[Data Mining] New Crown Store Items from 2.1.1

Prof_Bawbag

Then there was shadowmere too. Whilst not a skeletal horse, Shadowmere was considered an undead or something like that horse. I miss the good old days when the Beth forums used to be flooded with "Where's my shadowmere" posts. Was hilarious.

phairdon

Rosveen wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Skeletal mounts, pumpkin specter skins? This game is quickly becoming a freak show.

Skyrim had a skeletal mount.

It did. Although it was a mod.

Likes the skeletal mounts, pumpkin & scarecrow skin.

It was a DLC, not a mod. The difference is that DLC is official and canon while mods are fanmade.

Interesting as I never had a skeletal horse from any of the DLC's. Got one through a mod.

Arvak was a skeletal horse. He looked different than this one because of his purple flames, but the principle was the same.

Just looked it up. My modded one looks quite similar (Chaos soul). Anyway, back on topic.

Thymos

From those items, is this a warning to a Halloween themed event coming?

Akavir_Sentinel

Thymos wrote: »

From those items, is this a warning to a Halloween themed event coming?

I hope not. It's all downhill from there if they do.

Dahkoht

Thymos wrote: »

From those items, is this a warning to a Halloween themed event coming?

Seriously doubt it , that takes WAY more effort.

Tossing in Halloween cash shop items which are just reskins is much easier and $$$.

Halloween event requires more effort and gets no more cash shop purchases.

What do you think will happen ?

Loomis

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Sheer idiocy and greed, that's all there is to it. Hey Zenimax, why don't you call up Sony Online Entertainment and ask them how well it worked out for them when they implemented a cash shop and holiday themes to Star Wars Galaxies. That game was dead a year after.

At least know what really caused the downfall of SWG before you make up bogus things lol

The game died literally overnight !! I logged in one day and it was not the game I had been playing

The cash shop had zero to do with SWG downfall ... They completely changed the game to try to cater to the masses and dumb it down and lost all their subscribers for it enmasse.

The statements made by Nancy MacIntyre, the game’s senior director, at LucasArts to the New York Times illustrates the huge shift in thinking from Koster’s original philosophy to this “retooled” franchise:

"We really just needed to make the game a lot more accessible to a much broader player base. There was lots of reading, much too much, in the game. There was a lot of wandering around learning about different abilities. We really needed to give people the experience of being Han Solo or Luke Skywalker rather than being Uncle Owen, the moisture farmer. We wanted more instant gratification: kill, get treasure, repeat. We needed to give people more of an opportunity to be a part of what they have seen in the movies rather than something they had created themselves."

Her "vision" and the rest of the bigwigs destroyed the game as it was and tried to cash in on wows massive numbers of easy button gaming .... Kosters vision was destroyed overnight and the rest is history as all the players left the game.

And there we have the greatest MMO failure of all time.

No, there’s no contest. 50 years from now, students in game design colleges will study Star Wars Galaxies’ “New Game Experience” relaunch, with the instructors shouting “DO NOT EVER DO THIS, EVER EVER EVER”.

From SOE’s perspective, the problem was fairly simple. You have Star Wars, which is a fairly compelling and popular license about blasters and Jedi knights and space war, and then you have Star Wars Galaxies, which was an incredibly intricate economic/crafting/social simulator. At some point, the two needed to merge, and it’s pretty clear that George Lucas wasn’t going to re-write Star Wars to be all about Toshley Station’s moisture vaporators. So... let’s make Star Wars Galaxies more compelling! No, I know, let’s make it a twitch-based shooter! And redo the character system from a free-form skill-based system to experience points, levels and classes! Let’s make it a whole new game! Only... let’s do it with the game we already have. C’mon, it’ll be great!

Except they forgot one thing. The players. Who were already playing a game. That they kind of liked. And were paying for. And with no warning, they logged in one day, literally two weeks after an expansion was shipped (and promptly made completely superfluous), and were literally playing a completely different game.

They were kind of angry about this.

No, really. They were really, really angry about this. And quotes like the one above from the Lucasarts representative who explained that the older version of SWG involved “too much reading” failed to mollify user complaints for some reason.

The results were predictable in retrospect: thousands upon thousands of players quit, and the expected hundreds of thousands of new players failed to materialize, primarily because for months every gaming forum on the Internet was full of angry spittle-flecked hatred for everything SOE and Lucasarts stood for.

Did I mention that SWG players were kind of angry about this? Takeaway lesson: never - NEVER - switch out the core of what makes your game what it is while you have paying customers. If you do, they will never forgive you.

Long store short grass is not always greener and a bird in the hand better than two in the bush...

