Is eso better on pc or console reasons why

dday3six

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

navyspeed wrote: »

*PC players have a severe superiority complex.
*Console players are smarter and have longer arms.

Real summary. If you enjoy playing games on the consoles then you won't be disappointed with it. If you enjoy playing on PC you will likely enjoy the game on PC. Either way you won't be disappointed with the game; it plays well on consoles as well as the PC. I prefer my console because that is what I am accustomed to and I don't like to play games on PC.

It does not play as well on console as it does on PC. I've played both

I think some people forget too that addon add features that would be a part most of MMORPGS by default. Damage Numbers, Effects Trackers, Enemy HP % visible, etc. The game has DPS checks in boss mechanics, phase changes based on health left, multiple effects to manage, and execute that interact with remaining health, and so on. It has one half and not the other.

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

PC.

Please don't bother with Console.

If you're just a casual player, Console is fine, but if you're going to be competitive in the end, want the best gear, min/max, all that crap — pick PC.

Lol okay buddy, there's plenty of casuals on both, and your hardcore PC players are too dependant on your add-ons to be quite honest. I do like the combat text but that's coming to console anyways.

Combat addons don't play for you, that's a common misconception. Most of the features would be standard and default in any other MMORPG. The pop ups for 'Potion Ready', 'Ultimate Ready', and 'Execute Now' would be the typically type of addons, along with parsers. However even those are starting to surface as default features. Everything else such as effect timers, damage numbers, enemy health %, visible resource numbers are not hidden from players in most other games.

The truth is not that PC players are dependant on addons, but rather ZOS left half the info invisible while having the functions of multiple effects to manage, bosses with DPS check mechanics, and skills that react to health values still in game.

I have literally heard a PC player say he doesn't know if the boss is in execute range because he didn't have his add-on on. That's pretty dependant to me

'To Know' is a certainty. Players guess on console.

If I gave you a standard sheet of notebook paper and a pair a scissors. Then asked you to cut it in squares measuring exactly 1 US inch (2.54cm) without the use a of a ruler. Chances are you could come close, knowing roughly what an inch is, but not presicely so.

That is the difference. Seeing a bosses HP percentage is the ruler. A player can guess and get close but not executing right when the boss is in range is a DPS loss. That matters when the game has mechanics that are DPS checks.

RizaHawkeye

PC for the win:

Add-ons. Check. I particularly like the one that tells me to get up once in awhile and go to the bathroom.

Visual clarity. Check. Sometimes I turn the lights off and Sheogorath seems to be talking just to me. Just ... to ... me ....

Easy of Installation. Check. But then I do have an advantage: I read and understand English. And my keyboard is even color coded!!

(Honestly, the last game it took me hours to install was Oblivion with FCOM and over 36 gigs of mods.)

Rampeal wrote: »

...I don't know guess its just me. I grew up when games did not have add ons and you got by with your wit and will.

Right. And you had to walk uphill both ways to the computer store to buy a CD-ROM! And you played on CRT monitors and YOU LIKED IT!!!

And if you had to got to the bathroom, the outhouse was 50 yards away. In the snow! Year-round!

EDIT: I knew I could find it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbU4Cb4A4-o

Recremen

Thanks to generalized systems with an enormous third-party software market, general purpose computers will always have the edge on consoles, unless a console company somehow manages to patent a software idea, as opposed to a specific instance of that idea. That goes against current practice in software patenting, however, so we can continue to enjoy things like 3rd-party chat voice programs, text chat, addons, and a UI that doesn't require as much effort as an optic telegraph system just to check your mail.

JamieAubrey

ADDONS

PinoZino

tplink3r1 wrote: »

LOL
I don't think i ever spent more than 5 minutes to "tune" the game to my machine. I just install, set all to max, and enjoy the game.

And why not? If you enjoy it that way, it's your life and choice. I don't think I have the power to change it
But hell, I admit I'm a bit nerdy in such stuff. I go to the bone.

I don't dislike setting up the best configuration as possible. But the consequence is that it takes some time to set it up.
The standard settings are usual ok, but if you want that bit more...

It's personal as well. Some people want all the details and don't mind a little lag, while others prefer speed above detail.

Last Sunday I spend an entire day to find the best configuration for a certain car on a specific track in Project Cars.
Most people would not do that. It's even possible they would find my behaviour a bit weird. lol

Shunravi

PinoZino wrote: »

tplink3r1 wrote: »

LOL
I don't think i ever spent more than 5 minutes to "tune" the game to my machine. I just install, set all to max, and enjoy the game.

