This is why we need gated access.

VincentBlanquin

no realistic way out of this mess. You wanna pvp, rather pvp in other game and look back for Orsinium and hope for -

1. Zos dont bring only pve DLC but also rework pvp rewards both cyrodiil and imp city to be on par with Orsinium rewards (rewards of the worthy, AP based). Turn TV stones into AP. Delete TV stones and trophy vaults from the game. Zos update Imp city to have some pvp mechanics, unless it will be ghost town)
2. all campaign are gated and rewards are more frequently at Imp city
3. rework CP to have weaker stats and much easier to get when you have a few
4. rework Bow tree to archers to be more viable at 1v1
5. these and i will stay at the game for sure

Minno

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

I'd wager if you can gear yourself in that time frame, you are a hardcore player.

Us semi's don't have the luxury, hours, and/or sometimes clears minds after 12+ work hours/personal lives to dedicate to the game.

Other people can. Doesn't mean you had to call him out on it.

reften

Gated access is a joke. I'd be gone if forced to take keeps just to farm some mats.

IC is strickly a mat farm, shame shame. Put some scrolls down there, or make taking down Molag Bol give AP towards winning the campaign.

Or put some flags in some of the bigger rooms that if held for 10 minutes, gives your alliance points.

Something, other than a mat farm area.

WRX

Minno wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

I'd wager if you can gear yourself in that time frame, you are a hardcore player.

Us semi's don't have the luxury, hours, and/or sometimes clears minds after 12+ work hours/personal lives to dedicate to the game.

Other people can. Doesn't mean you had to call him out on it.

I didn't intend to make it sound like I am calling him out. However, if you have several weeks of time to gear up, and you still are not geared, I do believe that is mostly the exception. I could understand one week, and even two weeks, but if you are a "semi-hardcore" player, any longer is contradictory.

And beyond that, I still feel it needed to discuss how many players are geared. I would wager the vast majority of v14 players pre-patch are v16 and geared today.

Diamond_10

WRX wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

Says the dude whos been hiding in Chillrend sewers for weeks killing pve players with his guild instead of playing on the big campaigns.

Says the dude who is totally out of touch with a player base?

If you have seen me in cyrodiil in the past month+, that would be really interesting because I have not logged on my account at all.

I saw you mention Decibel in another thread too, and ignored it. From my understanding we are inactive. But we also are mostly still connected and if you keep spouting this nonsense would be happy to show up and really *** your day.

Keep us out of your mouth and learn what you are talking about.

Ah you havent logged on in over a month yet you know where your guild has been playing? lol
It is/was decibel in IC sewers the past weeks on Chillrend. Deny it all you like, the player names in that group dont lie.
BTW please log on and beat your chest, youll soon wonder why they were there too. Obviously dodging pvp guilds like ours who already ran you off the campaign once, so yeah bring it back to Azuras, we are still here and will run you off it back to a pve server again.

Minno

WRX wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

I'd wager if you can gear yourself in that time frame, you are a hardcore player.

Us semi's don't have the luxury, hours, and/or sometimes clears minds after 12+ work hours/personal lives to dedicate to the game.

Other people can. Doesn't mean you had to call him out on it.

I didn't intend to make it sound like I am calling him out. However, if you have several weeks of time to gear up, and you still are not geared, I do believe that is mostly the exception. I could understand one week, and even two weeks, but if you are a "semi-hardcore" player, any longer is contradictory.

And beyond that, I still feel it needed to discuss how many players are geared. I would wager the vast majority of v14 players pre-patch are v16 and geared today.

You should be vr15 purple., non exception. But expectation for vr16 (100 mats per armor slot if crafting) at legendary in less than several weeks is a little bit too much if you only have between the times of 7pm and 12am to squeeze in both gearing and actual fun pvp.

Hence the semi- tag.

And apologies if I read your original post as super negative when it wasn't.

Takllin

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

Says the dude whos been hiding in Chillrend sewers for weeks killing pve players with his guild instead of playing on the big campaigns.

Says the dude who is totally out of touch with a player base?

If you have seen me in cyrodiil in the past month+, that would be really interesting because I have not logged on my account at all.