Were they greedy ?? Absolutely but it had nothing to do with a cash shop yet cost them millions of dollars


So NO it was NOT a cash shop that destroyed the game ...... Don't mislead people or speakers on matters you don't know about to make it fit into your argument about a cash shop in games

Cash shops are good for games it creates a cash flow for development which is always a good thing

Don't shop in them if you wish to protest but they are here to stay

Akavir_Sentinel

Loomis wrote: »

Takeaway lesson: never - NEVER - switch out the core of what makes your game what it is while you have paying customers. If you do, they will never forgive you.

Which is exactly what Zenimax is doing. They have already dumbed down the game immensely, and are continuing to do so. The cash shop wasn't the only nail in the coffin of SWG, but it was the final nail.

GreenSoup2HoT

Kool @Zos , racking in the $$ with them Vampire/Werewolf bite's purchasable with Crown's. All those little kiddies gonna eat that right up.

There better be costume's for every Race. I want my Imperial Costume!

Also that Goat Tho, gonna be my noble steed!
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I don't mind all these undead mount's and pet's... just you gotta add lore so they make sence.

Elsonso

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I don't mind all these undead mount's and pet's... just you gotta add lore so they make sence.

Yeah, but this is not an expansion of the game where they get to add in content and background. That would be what they would do if they wanted these things to be more than a Crown Store item that grabbed people during Halloween (and after that, Christmas).

Dahkoht

NGE = worst decision made by a mmorpg company ever.


I loved original SWG , pre CU , it's the only game that came close to pre PoP EQ for me.


Sorry for the high-jack , carry on.

Arunei

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Then there was shadowmere too. Whilst not a skeletal horse, Shadowmere was considered an undead or something like that horse. I miss the good old days when the Beth forums used to be flooded with "Where's my shadowmere" posts. Was hilarious.

I think Shadowmere was Daedric. He/she was a servant to Sithis iirc.

That being said the Skeletal Mounts are cool, and I'm totally fine with the Bites being in the CS. This gives more people access to the diseases if they want them. I have to admit it does seem to defeat the purpose of having the only viral NPCs be in the level 40-ish areas, but meh.

Kleptobrainiac

Dahkoht wrote: »

NGE = worst decision made by a mmorpg company ever.


I loved original SWG , pre CU , it's the only game that came close to pre PoP EQ for me.


Sorry for the high-jack , carry on.

There is always SWGEmu. Best mmo community in existence.

Akavir_Sentinel

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

NGE = worst decision made by a mmorpg company ever.


I loved original SWG , pre CU , it's the only game that came close to pre PoP EQ for me.


Sorry for the high-jack , carry on.

There is always SWGEmu. Best mmo community in existence.

I still have my original installation discs and play on the Emu occasionally.

The_Sadist

I don't mind the skeletal mounts, but the polymorphs are up there with the bloody ice horse, silly and ugly.

delushin

Qyrk wrote: »

NETCH PET!!!!! YEEEHAWWW!!!!! Next up NETCH MOUNT Q1 2016!!!!!!

It can come as they larch flying mounts and the dragon expansion defying all lore!

Tholian1

Is this for real?

I love the Breton Hero and Elf Hero costumes, but wonder why we can't get such nice stuff for crafting.

Does the Markarth Bear-Dog mean we will be seeing Markarth in the game soon?

Fruitmass

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Kool @Zos , racking in the $$ with them Vampire/Werewolf bite's purchasable with Crown's. All those little kiddies gonna eat that right up.

You didn't seriously think they were going to pass that opportunity up did you? Sad to say, I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Especially after that repeat performance of the whole bite scamming epidemic with console.

Considering starting a pool on how long it'll be before we see recipe bundles for sale now...

WhiteCoatSyndrome

lordrichter wrote: »

Happy Halloween everyone. Terrestrial Holidays are here!

Why can't we get some TAMRIEL holidays? Daedric Summoning days and so on? We've got a number of Tamriel harvest festivals coming up (one is tomorrow).

Loomis wrote: »

Takeaway lesson: never - NEVER - switch out the core of what makes your game what it is while you have paying customers. If you do, they will never forgive you.

I like this quote. Ubisoft did something similar to the Might and Magic series. Too many companies don't realize that yes--there are a lot more people who are not playing your game than people who are. But the people who are not playing are going to remember their impression from when they first heard of the game, and still not touch it after your revamp or reboot or whatever, while the people who are playing now will just leave.

Elsonso

Fruitmass wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Kool @Zos , racking in the $$ with them Vampire/Werewolf bite's purchasable with Crown's. All those little kiddies gonna eat that right up.

