the parameters of the law, who were infiltrated by the Veiled Heritence at some point, but that mostly got sorted out.

Hmm ... No there the same. Racist and wanting Altmer race superiority over all other races the only reason there "getting along" is cause there Altmer queen is ordering them to be nice.

I say the Dumer is far worse, yes the Altmers has racists and troublemakers. They are internal enemies.
Dumers on the other hand practice slavery, they had to free the Argonians to get the rest to support them.
Had they not the Argonians would be an vulnerable southern flank, they would have an open invitation to join the dominion, if refused AD would probably get parts to join them and taken others. Anyway shadowfern would be an Cyrodil like battlefield.
To avoid this is probably an large part of the reason why Agonians joined the pact.

And the things AD did in the shadowfern quest was horrible had no issues killing them.

GreyWolf_79

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

zaria wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Tdroid wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

AD for the obvious reason of the Thalmor. It's clear and has been explained many times that the Thalmor are based of [you know who].

Just a thing to clarify on that; The Thalmor in TES Online is not the same faction as the Thalmor we saw in Skyrim. There is 1000 years between these games, after all.

In Skyrim, the Thalmor are racial supremacists that seek to enslave humans(and possibly unmake the world, if you accept MK writings as lore). In Online, the Thalmor is a part of the larger Aldmeri Dominion governing structure, doing things like inspecting moon sugar farms to see if they operate within the parameters of the law, who were infiltrated by the Veiled Heritence at some point, but that mostly got sorted out.

Hmm ... No there the same. Racist and wanting Altmer race superiority over all other races the only reason there "getting along" is cause there Altmer queen is ordering them to be nice.

I say the Dumer is far worse, yes the Altmers has racists and troublemakers. They are internal enemies.
Dumers on the other hand practice slavery, they had to free the Argonians to get the rest to support them.
Had they not the Argonians would be an vulnerable southern flank, they would have an open invitation to join the dominion, if refused AD would probably get parts to join them and taken others. Anyway shadowfern would be an Cyrodil like battlefield.
To avoid this is probably an large part of the reason why Agonians joined the pact.

And the things AD did in the shadowfern quest was horrible had no issues killing them.

So then you agree that DC is the only alliance that can be considered good. Welcome aboard!

Rickter

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

It's pretty clear Daggerfall Covenant are the good guys. let's be real here.

Been a hero from day zero

Ermiq

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

CaptainObvious wrote: »

Pact: Dunmer Slavers in Shadowfen, additionally a Dunmer wants to enslave the ghosts in Stonefalls. Not to mention two very radical religions. Do what I say or be die (Tribunal: Deshaan) and (Sithis: Grahtwood, SE Shadowfen). Not to mention aiding the racist/extremist element in Auridon.

If I remember it correctly, those Dunmer slavers in Shadowfen (and also all Telvanni house) are not a part of a Pact. They refused to join the Pact because slavery is not allowed in Pact officially. So, it's not right to blame Pact because of some Dunmers still practice slavery.
Also, I didn't see any radicalism in Tribunal religion. See, there're ashlanders living next door to "Tribunal Dunmers", they don't like each other of course, but there's no any "do what I want or die". Also, there is a quest where Almalexia killed poor young guy. But that guy killed many innocent people, he was quite mad, no doubt, it wasn't a public punishment or something like that. He was guilty and he was dangerous, that was the reason Almelexia killed him; not for the sake of Tribunal, not against Boethia and other daedra/aedra, but to protect and secure their people.

CyrusArya

Ebonhart Pact - explain

Slavery, ***, and the greatest evil of all-zerging. The answer is obvious.

GreyWolf_79

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Eremith wrote: »

CaptainObvious wrote: »

Pact: Dunmer Slavers in Shadowfen, additionally a Dunmer wants to enslave the ghosts in Stonefalls. Not to mention two very radical religions. Do what I say or be die (Tribunal: Deshaan) and (Sithis: Grahtwood, SE Shadowfen). Not to mention aiding the racist/extremist element in Auridon.

If I remember it correctly, those Dunmer slavers in Shadowfen (and also all Telvanni house) are not a part of a Pact. They refused to join the Pact because slavery is not allowed in Pact officially. So, it's not right to blame Pact because of some Dunmers still practice slavery.
Also, I didn't see any radicalism in Tribunal religion. See, there're ashlanders living next door to "Tribunal Dunmers", they don't like each other of course, but there's no any "do what I want or die". Also, there is a quest where Almalexia killed poor young guy. But that guy killed many innocent people, he was quite mad, no doubt, it wasn't a public punishment or something like that. He was guilty and he was dangerous, that was the reason Almelexia killed him; not for the sake of Tribunal, not against Boethia and other daedra/aedra, but to protect and secure their people.