I saw you mention Decibel in another thread too, and ignored it. From my understanding we are inactive. But we also are mostly still connected and if you keep spouting this nonsense would be happy to show up and really *** your day.

Keep us out of your mouth and learn what you are talking about.

Ah you havent logged on in over a month yet you know where your guild has been playing? lol
It is/was decibel in IC sewers the past weeks on Chillrend. Deny it all you like, the player names in that group dont lie.
BTW please log on and beat your chest, youll soon wonder why they were there too. Obviously dodging pvp guilds like ours who already ran you off the campaign once, so yeah bring it back to Azuras, we are still here and will run you off it back to a pve server again.

LOL Ignorance is bliss. What guild are you even in?

@WRX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfSoaJxe3Y

PainfulFAFA

Lmfao that guy is totally asking for an ass whooping

Taonnor

Hey i mean its the Imperial City. To become an emperor you need to control all city districts, instead of the keeps outside.

Xsorus

I play only DC, on the US servers..and this bloody game needs gated access on all servers, You need to close multiple servers, and you need to get rid of bloody guesting.

If you half ass you approach to original DAOC mechanics..guess what Brian..you get half assed results.

The game lacks realm/server pride..This has caused a myriad of issues...and not having Gated access on IC is one of the biggest mistakes i've seen as Darkness Falls in DAOC was a population control mechanic in that game....Getting rid of gated access removes its biggest benefit to the pvp in a game..

FireCowCommando

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

Says the dude whos been hiding in Chillrend sewers for weeks killing pve players with his guild instead of playing on the big campaigns.

Says the dude who is totally out of touch with a player base?

If you have seen me in cyrodiil in the past month+, that would be really interesting because I have not logged on my account at all.

I saw you mention Decibel in another thread too, and ignored it. From my understanding we are inactive. But we also are mostly still connected and if you keep spouting this nonsense would be happy to show up and really *** your day.

Keep us out of your mouth and learn what you are talking about.

Ah you havent logged on in over a month yet you know where your guild has been playing? lol
It is/was decibel in IC sewers the past weeks on Chillrend. Deny it all you like, the player names in that group dont lie.
BTW please log on and beat your chest, youll soon wonder why they were there too. Obviously dodging pvp guilds like ours who already ran you off the campaign once, so yeah bring it back to Azuras, we are still here and will run you off it back to a pve server again.

I feel diamond is attempting to spin an elaborate tale in an attempt to get you to play the game again WRX.

I blame Snu, she probably bribed him to try to bait you with false facts! Sneaky little templar!

DaveMoeDee

Why would gated access matter if the bulk of the server pop are already inside? Why would they care about the state outside?

Stikato

Ugh, what a mess.

Solution is gate all campaigns. There is no other fix.

The people who don't get this, I can understand your concerns.

But this is the only way out. One open campaign will have a queue hours long. Then they will open another open campaign.

This is what happens when you don't stick to your guns. It's completely fubar now.

^^^ responding to above. In a true gated campaign, if you die without access, you must be rezzed to remain in IC.

I just cannot believe all the different compelling gameplay options that got eliminated by this decision, and this update in general. No rooting out enemies in IC. No hiding in enemy held IC. No fighting in Cyrodiil for larger objectives. No more relevant trials. Ugh.

Diamond_10

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

Says the dude whos been hiding in Chillrend sewers for weeks killing pve players with his guild instead of playing on the big campaigns.

Says the dude who is totally out of touch with a player base?

If you have seen me in cyrodiil in the past month+, that would be really interesting because I have not logged on my account at all.

I saw you mention Decibel in another thread too, and ignored it. From my understanding we are inactive. But we also are mostly still connected and if you keep spouting this nonsense would be happy to show up and really *** your day.

Keep us out of your mouth and learn what you are talking about.

Ah you havent logged on in over a month yet you know where your guild has been playing? lol
It is/was decibel in IC sewers the past weeks on Chillrend. Deny it all you like, the player names in that group dont lie.
BTW please log on and beat your chest, youll soon wonder why they were there too. Obviously dodging pvp guilds like ours who already ran you off the campaign once, so yeah bring it back to Azuras, we are still here and will run you off it back to a pve server again.

I feel diamond is attempting to spin an elaborate tale in an attempt to get you to play the game again WRX.

