The Failstrom Arena

Cuyler · October 2015

The PvE grouping is already slow as hell because no one wants to do the old Trials, WGT and ICP are ridiculous gear grinds with a high learning curve for veteran, and most vet players saved their keys last patch and got there new shoulders (so no pledges). I seen it deteriorate slowly since the IC DLC released and even now the game is dead slow cause most players on the pts...

How much worse can it get?! oh yeah...there's a new solo arena that everyone is going to be playing in a month. Want a group for trials? naw I'm going to be in Maelstrom....want to WGT? naw I'll be in Maelstrom.

Point is....this is the kind of content you release in a mmo when your game is healthy, or in conjunction with group content, not when your players are struggling to get consistent groups together. This was supposed to be an MMO....starting to feel like Elder Scrolls 6. Shame really. I just hope there still some people left to group with when Failstrom is released. It's great content don't get me wrong....but horrible timing as usual by ZOS.

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edits: there-->their, grammar

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this thread are mine alone and do not reflect the position of any of my guilds. Assumptions made here are not reflective of the position of any guild unless explicitly stated.

i3ig_Gun · October 2015

I love the Maelstrom Arena Idea, thats where ill be.

Bfish22090 · October 2015

What's wrong with getting v12 gear from trials?

PBpsy · October 2015

I kind of agree and disagree at the same moment. I love the idea of the arena and I would like to have more options for solo end game pve. Solo vet mode for all arenas pls.This is not because I dislike group pve. It's just because the amount of effort required to find a group these days kind of makes me log off immediately after I log on each night.

This will make me spend more time in ESO..

Cuyler · October 2015

tyler_spearsb14_ESO wrote: »

I love the Maelstrom Arena Idea, thats where ill be.

I like the "idea" too

it's the "how" that is concerning. When the only thing new to do in your MMO is solo content...and most of your players are playing solo by themselves....will this game still feel like your playing an MMO?

Cuyler · October 2015

Bfish22090 wrote: »

What's wrong with getting v12 gear from trials?

Don't get me going moar lol....have you seen how many groups did the weekly this week so far? laughable

ItsRejectz · October 2015

Stop moaning ffs

freespirit · October 2015

What about the two new Public Dungeons that come with Orsinium, aren't they group content?

Having said that I do think something seriously needs addressing with the level of the current Trials.........

Not having endgame, max level, 12 man content is pretty ridiculous!!

LostRedden · October 2015

You realize that you'll be able to do cross alliance grouping for dungeons and such with the release of Orsinium right? And if you really wanted to you could create your own guild and recruit like minded individuals.

TheBull · October 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

The PvE grouping is already slow as hell because no one wants to do the old Trials, WGT and ICP are ridiculous gear grinds with a high learning curve for veteran, and most vet players saved there keys last patch and got there new shoulders (so no pledges). I seen it deteriorate slowly since the IC DLC released and even now the game is dead slow cause most players on the pts...

How much worse can it get?! oh yeah...there's a new solo arena that everyone is going to be playing in a month. Want a group for trials? naw I'm going to be in Maelstrom....want to WGT? naw I'll be in Maelstrom.

Point is....this is the kind of content you release in a mmo when your game is healthy, or in conjunction with group content, not when your players are struggling to get consistent groups together. This was supposed to be an MMO....starting to feel like Elder Scrolls 6. Shame really. I just hope there still some people left to group with when Failstrom is released. It's great content don't get me wrong....but horrible timing as usual by ZOS.

/end rant

ESO is healthy. No one wants to do trials because there is no reward. That's why you are having trouble finding groups. Vet IC and WGT are just to tough to do without communication or and/or well experienced group. That's why you can't find a pug for either.

I do agree with what you are saying will happen when the arena is introduced though. Guilds will be on TS in the solo arena. I think the timing of the arena may be questionable, but it is an awesome piece of content.

Cuyler · October 2015

TheBull wrote: »

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Cuyler wrote: »

The PvE grouping is already slow as hell because no one wants to do the old Trials, WGT and ICP are ridiculous gear grinds with a high learning curve for veteran, and most vet players saved there keys last patch and got there new shoulders (so no pledges). I seen it deteriorate slowly since the IC DLC released and even now the game is dead slow cause most players on the pts...