You have much to say to defend the slavers, but what argument do you have to back up your suggestion that the great Daggerfall Covenant is somehow evil? I am a proud member of the covenant, and I am not here defending slavers. Explain yourself.

Apherius

Ebonhart Pact - explain

they have argonian in their alliance.

and stonefall in ugly.

Ermiq

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

Eremith wrote: »

CaptainObvious wrote: »

Pact: Dunmer Slavers in Shadowfen, additionally a Dunmer wants to enslave the ghosts in Stonefalls. Not to mention two very radical religions. Do what I say or be die (Tribunal: Deshaan) and (Sithis: Grahtwood, SE Shadowfen). Not to mention aiding the racist/extremist element in Auridon.

If I remember it correctly, those Dunmer slavers in Shadowfen (and also all Telvanni house) are not a part of a Pact. They refused to join the Pact because slavery is not allowed in Pact officially. So, it's not right to blame Pact because of some Dunmers still practice slavery.
Also, I didn't see any radicalism in Tribunal religion. See, there're ashlanders living next door to "Tribunal Dunmers", they don't like each other of course, but there's no any "do what I want or die". Also, there is a quest where Almalexia killed poor young guy. But that guy killed many innocent people, he was quite mad, no doubt, it wasn't a public punishment or something like that. He was guilty and he was dangerous, that was the reason Almelexia killed him; not for the sake of Tribunal, not against Boethia and other daedra/aedra, but to protect and secure their people.

You have much to say to defend the slavers, but what argument do you have to back up your suggestion that the great Daggerfall Covenant is somehow evil? I am a proud member of the covenant, and I am not here defending slavers. Explain yourself.

Mis-voted. I've tried to click on AD, but failed somehow.

Qbiken

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

Get the most salt/hate whispers from them.

AD is very friendly IMO, bigboss unites us all

Enslaved

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Apherius wrote: »

they have argonian in their alliance.

and stonefall in ugly.

I have read many stupid things over the decades spent on internet, but this one is pretty much winner.

GreyWolf_79

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Eremith wrote: »

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

Eremith wrote: »

CaptainObvious wrote: »

Pact: Dunmer Slavers in Shadowfen, additionally a Dunmer wants to enslave the ghosts in Stonefalls. Not to mention two very radical religions. Do what I say or be die (Tribunal: Deshaan) and (Sithis: Grahtwood, SE Shadowfen). Not to mention aiding the racist/extremist element in Auridon.

If I remember it correctly, those Dunmer slavers in Shadowfen (and also all Telvanni house) are not a part of a Pact. They refused to join the Pact because slavery is not allowed in Pact officially. So, it's not right to blame Pact because of some Dunmers still practice slavery.
Also, I didn't see any radicalism in Tribunal religion. See, there're ashlanders living next door to "Tribunal Dunmers", they don't like each other of course, but there's no any "do what I want or die". Also, there is a quest where Almalexia killed poor young guy. But that guy killed many innocent people, he was quite mad, no doubt, it wasn't a public punishment or something like that. He was guilty and he was dangerous, that was the reason Almelexia killed him; not for the sake of Tribunal, not against Boethia and other daedra/aedra, but to protect and secure their people.

You have much to say to defend the slavers, but what argument do you have to back up your suggestion that the great Daggerfall Covenant is somehow evil? I am a proud member of the covenant, and I am not here defending slavers. Explain yourself.

Mis-voted. I've tried to click on AD, but failed somehow.

Excellent explanation! You are forgiven.

I will assume that everyone who voted DC as being the "most evil" also made the same mistake.

SammyFable

Dude you [snip] the colours

Blacksmoke

Ebonhart Pact - explain

Dark elfs. Enough said right? Filthy slavers

GreyWolf_79

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

SammyFable wrote: »

Dude you [snip] the colours

Yes, he did. You should probably jump into your DeLorean and go back to November of 2015 to tell him that.

ADarklore

I'm not going to vote because ZOS intentionally painted each alliance zone's enemy quests to be EVIL and make you hate the other. BUT, if you actually started the game in AD and followed Queen Ayrenn, you would realize that she would NEVER have allowed the activities going on in the other alliances to take place. It is quite clear that the activities in other alliance zones are NOT something she would support and are taking place by leaders outside of her knowledge... most likely by the Veiled Heritance as a means of discrediting her... which is what they are constantly trying to do throughout the game.