I blame Snu, she probably bribed him to try to bait you with false facts! Sneaky little templar!

god dammit

Makkir

To be honest, the only real viable source of gold farming (income) right now is in Imperial City...namely sewer farming. I am averaging 800k/week playing very casually. For anyone who cares about building up enough bank power to afford the BiS gear for your build, doing anything outside of this is just unproductive.

Price ARE starting to plummet (naturally due to the additional gear in trophy chests, and the fact players have their VR16 crafted gear an no longer need the new mats), and the prices on the new styles/fragments have been on a steady decline.

At some point in time, people who spend time gold farming (like myself) can leave the sewers to our other farm spots once they become viable again. When this happens, I imagine you might see more and more people coming back to Cyrodiil for fights.

Also, if they ever upgrade the AP PvP bags which I think would be a wise idea. People will need to return to Cyrodiil to farm AP (much easier than IC).

Recremen

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

Says the dude whos been hiding in Chillrend sewers for weeks killing pve players with his guild instead of playing on the big campaigns.

Says the dude who is totally out of touch with a player base?

If you have seen me in cyrodiil in the past month+, that would be really interesting because I have not logged on my account at all.

I saw you mention Decibel in another thread too, and ignored it. From my understanding we are inactive. But we also are mostly still connected and if you keep spouting this nonsense would be happy to show up and really *** your day.

Keep us out of your mouth and learn what you are talking about.

Ah you havent logged on in over a month yet you know where your guild has been playing? lol
It is/was decibel in IC sewers the past weeks on Chillrend. Deny it all you like, the player names in that group dont lie.
BTW please log on and beat your chest, youll soon wonder why they were there too. Obviously dodging pvp guilds like ours who already ran you off the campaign once, so yeah bring it back to Azuras, we are still here and will run you off it back to a pve server again.

Yo, please back the heck off, WRX knows what's going on because we've been in some contact with him. As the person who was actually running Decibel groups for the last month, I take serious offence to the idea that we were in Chillrend (a joke PvP campaign) or somehow avoiding fights. We'd been in Trueflame fighting in AND outside the city and getting people geared up. With WRX gone, though, most people were not willing to group and after a month of that, as of this past Sunday I officially called it off. Decibel is no longer an active guild.

So if you saw Decibel players in the Chillrend sewers, it wasn't because we as a guild were there, it was just some members acting on their own. And now you're going to have to learn the new guilds people are in if you want to keep complaining about/accusing us because we've gone our separate ways. You might even need to get off Chillrend and come to a real PvP campaign, but I won't be holding my breath.

Makkir

accounts should have been faction restricted from the get-go.

Rayste

reften wrote: »

Gated access is a joke. I'd be gone if forced to take keeps just to farm some mats.

IC is strickly a mat farm, shame shame. Put some scrolls down there, or make taking down Molag Bol give AP towards winning the campaign.

Or put some flags in some of the bigger rooms that if held for 10 minutes, gives your alliance points.

Something, other than a mat farm area.

YES! Someone who gets it. So shameful that they turned IC into a grind.

DaveMoeDee

Why wouldn't gated access just result in buff servers where each faction has exclusive IC access? At the very least, the most populated faction will get be able to maintain an exclusive IC on one server.

DaveMoeDee

Makkir wrote: »

accounts should have been faction restricted from the get-go.

Perhaps if they didn't restrict races by zone or didn't force you to start your questing in the zones for that faction. With these mechanics, the faction restriction per account is excessive.

Personally, doesn't matter to me. My characters are all DC, for better or worse.

lifefrombelowb14_ESO

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

Oh please please do this. It's bad enough its taking me 4 days just to switch my guest because I was grinding a DC toon on a server my guild wanted to home.

k2blader

How about desirable AP rewards-- set/item pieces of sets people actually want with none of this sturdy crap-- and increasing the frequency of rewards for the worthy mails.

The only reason people are going to IC is because they need to grind mats. The above changes would shift a lot of people out of IC imo. But, I'm not sure Zeni wants that?