And why not? If you enjoy it that way, it's your life and choice. I don't think I have the power to change it
But hell, I admit I'm a bit nerdy in such stuff. I go to the bone.

I don't dislike setting up the best configuration as possible. But the consequence is that it takes some time to set it up.
The standard settings are usual ok, but if you want that bit more...

It's personal as well. Some people want all the details and don't mind a little lag, while others prefer speed above detail.

Last Sunday I spend an entire day to find the best configuration for a certain car on a specific track in Project Cars.
Most people would not do that. It's even possible they would find my behaviour a bit weird. lol

Naw... its not weird. Unless you state your preference for a platform where there is little choice in it, then yea. Well, unless that preference is because you get OCD about it or whatever term would fit, and are trying to avoid it.

Ur cunfuzin meh!

ok, i'll admit i spend a good deal of time messing with things like ENB. but again, that's my choice. i can plug and play or nitpick all i want.

Flameheart

Concerning the "time" you have to invest to tweak a PC setup...if you have a Nvidia card run Geforce Experience -> done.

I was astonished myself how well this tool found the ideal setup for ESO. I usually tweak stuff myself and it's no annoyence for me and this tool might not work for every game, but for ESO it worked great. The tool suggested to set resolution to a higher value as native (2560×1440) by Nvidia downsampling. All I can say is the game runs even smoother now.

Asherons_Call

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

MMORPG's are ALWAYS better on a PC. Plus, 90% of the console community are kids. 90% of kids are whiney little ***.

Okay this is completely incorrect, and I didn't want to go here but this comment merits it. When it comes to the community, The console community is way more mature, this isn't even debatable. I think I know the reason why though.

It's because on PC you communicate via text, and just like what you see on the forums, when someone is hiding behind a keyboard they tend to get a bit rude. Now I'm not saying this kind of behavior is absent from the console version but it is certainly less frequent.

Right... Like the teenagers in daggerfall on voice chat in front of the fountain on a Friday night. Those guys are super mature. So mature that I turn off my only communication tool

Waffennacht

I wish we had the add ons. I wish I could see how much damage I do. I wish I had text chat.

I wish I had a PC.

I do enjoy eso on the console. Im sure its not the preferred method

BlueCottontail

I've played both but I'm a console gamer by nature - so I found the combat a bit more fluid on a controller. The add ons would be cool but the game is so huge and has so much already that I'm entertained. So for me its console.

AFrostWolf

PCMR. That's all you really need to know.

Cillion3117

I started on PC but made the jump to console for the graphics. My PC wasn't the greatest and I just didn't have the cash to get it up to par. I found the controls on console to be more fluid and smoother for me and I'm glad I made the jump.

Cadbury

AFrostWolf wrote: »

PCMR. That's all you really need to know.

Best Reddit forum ever.

Rampeal

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

MMORPG's are ALWAYS better on a PC. Plus, 90% of the console community are kids. 90% of kids are whiney little ***.

Okay this is completely incorrect, and I didn't want to go here but this comment merits it. When it comes to the community, The console community is way more mature, this isn't even debatable. I think I know the reason why though.

It's because on PC you communicate via text, and just like what you see on the forums, when someone is hiding behind a keyboard they tend to get a bit rude. Now I'm not saying this kind of behavior is absent from the console version but it is certainly less frequent.

Right... Like the teenagers in daggerfall on voice chat in front of the fountain on a Friday night. Those guys are super mature. So mature that I turn off my only communication tool

I would honestly deal with that over all the text ad popping up. "Go buy gold and motifs for cheap at www.scamatron.com". Or walking into the nearest city inn and the wall of people sexting each other. And worst of all the Meter Maids and so called Elite spamming text about their L33t skills and how the game is too easy for them, even though they have like 30 add ons that make the game so easy they can use a broke wii remote and still win.

So yes I would say the PC community is way more of a cesspool than the consoles. I would rather deal with whiney kids blasting music rather than deal with whiney egotistical adults with superiority complex that lead them to believe that they are some master race (which I remind everyone was meant as a insult but people glorify even though the term stems from the *** party} that is better than everyone even other PC gamers because they spent a huge chunk of money on a rig.