How much worse can it get?! oh yeah...there's a new solo arena that everyone is going to be playing in a month. Want a group for trials? naw I'm going to be in Maelstrom....want to WGT? naw I'll be in Maelstrom.

Point is....this is the kind of content you release in a mmo when your game is healthy, or in conjunction with group content, not when your players are struggling to get consistent groups together. This was supposed to be an MMO....starting to feel like Elder Scrolls 6. Shame really. I just hope there still some people left to group with when Failstrom is released. It's great content don't get me wrong....but horrible timing as usual by ZOS.

/end rant

ESO is healthy. No one wants to do trials because there is no reward. That's why you are having trouble finding groups. Vet IC and WGT are just to tough to do without communication or and/or well experienced group. That's why you can't find a pug for either.

I do agree with what you are saying will happen when the arena is introduced though. Guilds will be on TS in the solo arena. I think the timing of the arena may be questionable, but it is an awesome piece of content.

No offense. thank you for your opinion...but upon reading it you start by saying ESO is healthy, then follow up with how unhealthy it really

is.

NativeJoe · October 2015

Yes maelstrom will be a thing. but to even complete it you need a purge( rank 5 pvp for classes without it) and some undaunted passives (more hp and stats) to get through it. Now here' is the thing that is going to nullify your worries ALOT... with the cp catch up system working up to 338 points and the CURRENT average of 94 CP for the population that is activly playing the game on pc...your going to see a HUGE increase in the Quality of players. which means they'll be doing dungeons and feel fairly confident. just think about it. plus everyone needs skill points from there etc

Cuyler · October 2015

LostRedden wrote: »

You realize that you'll be able to do cross alliance grouping for dungeons and such with the release of Orsinium right? And if you really wanted to you could create your own guild and recruit like minded individuals.

Easier said than done my friend...especially to get experienced trials competent players I don't have to train for a month (so few left). Don't forget the new gear literally forces us to the arena for the grind. Do we have a choice if we want new BiS gears? Are trials going to be cross faction? I can't remember saying so.

Callous2208 · October 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

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TheBull wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

The PvE grouping is already slow as hell because no one wants to do the old Trials, WGT and ICP are ridiculous gear grinds with a high learning curve for veteran, and most vet players saved there keys last patch and got there new shoulders (so no pledges). I seen it deteriorate slowly since the IC DLC released and even now the game is dead slow cause most players on the pts...

How much worse can it get?! oh yeah...there's a new solo arena that everyone is going to be playing in a month. Want a group for trials? naw I'm going to be in Maelstrom....want to WGT? naw I'll be in Maelstrom.

Point is....this is the kind of content you release in a mmo when your game is healthy, or in conjunction with group content, not when your players are struggling to get consistent groups together. This was supposed to be an MMO....starting to feel like Elder Scrolls 6. Shame really. I just hope there still some people left to group with when Failstrom is released. It's great content don't get me wrong....but horrible timing as usual by ZOS.

/end rant

ESO is healthy. No one wants to do trials because there is no reward. That's why you are having trouble finding groups. Vet IC and WGT are just to tough to do without communication or and/or well experienced group. That's why you can't find a pug for either.

I do agree with what you are saying will happen when the arena is introduced though. Guilds will be on TS in the solo arena. I think the timing of the arena may be questionable, but it is an awesome piece of content.

No offense. thank you for your opinion...but upon reading it you start by saying ESO is healthy, then follow up with how unhealthy it really is.

I think he was correct in his assertion. ESO overall is healthy, those trials and that part of the game currently is not.

BippNasty · October 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

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tyler_spearsb14_ESO wrote: »

I love the Maelstrom Arena Idea, thats where ill be.

I like the "idea" too it's the "how" that is concerning. When the only thing new to do in your MMO is solo content...and most of your players are playing solo by themselves....will this game still feel like your playing an MMO?