Lucky28

I disagree that IC is a bad PvP DLC. I actually think the concept is really great. and in terms of Small scale group PvP IC could be really fun. it's the patch that came with it that killed it (i've said this before) but, the damage reduction, Shield reduction, shield breaker. all these things make players feel like they have to Zerg, and zerging IC is not that fun. i really wish ZOS would look at what they could do to improve the flavor of PvP rather just gate access and things along those lines.

The damage/shield reduction is a poor concept itself. for me, i want to play the characters i built particularly in PvP, i don't want to be gimped. thats why for me, PvP hasn't been all that fun this patch.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Why would gated access matter if the bulk of the server pop are already inside? Why would they care about the state outside?

Well for gated access to be meaningful you should be bootet out of IC if you die and release. Only if a fellow player rez you can you stay.

An alliance can go in and clean out IC once they get access and the players from the other alliances have to group up and fight in Cyrodiil to get access back and then go inside and clean out.

That way you create an interdependent dynamic gameplay between IC and Cyrodiil.

Us old DAoC players actually thought that this was how it was going to work. Instead they made IC a mandatory PvE grindspot where no PvP has any real meaning except for griefers having fun with stealing candy from PvE kids. So IC harmed PvP seriously and made the game a lot more boring for both PvPers and PvPers.

Because of the mandatory PvE mistake (aka as v16) they cannot gate the game now with the demographics of the ESO player base until Orcinium is released. But by then they need to gate IC with the non release inside when you don't have access. And then add serious pvp rewards for goals inside IC.

AbraXuSeXile

From a hardcore pvper, whos put up with crap from all patches.


This game is a mess and a joke.

WRX

Recremen wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

Says the dude whos been hiding in Chillrend sewers for weeks killing pve players with his guild instead of playing on the big campaigns.

Says the dude who is totally out of touch with a player base?

If you have seen me in cyrodiil in the past month+, that would be really interesting because I have not logged on my account at all.

I saw you mention Decibel in another thread too, and ignored it. From my understanding we are inactive. But we also are mostly still connected and if you keep spouting this nonsense would be happy to show up and really *** your day.

Keep us out of your mouth and learn what you are talking about.

Ah you havent logged on in over a month yet you know where your guild has been playing? lol
It is/was decibel in IC sewers the past weeks on Chillrend. Deny it all you like, the player names in that group dont lie.
BTW please log on and beat your chest, youll soon wonder why they were there too. Obviously dodging pvp guilds like ours who already ran you off the campaign once, so yeah bring it back to Azuras, we are still here and will run you off it back to a pve server again.

Yo, please back the heck off, WRX knows what's going on because we've been in some contact with him. As the person who was actually running Decibel groups for the last month, I take serious offence to the idea that we were in Chillrend (a joke PvP campaign) or somehow avoiding fights. We'd been in Trueflame fighting in AND outside the city and getting people geared up. With WRX gone, though, most people were not willing to group and after a month of that, as of this past Sunday I officially called it off. Decibel is no longer an active guild.

So if you saw Decibel players in the Chillrend sewers, it wasn't because we as a guild were there, it was just some members acting on their own. And now you're going to have to learn the new guilds people are in if you want to keep complaining about/accusing us because we've gone our separate ways. You might even need to get off Chillrend and come to a real PvP campaign, but I won't be holding my breath.

#dB

WRX

Takllin wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Diamond_10 wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Brian, are you folks planning to wait on Orsinium before gating access on all the campaigns? I only ask because there are many casuals and even semi-hardcore players(like myself) that simply do not have any of my toons in VR16 gear yet nor am i even close to having enough matts simply because of work and life obligations don't allow us to have 6-10 hours a day to grind in the IPC.

Many casauls and semi-hardcore players would see it as unfair that 10-15% of your game population has been able to grind out all VR16 gear already and then have the access gated barring everyone else from having the same open access to get their gear. This is one of the core problems i saw with openeing access early on and then closing it.

I am hoping that if the Vet level will not go up with the release of Orsinium, that you guys and gals would wait until Orsinium comes before closing off access to the IPC so that way casuals and semi-hardcore players are given the same equal chance to grind their gear as those who have spent a huge amount of time in the IPC currently.

or at the very least have 1 campaign with open access?

If you have been playing this long, and consider yourself a "semi-hardcore" player, how are you not geared? I would say a lot more than 10-15% have gear, and I would even flip that to 85-90% do, if not more.