Belidos

dday3six wrote: »

Then asked you to cut it in squares measuring exactly 1 US inch (2.54cm) without the use a of a ruler.

Pft, I prefer the true inch, which is measured by the length of three grains of barley, dry and round, placed end to end lengthwise

Pallmor

"Better" is whatever is more fun for any given player. The PC has add-ons and better graphics above 1080p. Console ESO has built-in voice chat, ease of use, and controller support (though the PC will soon have controller support too). Console is way more "couch friendly" and generally has a larger population (based on my experience, anyway). The PC has text-chat and more guild management tools, which makes it easier to find groups and manage guilds.

Personally, I play on PS4. I used to play on PC, but I prefer controller play and I like the built-in voice-chat and ease of use of the console.

Don't listen to all the fanboys who want to claim the inherent "superiority" of their preference. The best ESO version is the one that's most fun for YOU.

Shunravi

Pallmor wrote: »

Don't listen to all the fanboys who want to claim the inherent "superiority" of their preference. The best ESO version is the one that's most fun for YOU.

This

Pallmor

Cadbury wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

It doesn't matter what game it is.. the PC version will always outshine console. An unfortunate but true reality as consoles are only the bare bones version made to tailor to casual players. The problem comes in when you get old school daily players that went from PC to console and expect a PC experience and get much less than what they expect.

The hardware in modern consoles nowadays is similar to that of a PC so there is little reason for this kind of discrepancy. There has only been one console game to date that I've played that can hold a candle to the PC version and that is ffxiv. Square enix did an amazing job making sure all platforms were on equal footing

Preach it, brother! Squenix really went back to the drawing board and relaunched FFXIV into a MMO that's hard to beat. Personally, its the only MMO out now that shows that a sub-based MMO can work.

I was interested in trying out FFXIV on console until I started reading the reviews. It sounds like they just lazily ported over the PC version with no thought to the customization needed for a console port. The UI is hard to read on a TV, there is no built in voice chat, etc. I'm sorry, but when players have to resort to using Skype on their cellphones just to communicate in groups, you have failed in your console port. There is really no reason to play FFXIV unless you can do it on PC.

vamp_emily

a.skelton92 wrote: »

MMORPG's are ALWAYS better on a PC. Plus, 90% of the console community are kids. 90% of kids are whiney little ***.

[ smiles ]

I said that about the older community. My post was deleted and I received a firm warning.

Shunravi

vamp_emily wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

MMORPG's are ALWAYS better on a PC. Plus, 90% of the console community are kids. 90% of kids are whiney little ***.

[ smiles ]

I said that about the older community. My post was deleted and I received a firm warning.

Well, you see, its not actually generational. 90% of people are whiny.

Strider_Roshin

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

MMORPG's are ALWAYS better on a PC. Plus, 90% of the console community are kids. 90% of kids are whiney little ***.

Okay this is completely incorrect, and I didn't want to go here but this comment merits it. When it comes to the community, The console community is way more mature, this isn't even debatable. I think I know the reason why though.

It's because on PC you communicate via text, and just like what you see on the forums, when someone is hiding behind a keyboard they tend to get a bit rude. Now I'm not saying this kind of behavior is absent from the console version but it is certainly less frequent.

Right... Like the teenagers in daggerfall on voice chat in front of the fountain on a Friday night. Those guys are super mature. So mature that I turn off my only communication tool

Your comment suggested you don't read responses entirely before responding, so I bolded the part of my statement that makes your comment unnecessary.

Hint: click on show previous quote

Strider_Roshin

dday3six wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

navyspeed wrote: »

*PC players have a severe superiority complex.
*Console players are smarter and have longer arms.

Real summary. If you enjoy playing games on the consoles then you won't be disappointed with it. If you enjoy playing on PC you will likely enjoy the game on PC. Either way you won't be disappointed with the game; it plays well on consoles as well as the PC. I prefer my console because that is what I am accustomed to and I don't like to play games on PC.

It does not play as well on console as it does on PC. I've played both

I think some people forget too that addon add features that would be a part most of MMORPGS by default. Damage Numbers, Effects Trackers, Enemy HP % visible, etc. The game has DPS checks in boss mechanics, phase changes based on health left, multiple effects to manage, and execute that interact with remaining health, and so on. It has one half and not the other.

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

PC.

Please don't bother with Console.