The only part of the add on that's solo is the arena. You can still group in the entire questing area and in the new dungeons. In fact the new area is the largest area in the game yet.How Is one solo arena going to make the entire game feel solo or "not like an mmo" as you describe.

Cuyler · October 2015

NativeJoe wrote: »

Yes maelstrom will be a thing. but to even complete it you need a purge( rank 5 pvp for classes without it) and some undaunted passives (more hp and stats) to get through it. Now here' is the thing that is going to nullify your worries ALOT... with the cp catch up system working up to 338 points and the CURRENT average of 94 CP for the population that is activly playing the game on pc...your going to see a HUGE increase in the Quality of players. which means they'll be doing dungeons and feel fairly confident. just think about it. plus everyone needs skill points from there etc

While I agree with time players will get better. There is currently a mitigation bug with Orsinium I think which is the only reason it is so difficult atm. Should be fixed Monday and most should be clearing it. Good points tho thank

you

Cuyler · October 2015

BippNasty wrote: »

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Cuyler wrote: »

tyler_spearsb14_ESO wrote: »

I love the Maelstrom Arena Idea, thats where ill be.

I like the "idea" too it's the "how" that is concerning. When the only thing new to do in your MMO is solo content...and most of your players are playing solo by themselves....will this game still feel like your playing an MMO?

The only part of the add on that's solo is the arena. You can still group in the entire questing area and in the new dungeons. In fact the new area is the largest area in the game yet.How Is one solo arena going to make the entire game feel solo or "not like an mmo" as you describe.

Because the gear everyone wants is in the arena, not doing the quests. If you're a player worth your salt in trials...you'll be grinding for maelstrom weapons instead

Cuyler · October 2015

freespirit wrote: »

What about the two new Public Dungeons that come with Orsinium, aren't they group content?

lol, solo content

Cuyler · October 2015

@ZOS_RichLambert what's the word on the next Trial? or scaling them

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

Rook_Master · October 2015

You think no one will be around for groups, just wait until Fallout 4 drops a week later...

Prof_Bawbag · October 2015

I'm mostly a PvE/loner type. That's not to say I never group, however, I think both IC and the upcoming dlc could have catered towards those that like to PvE in peace and those who like to group and PvP. For example, having two quest givers at the Arena - one giving the quests as they're currently set up and another allowing people to group or duel. As for the IC, giving the PvE players a little something such as one group dungeon without the threat of running into PvP players. Not much give either way, but it would have at least given everyone a little bit of something from each dlc.

UrQuan · October 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

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TheBull wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

The PvE grouping is already slow as hell because no one wants to do the old Trials, WGT and ICP are ridiculous gear grinds with a high learning curve for veteran, and most vet players saved there keys last patch and got there new shoulders (so no pledges). I seen it deteriorate slowly since the IC DLC released and even now the game is dead slow cause most players on the pts...

How much worse can it get?! oh yeah...there's a new solo arena that everyone is going to be playing in a month. Want a group for trials? naw I'm going to be in Maelstrom....want to WGT? naw I'll be in Maelstrom.

Point is....this is the kind of content you release in a mmo when your game is healthy, or in conjunction with group content, not when your players are struggling to get consistent groups together. This was supposed to be an MMO....starting to feel like Elder Scrolls 6. Shame really. I just hope there still some people left to group with when Failstrom is released. It's great content don't get me wrong....but horrible timing as usual by ZOS.

/end rant

ESO is healthy. No one wants to do trials because there is no reward. That's why you are having trouble finding groups. Vet IC and WGT are just to tough to do without communication or and/or well experienced group. That's why you can't find a pug for either.

I do agree with what you are saying will happen when the arena is introduced though. Guilds will be on TS in the solo arena. I think the timing of the arena may be questionable, but it is an awesome piece of content.

No offense. thank you for your opinion...but upon reading it you start by saying ESO is healthy, then follow up with how unhealthy it really is.

Equating the state of a couple of specific pieces of group content with the health of the game is quite a leap. Those parts of ESO may not be healthy (and I wouldn't even agree with that as far as vet IC and vet WGT - those are just challenging and something that you want to get an experienced group for rather than a PUG - that doesn't make them unhealthy), but that doesn't mean the game as a whole isn't healthy.