I played two days and was basically as geared as I was in 1.6.

If I was zos, I would follow mojicans post, close the two campaigns he mentioned (or whatever they see based on data we can not see), and make only one campaign open access. Why you ask I am sure. Well, my friend, let me tell you. We all get to PvP again! Want to be in cyro, great, it has a point again. Want to just go into the IC and farm, great, go to that campaign. Want to just PvP in the IC, go to that campaign.

This change should happen today, and I would be on tonight.

Says the dude whos been hiding in Chillrend sewers for weeks killing pve players with his guild instead of playing on the big campaigns.

Says the dude who is totally out of touch with a player base?

If you have seen me in cyrodiil in the past month+, that would be really interesting because I have not logged on my account at all.

I saw you mention Decibel in another thread too, and ignored it. From my understanding we are inactive. But we also are mostly still connected and if you keep spouting this nonsense would be happy to show up and really *** your day.

Keep us out of your mouth and learn what you are talking about.

Ah you havent logged on in over a month yet you know where your guild has been playing? lol
It is/was decibel in IC sewers the past weeks on Chillrend. Deny it all you like, the player names in that group dont lie.
BTW please log on and beat your chest, youll soon wonder why they were there too. Obviously dodging pvp guilds like ours who already ran you off the campaign once, so yeah bring it back to Azuras, we are still here and will run you off it back to a pve server again.

LOL Ignorance is bliss. What guild are you even in?

@WRX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfSoaJxe3Y

BABY COME BACK

YOU CAN BLAME IT ALLLL ON ME.

Xsorus

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Why would gated access matter if the bulk of the server pop are already inside? Why would they care about the state outside?

Well for gated access to be meaningful you should be bootet out of IC if you die and release. Only if a fellow player rez you can you stay.

An alliance can go in and clean out IC once they get access and the players from the other alliances have to group up and fight in Cyrodiil to get access back and then go inside and clean out.

That way you create an interdependent dynamic gameplay between IC and Cyrodiil.

Us old DAoC players actually thought that this was how it was going to work. Instead they made IC a mandatory PvE grindspot where no PvP has any real meaning except for griefers having fun with stealing candy from PvE kids. So IC harmed PvP seriously and made the game a lot more boring for both PvPers and PvPers.

Because of the mandatory PvE mistake (aka as v16) they cannot gate the game now with the demographics of the ESO player base until Orcinium is released. But by then they need to gate IC with the non release inside when you don't have access. And then add serious pvp rewards for goals inside IC.

Yeap, should of not strayed from the original design

RDMyers65b14_ESO

Dreyloch wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Gated access on more campaigns is something we are discussing along with closing campaigns to compress population. We are also talking about removing Alliance restrictions in terms of only allowing players to have 1 alliance tied to campaigns along with the ability to "unassign" yourself. Several of these changes are tied to campaign population and performance issues however, which plan on addressing in incremental patches.

This bolded part should not be discussed at all Brian. This is what leads to more spies and allows population imbalance to run rampant. This is NOT a good idea. But if this is the way you decide to go, then we need to be able to make a toon on the other faction become instantly the same level as our highest toon. Skill points and CP's included. For free. Because I'll be damned if I'm gonna level another toon from scratch just to play the same campaign with another faction. I think many in the player base would agree.

Actually, you have it reversed if I am reading it correctly. What it means as I understand it, you will be locked to one alliance for PVP for the entire account. That means, if you choose EP, you will be only EP for Cyrodil. You won't be able to have a character in another alliance on that account for PVP. This will go a long way to help eliminate spying. I hope they implement this change soon although, as I have heard from someone who does some spying, it is good to know that there are some players in the rival faction who are as concerned about the state of PVP as well. To those players who see the problem a color blocked map causes, I want to apologize for my negativity and to thank you for caring about the game.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

xaraan wrote: »

AND, DO NOT allow people to travel to other campaigns. Pick a home and that's it, no alts, no group queue with group leader being homed, no travel to leader if they are homed, etc. Just make it strict and FAIR. You can appeal to the casual masses all you want, but in the end, a game that isn't fair isn't going to want to be played by many for very long.

THIS so very much!!!!!!