If you're just a casual player, Console is fine, but if you're going to be competitive in the end, want the best gear, min/max, all that crap — pick PC.

Lol okay buddy, there's plenty of casuals on both, and your hardcore PC players are too dependant on your add-ons to be quite honest. I do like the combat text but that's coming to console anyways.

Combat addons don't play for you, that's a common misconception. Most of the features would be standard and default in any other MMORPG. The pop ups for 'Potion Ready', 'Ultimate Ready', and 'Execute Now' would be the typically type of addons, along with parsers. However even those are starting to surface as default features. Everything else such as effect timers, damage numbers, enemy health %, visible resource numbers are not hidden from players in most other games.

The truth is not that PC players are dependant on addons, but rather ZOS left half the info invisible while having the functions of multiple effects to manage, bosses with DPS check mechanics, and skills that react to health values still in game.

I have literally heard a PC player say he doesn't know if the boss is in execute range because he didn't have his add-on on. That's pretty dependant to me

'To Know' is a certainty. Players guess on console.

If I gave you a standard sheet of notebook paper and a pair a scissors. Then asked you to cut it in squares measuring exactly 1 US inch (2.54cm) without the use a of a ruler. Chances are you could come close, knowing roughly what an inch is, but not presicely so.

That is the difference. Seeing a bosses HP percentage is the ruler. A player can guess and get close but not executing right when the boss is in range is a DPS loss. That matters when the game has mechanics that are DPS checks.

And it's that ability to pay attention that will make you a better player. I've never heard of someone becoming more intelligent by thinking less.

navyspeed

Asherons_Call wrote: »

navyspeed wrote: »

*PC players have a severe superiority complex.
*Console players are smarter and have longer arms.

Real summary. If you enjoy playing games on the consoles then you won't be disappointed with it. If you enjoy playing on PC you will likely enjoy the game on PC. Either way you won't be disappointed with the game; it plays well on consoles as well as the PC. I prefer my console because that is what I am accustomed to and I don't like to play games on PC.

It does not play as well on console as it does on PC. I've played both

That is your opinion. I don't like playing on PC so to me PC does not play as well as console. Facts and opinions are two separate things.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

My XBox never lags and I don't need add ons.

DaveMoeDee

PinoZino wrote: »

medieval_TOG wrote: »

PC - afterall it's good to be a member of the masterrace.

Depends. Many people opt for more user-friendly and more balance above power, flexibility and functionality.

There's a reason why many PC players jumped to the Console version. Some regretted the jump, but some don't at all.

There is no 'master race', it's like you want.

I've seen the console UI and it does NOT look more user friendly. The menus look painfully slow to use.

And if the consoles are more user-friendly, why do we hear so many console players upset about the UI missing something that everyone has on the PC through addons?

Plus, the PC will have the option for the console UI in a few weeks.

Belidos

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

My XBox never lags and I don't need add ons.

No, you don't have add ons, you could sure as hell do with some to make the game more playable though

DaveMoeDee

Belidos wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

My XBox never lags and I don't need add ons.

No, you don't have add ons, you could sure as hell do with some to make the game more playable though

And since when is playing video games about "need".

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Belidos wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

My XBox never lags and I don't need add ons.

No, you don't have add ons, you could sure as hell do with some to make the game more playable though

Says who? All the info I ever needed in battle is already on the screen in the form of health bars. While some updates to things like the guild bank would be welcome, please elaborate on what is "needed" for combat that we don't have?

Artjuh90

If the a game needs Add-ons there is somthing wrong with the core of the game to begin with. i would like to see how mutch damage i do and don't get me started over text chat what should be a must in any MMO. but i do prefer the xboxone over PC just cause it plays beter with a controler for me

NobleNerd

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

PinoZino wrote: »

medieval_TOG wrote: »

PC - afterall it's good to be a member of the masterrace.

Depends. Many people opt for more user-friendly and more balance above power, flexibility and functionality.

There's a reason why many PC players jumped to the Console version. Some regretted the jump, but some don't at all.

There is no 'master race', it's like you want.

I've seen the console UI and it does NOT look more user friendly. The menus look painfully slow to use.

And if the consoles are more user-friendly, why do we hear so many console players upset about the UI missing something that everyone has on the PC through addons?

Plus, the PC will have the option for the console UI in a few weeks.

Agreed. I also have tested the gamepad support for PC and it is very lacking in performance and usability for me.