You didn't seriously think they were going to pass that opportunity up did you? Sad to say, I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Especially after that repeat performance of the whole bite scamming epidemic with console.

These are on PTS right now.

It does make me wonder whether these are going to be actual Crown items or whether they are just there for PTS convenience.

Oh, silly me. Nevermind!

starkerealm

lordrichter wrote: »

Fruitmass wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Kool @Zos , racking in the $$ with them Vampire/Werewolf bite's purchasable with Crown's. All those little kiddies gonna eat that right up.

You didn't seriously think they were going to pass that opportunity up did you? Sad to say, I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Especially after that repeat performance of the whole bite scamming epidemic with console.

These are on PTS right now.

It does make me wonder whether these are going to be actual Crown items or whether they are just there for PTS convenience.

Oh, silly me. Nevermind!

I for one welcome the console bite market being taken out behind the woodshed. It took a long time for sanity to start filtering into that on the PC.

Fruitmass

starkerealm wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Fruitmass wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Kool @Zos , racking in the $$ with them Vampire/Werewolf bite's purchasable with Crown's. All those little kiddies gonna eat that right up.

You didn't seriously think they were going to pass that opportunity up did you? Sad to say, I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Especially after that repeat performance of the whole bite scamming epidemic with console.

These are on PTS right now.

It does make me wonder whether these are going to be actual Crown items or whether they are just there for PTS convenience.

Oh, silly me. Nevermind!

I for one welcome the console bite market being taken out behind the woodshed. It took a long time for sanity to start filtering into that on the PC.

Aye, overall I agree. I'm not unsympathetic for the players. I remember that nightmare quite well and it's awful they let it happen twice. Still though, dirty pull to sell the bite as quick fix rather than actually address the root issue. Of course on the flip side considering some of their past (and upcoming) "fixes", maybe this is the better option.

Sandmanninja

Loving the new 'Hero' costumes (as they were worn in the cinematic).
Loving the new skeleton mounts. Nicely compliments the Skeleton Polymorph suits.
Figured the Vamp and WW bites were coming. I don't have an opinion either way. I have 1 of each and I'm happy enough.
The baby netch will be bought.
Neutral to the goats.
Prolly get the dog, as I love dogs.

aco5712

i only clicked here to see what the new puggies are gonna waste their money on now.... and then i saw the dog.... and now i am a puggie

Auricle

... A pumpkin costume..? This does not bode well when Consumermas comes around.

S1ipperyJim

starkerealm wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Fruitmass wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Kool @Zos , racking in the $$ with them Vampire/Werewolf bite's purchasable with Crown's. All those little kiddies gonna eat that right up.

You didn't seriously think they were going to pass that opportunity up did you? Sad to say, I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Especially after that repeat performance of the whole bite scamming epidemic with console.

These are on PTS right now.

It does make me wonder whether these are going to be actual Crown items or whether they are just there for PTS convenience.

Oh, silly me. Nevermind!

I for one welcome the console bite market being taken out behind the woodshed. It took a long time for sanity to start filtering into that on the PC.

You DO realise this means you are welcoming paying actual cold hard real life cash to ZO$ rather than in game gold to players? How exactly is that an improvement? Just Zeni getting in on the scamming but with RL dollars

Avonna

.......................sigh..............................

starkerealm

reapthetempestrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Just Zeni getting in on the scamming but with RL dollars

With ZoS, you know they're not going to log off 10 seconds after they get their victim's cash and not deliver the bite.

With ZoS selling it, the derps who camp the spawns and then turn around and demand cash for bites can't really corner the market anymore.

With ZoS, you get what you're paying for.

Long term, it will also make it easier for people to get bites without paying. Sure, we're going to see more players who'll look at it as a revenue stream in game... but, at the same time, the population will normalize, and the non-derp players will probably go on doing what happens on live: Giving bites away.

So, not exactly a scam, unless you think the bite items won't actually deliver an infection.

AngryNord

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

There better be costume's for every Race. I want my Imperial Costume!

The costumes are the ones worn by the three heroes from the cinematic trailers around the time of release. Since there were only three heroes (one nord, one altmer, one breton), there'll obviously be only three costumes.

TheTwistedRune

I like the skeletal horse, at least it fits the lore. Will probably get that.

The Breton hero outfit reminds me a bit of the Thalmor light armour from Skyrim.

Enodoc

WTH is this?


I can just about get over Glacier Horse, Fire Horse and Skele Horse, but a pumpkin polymorph? That is one seriously corrupted spriggan. Someone get @Lawrence_Schick in here... there are only three acceptable sorts of pumpkin:
Plants, Dogs, and Foxes: