Something Fishy Going on with Critical Strike

Daraugh

The old 10% crit hit damage, if that could scale off of physical or magick damage, whichever rating is higher, would make Khajiit a nice flexible choice. If any racial suits a Khajiit it would be one that adapts to its advantage.

Gilliamtherogue

The old 10% CHD was universal, so it worked for any damage, which is why khajiits were highly favored with many min maxed builds back in the day. They weren't the #1 in everything, but they were a really solid choice regardless of spec.

Daraugh

I didn't realize that at the time then! What prompted the change to its current state? (When unbugged of course.)

Dermestes

Yeah I started life as a magicka nb with my Khajiit. It hurt when they changed it.

Daraugh

Dermestes wrote: »

Yeah I started life as a magicka nb with my Khajiit. It hurt when they changed it.

So back to magicka now? I switched my nb to a bloodmage. Makes being a werewolf silly, but it'll still be there when this gets fixed. Maybe even improved! /hope
I started in the late betas out knowing I wanted to play a sorc, just couldn't decide which race. I never choose race based on racial passives as they tend change over the course of the game and I've never done a race change in any game. After a few false starts, I just fell in love with the Khajiit race and after getting more into the game I started my own noobish theorycrafting attempts. I would have made a Khajiit nb anyway though! Kind of bummed to find out my attempts were skewed as they were. So I continue on with magicka for now, no worries

Dermestes

Yeah as soon as I get enough mats for my julianos set I'll be going magicka. Traded a bunch away for my vr16 hundings.

altemriel

Khajiit passive still not fixed???? Any ETA on that??


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Daraugh

Daraugh

Ok, so maybe the previous kitty isn't the best face for our crit cause... How about this little cutie?

YoloWizard

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Thanks for all the support everyone, glad to hear that players actually care about this stuff. Shame we care more than ZoS does. Absolutely hilarious that Argonians got a hotfix for one guy who found out spending the points into the swim speed passive within 2 days of reporting it, and this has been broken since Orsinium hit the PTS and affects combat on a large scale, and hits all Khajiit regardless. #priorities

Sigh, its really obvious that Zos doesn't give a flying **** about things that can affect competitiveness between players and guilds. And guess what bug do we have now?




Yes if you look closely see that duel wield heavy attack never crits, what caused this new bug? This is Zos fixing Camo Hunter procing twice on duel wield. Well played Zos, well played

You can find the thread here

bimbo

YoloWizard wrote: »

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Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Thanks for all the support everyone, glad to hear that players actually care about this stuff. Shame we care more than ZoS does. Absolutely hilarious that Argonians got a hotfix for one guy who found out spending the points into the swim speed passive within 2 days of reporting it, and this has been broken since Orsinium hit the PTS and affects combat on a large scale, and hits all Khajiit regardless. #priorities

Sigh, its really obvious that Zos doesn't give a flying **** about things that can affect competitiveness between players and guilds. And guess what bug do we have now?




Yes if you look closely see that duel wield heavy attack never crits, what caused this new bug? This is Zos fixing Camo Hunter procing twice on duel wield. Well played Zos, well played

You can find the thread here

Great........ another bug..... this is getting out of hand.
Can't believe some bug exists almost a full year and haven't got fixed yet.............

Dermestes

They will look at fixing it next patch...or the following or never it seems. Hotfix this crap before the DLC.

FENGRUSH

My god... not my Schwerer Doppelangriff!!!!!!

Sparky617

Daraugh wrote: »

As long as you're at it, why not throw in 8% weapon and spell crit as the end passive?

Why not make it 8% crit chance AND crit damage with both spells and weapons. Make cats viable casters too.

Dermestes

Yeah it used to effect spell damage too....wish it would go back to working on both.

Decayed_Inside

It would be awesome if they made cats viable casters. I'd love to switch mine to magblade

Yolokin_Swagonborn

The mods love to take bug discussions of the general forums and hide them in these lesser known forums.

Daraugh

It's at least more visible here than where it was over in the PTS forum.

I would be thrilled if they included both spell and weapon crit or damage. Cats, moons, magick it all works together in a lore sense and gives them back an added dimension of usefulness as a race.

Well lorewise in a small capacity with the Dagi and Dagi-raht, but I'm ok with that

Shader_Shibes

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Get onto whoever fixes stuffz, and get them to do it naow!

rotbag

Can confirm that heavy attack (dual wield) never crits. Heavy attack does crit, however, whatever that means.

Dermestes

Holy hell another patch and still not fixed. What a pile of steaming crap.

Daraugh

Aaaaaaaand nothing.

ArgoCye

And here's me with a roster full of cats.

Sadly, this kind of response to broken gameplay is entirely because ZOS's model has become B2P - everything is about new, sellable content. Fixing stuff that's been broken FOR MONTHS takes on less priority. Was in Cyrodiil a few hours ago and the lag was diabolical, what's even worse was the pops were low. And then there's the class balance issues and the pvp issues and the IC issues...

I don't see many posts on these forums asking for new content (and by many I really mean any), but I see a bunch of posts requesting fixes. But I guess ZOS doesn't think that makes them money.