ZOS_RichLambert · October 2015

@NativeJoe - you don't need a purge to complete the arena at all. The "purge level" you are referring to actually has a bug in it where you can purge instead of using the mechanic of the arena.

@Cuyler - We're working on a new trial. Let us get Orsinium released on live before we start talking future DLC in more detail.

Molag_Crow · October 2015

Cuyler · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy. So ooooo just wait for the game to get moar boring cause everyone going to be soloing.....right. Do you even realize how long we waited just for wgt and icp? at this rate we'll have seen two new group dungeons and 1 solo arena in 1.5 years ha. just keep waiting right

CP5 · October 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

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UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy

Or someone who is just pointing out the situation as it is.

JD2013 · October 2015

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

@NativeJoe - you don't need a purge to complete the arena at all. The "purge level" you are referring to actually has a bug in it where you can purge instead of using the mechanic of the arena.

@Cuyler - We're working on a new trial. Let us get Orsinium released on live before we start talking future DLC in more detail.

But everyone around here must have everything they want now or not at all! /s

Calm down guys. New trials are coming.

Cuyler wrote: »

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UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy

People are allowed to like the game, you know. It's not illegal.

Cuyler · October 2015

CP5 wrote: »

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Cuyler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy

Or someone who is just pointing out the situation as it is.

JD2013 wrote: »

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ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

@NativeJoe - you don't need a purge to complete the arena at all. The "purge level" you are referring to actually has a bug in it where you can purge instead of using the mechanic of the arena.

@Cuyler - We're working on a new trial. Let us get Orsinium released on live before we start talking future DLC in more detail.

But everyone around here must have everything they want now or not at all! /s

Calm down guys. New trials are coming.
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Cuyler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy

People are allowed to like the game, you know. It's not illegal.

naw all you guys need a reality check is all see below. not like I want it now....just want it in the next year AND I like the game.....but I just want to point out I can call ppl names too....childish right? cry baby..fanboy...just a easy and lazy way to make a point without thinking

Cuyler wrote: »

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UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy. So ooooo just wait for the game to get moar boring cause everyone going to be soloing.....right. Do you even realize how long we waited just for wgt and icp? at this rate we'll have seen two new group dungeons and 1 solo arena in 1.5 years ha. just keep waiting right

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

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UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy. So ooooo just wait for the game to get moar boring cause everyone going to be soloing.....right. Do you even realize how long we waited just for wgt and icp? at this rate we'll have seen two new group dungeons and 1 solo arena in 1.5 years ha. just keep waiting right

Your retort is invalid, as is your argument. This game is not made for just you, you know.

JD2013 · October 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

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CP5 wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy

Or someone who is just pointing out the situation as it is.

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JD2013 wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

@NativeJoe - you don't need a purge to complete the arena at all. The "purge level" you are referring to actually has a bug in it where you can purge instead of using the mechanic of the arena.

@Cuyler - We're working on a new trial. Let us get Orsinium released on live before we start talking future DLC in more detail.

But everyone around here must have everything they want now or not at all! /s

Calm down guys. New trials are coming.

Cuyler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy

People are allowed to like the game, you know. It's not illegal.

naw all you guys need a reality check is all see below. not like I want it now....just want it in the next year
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Cuyler wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Ok first of all it's only been 2 or 3 days and already someone is complaining? Well don't worry Zenimax not everyone in your playerbase is a crybaby.

Secondly people have been wanting more soloable PvE for max level or close since Craglorn and Cyrodiil don't quite foot that bill.

Thirdly Zenimax already stated that a trial is scheduled for release in a future update after Orsinium is released so chillax.

^fanboy. So ooooo just wait for the game to get moar boring cause everyone going to be soloing.....right. Do you even realize how long we waited just for wgt and icp? at this rate we'll have seen two new group dungeons and 1 solo arena in 1.5 years ha. just keep waiting right

Then if you dislike the game so much and call anyone who likes the game a fanboy, why stay?