Thus, to say all of AD is 'evil' is not correct. That was the great thing Cadwell's Silver/Gold, to be able to see the other alliance perspectives... and as I said, each one has the other alliances resorting to evil things that I don't think any of their perspective leaders would support.

Vipstaakki

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

If genocide isn't evil enough. How about killing people and stealing their skins? AD and DC are both crazy. EP is the only alliance that can be actually considered good.

Banana

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

High elves

Ermiq

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

ADarklore wrote: »

I'm not going to vote because ZOS intentionally painted each alliance zone's enemy quests to be EVIL and make you hate the other. BUT, if you actually started the game in AD and followed Queen Ayrenn, you would realize that she would NEVER have allowed the activities going on in the other alliances to take place.

It's clear that you're not going to vote because you know that you should vote for AD but you won't do this. )

mb10

Ebonhart Pact - explain

At least AD don't enslave others in their faction.
Dark Elves are pure racists and supremacists.
Nords are just racist and want things their own way too
Argonians are the victims being forced to fight with them.

People have been brainwashed by Skyrim to hate the Thalmor and High Elves but the true evil murderer and dictator of TES is Tiber Septim.
"The Thalmor want to destroy the world and kill all humans" haha what the hell do people come to these conclusions?

Vipstaakki

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

mb10 wrote: »

At least AD don't enslave others in their faction.
Dark Elves are pure racists and supremacists.
Nords are just racist and want things their own way too
Argonians are the victims being forced to fight with them.

People have been brainwashed by Skyrim to hate the Thalmor and High Elves but the true evil murderer and dictator of TES is Tiber Septim.
"The Thalmor want to destroy the world and kill all humans" haha what the hell do people come to these conclusions?

What other options do the Argonians have? Your alliance actively tries to genocide them.

Vanthras79

Ebonhart Pact - explain

The EP is ruled by "three wiley demonspawn" that murdered their good friend and then ascended to god-hood. The EP also benefits from non-argonian slavery in their territory. They use necromancy (see delve in Malabal Tor).

The DC uses necromancy (Stonefalls/Bleackrock).

The AD has a lot of elven racists hiding in their ranks. There is a lore book that describes the utility of the non-altmer members of the Dominion based on their utility. Moonsugar trade.

Velvelya

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

AD, those high elves, they constantly want to take over everything.

red_emu

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Despite the fact it is my favorite faction. The best faction leader and the most beautiful scenery... The racial superiority of Altmer (even though it is true) being their proud and joy and in your face makes it a little evil. My new main who is an Altmer mag warden is actually DC as he rejected the racist ideas and despite still Loving his queen, he pursued a more cosmopolitan life of Wayrest.

Tasear

Ebonhart Pact - explain

Dark elves

StormWylf

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

I would say hands down the Aldmeri Dominion due to their behavior in Shadowfen. The whole skinwalking and massacring of Argonian Eggs was over the top. They had no way of knowing they were targeting Argonians set to become warriors. They could of easily been farmers, artisans and such...

I agree with Korah_Eaglecry for the most part but quite frankly he doesn't go far enough. The AD was engaged in genocide pure and simple. They were systematically killing off the Hist Trees and butchering the eggs. Not sure the other two even came close.

Tr4gicDe4th

Ebonhart Pact - explain

Nords are the equivalent to Germany during the WW2 era. There I said it. Nords think they are the best but they aren't!

Vipstaakki

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

Tr4gicDe4th wrote: »

Nords are the equivalent to Germany during the WW2 era. There I said it. Nords think they are the best but they aren't!

*cough* High elves *cough*

theher0not

Ebonhart Pact - explain

I vote EP because they still allow some forms of slavery.


Sure the AD soldiers in Shadowfen where clawless monsters, but I don't beleve that they where following Ayreen's orders. They where most likley rogues who pretended that they were acting "for the dominion", just as what the Veiled Heritage did at the collage in Auridon.

Enslaved

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Tr4gicDe4th wrote: »

Nords are the equivalent to Germany during the WW2 era. There I said it. Nords think they are the best but they aren't!

Who did Nords invade in ESO timeline? Who did Nords send to death camps? What you wrote is beyond bs, its utter crap.

Beardimus

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Spawn camped us at our gates for weeks on end when I started PvP. War crime.