Septimus_Magna

Todays patch notes:

Weapon Dual Wield - Fixed an issue where the second Dual Wield heavy attack was not able to critically hit.

Tankqull

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ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just checked on the status of this, and looks like it will be addressed in our next major update.

Next major update? Seriously, why not now? I mean it's been around for ages dammit. You guys are *** hot at addressing miniscule problems, yet fail to immediately fix a very important racial passive.



And also, "looks like" isn't a guarantee it will be fixed in the next patch, unbelievable!!!!

because of the patching cycles they are forced too, thx to consoles.

Shader_Shibes

I don't give a *** anymore. Zos can *** off, really tired of their lack of giving a ***. Something like this could be hot fixed easily. Imagine all the QQ if redguards adrenaline rush was broke, or imperials weren't getting extra hp and stam.

Zos are a joke. Havent played ESO for 4 days now, subs cancelled, don't miss it. Now to find a game with GOOD devs.

Shadzilla

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just checked on the status of this, and looks like it will be addressed in our next major update.

The next major update??? This is getting way past out of hand. What happens when you guys destroy a sorcs overload? Hotfix it within a day... What happens when an argonians swim passive isnt working correctly? HOTFIX!!! What happens when skills get nerfed or changed? You get your points back to change your choice. Sadly when it comes to a racial passive, this is not the case. Its bad enough that you guys completely nerfed this race... With NO OPTIONS at all for anyone who rolled cat at launch to change, other than rerolling another character. It is literally offensive at this point to your player base that you have been aware of this MAJOR ISSUE for a third of a year and still have not done anything about it. ISSUES LIKE THIS are why we only have a tiny fraction of the population we did at launch. Let me please remind you @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_BrianWheeler THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE.

Khajiit characters are currently UNABLE to even come close to comparing to every other race in the game right now. REMINDER... This is the only class without an attribute bonus...we don't get the 10 or 6-6 percent bonus to stamina, health or magicka... Currently we have the STEALTH BONUS AND SOME RECOVERY, THATS IT!!! Please fix this passive, or change it back to where it affects crit and damage... OR make the race change possible so people can have an option on what to play pending on how broken some races are! Seriously, everyone knows you guys are all about the crown store, make it 10k crowns for a race change. People will pay it.

HOTFIX THIS PLEASE, was reported to you guys IN THE LAST PTS... now we have to wait until maybe March or April??? Ok cool, no worries there. Khajiits have been completely destroyed for a third of a year... Lets just fix it next patch, all good. Hopefully we wont keep losing our player base because of GAME BREAKING bugs and issues that are set aside for later dates. SADLY I'm pretty sure if adren rush, or spellcharge passives were not working they would be fixed inside a week... No clue where your priorities are at ZOS, but I want this game to succeed. You should listen to your people.

Xvorg

Shadzilla wrote: »

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ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just checked on the status of this, and looks like it will be addressed in our next major update.

Khajiit characters are currently UNABLE to even come close to comparing to every other race in the game right now. REMINDER... This is the only class without an attribute bonus...we don't get the 10 or 6-6 percent bonus to stamina, health or magicka... Currently we have the STEALTH BONUS AND SOME RECOVERY, THATS IT!!! Please fix this passive, or change it back to where it affects crit and damage... OR make the race change possible so people can have an option on what to play pending on how broken some races are! Seriously, everyone knows you guys are all about the crown store, make it 10k crowns for a race change. People will pay it.

Seriously, try argonian. At least you have a 20% health recovery and a 10% stamina recovery. What do we have? Swimming, and a passive that is useful only each 45 secs and that is useless when you are out of pots. Ah, and a nicel 10% healing receive bonus that magicaly turns into 5% when jumping into cyrodiil....

Shader_Shibes

Xvorg wrote: »

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Shadzilla wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just checked on the status of this, and looks like it will be addressed in our next major update.

Khajiit characters are currently UNABLE to even come close to comparing to every other race in the game right now. REMINDER... This is the only class without an attribute bonus...we don't get the 10 or 6-6 percent bonus to stamina, health or magicka... Currently we have the STEALTH BONUS AND SOME RECOVERY, THATS IT!!! Please fix this passive, or change it back to where it affects crit and damage... OR make the race change possible so people can have an option on what to play pending on how broken some races are! Seriously, everyone knows you guys are all about the crown store, make it 10k crowns for a race change. People will pay it.

Seriously, try argonian. At least you have a 20% health recovery and a 10% stamina recovery. What do we have? Swimming, and a passive that is useful only each 45 secs and that is useless when you are out of pots. Ah, and a nicel 10% healing receive bonus that magicaly turns into 5% when jumping into cyrodiil....

Your passives, albeit terribad ones, actually work, whereas our main passive, doesn't.

The difference, see it?

Ahzek

Daraugh wrote: »

I didn't realize that at the time then! What prompted the change to its current state? (When unbugged of course.)

While this is purely speculation, I would say they changed the passive (which they actually did even before release), because it was too strong and had the potential to run wild. Especially in PvP, with sneak attacks being crits and the sneaky stab stab passive 10% invis dmg bonus, that could have let to some crazy oneshots. (Even more so now with impen changed).