Imperial City Available on the PTS on 7/28

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    Nestor wrote: »
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    They will copy your characters over, so if you have a rich character, you have all the gold you need. Remember, these are copies so you can spend all you want and they will make more copies of your Live characters later.
    But only half of the playerbase is copied. While EU waits the templates should be able to craft. In previous patch the templates didn't know any traits and didn't have mats.
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    helediron wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    They will copy your characters over, so if you have a rich character, you have all the gold you need. Remember, these are copies so you can spend all you want and they will make more copies of your Live characters later.
    But only half of the playerbase is copied. While EU waits the templates should be able to craft. In previous patch the templates didn't know any traits and didn't have mats.

    I agree. Us EU players only get templates after two weeks or so of testing, I hope ZOS have improved their templates such that we can craft required gear or even better do it properly and have vendors selling the relevant gear which we can buy for 0g and actually test with.
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    helediron wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    They will copy your characters over, so if you have a rich character, you have all the gold you need. Remember, these are copies so you can spend all you want and they will make more copies of your Live characters later.
    But only half of the playerbase is copied. While EU waits the templates should be able to craft. In previous patch the templates didn't know any traits and didn't have mats.

    For different reasons I also think template characters should be more properly outfitted. At a bare minimum all new sets and max crafting with both new styles unlocked to properly test. I think the biggest concern with unlocking the TelVar stone sets for me though is the horrible imbalance that is farming stones and not getting ganked by a squad of 24 will be completely circumvented if players are given the sets without having to farm the stones in PTS.

    They honestly think we will have no incentive to farm players as groups of 24+ ??? lol.
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    So long for EU copy :cry: I thought they would finally be together this time?
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  • Daveheart
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    They will copy your characters over, so if you have a rich character, you have all the gold you need. Remember, these are copies so you can spend all you want and they will make more copies of your Live characters later.

    Thanks for the response, but I'm more than aware that I'll get the copy. I still like to experiment on the PTS with various builds, and with their comments regarding how long it may take to farm the best gear or the mats to craft them (or Telvar Stones to buy them), I'm even more concerned about having different gear and materials/currency made available to template characters.

    I will spend some time farming and testing out how long it takes to get some of the best new gear to gauge times and whatnot, but I don't plan to spend the time necessary to farm entire sets; I'd rather test ability balance, new builds, gear combinations, and stability in Cyrodiil/IC. I don't want to spend my entire time on the PTS simply farming mats and gear.

    To put my views simply, I believe that the templates we were using for the PTS to test update 6 would be completely unacceptable for this upcoming patch.
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    Will controller support be in the patch? I may switch over to PTS for a bit if it is, otherwise I really don't want to spoil the IC for myself.
    No, that won't be available in this patch.
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    At this point, I don't think anyone needs to test trial gear, and the amounts of gold available wasn't even enough to buy the bag space to hold everything that's included on the templates. A selection of new sets would be nice for testing and perhaps a supply of stones on the templates. A few people will have the time to farm a bit in order to test new sets and give the 'risk/reward' telvar system a fair shot, but others (like me) won't have the time to get too far into the new systems if we don't have a solid starting point.
    We did make some improvements to templates since the last time we tested on the PTS, though we're not able to accommodate every request due to technical limitations. That said, we have added more gold, crafting mats, and Champion Points to name a few.
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    So long for EU copy :cry: I thought they would finally be together this time?
    No, unfortunately we don't have that tech available yet. However, each megaserver will have equal time to test on the PTS. Two weeks for NA, and two weeks for EU.
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    We did make some improvements to templates since the last time we tested on the PTS, though we're not able to accommodate every request due to technical limitations. That said, we have added more gold, crafting mats, and Champion Points to name a few.
    How about all traits?
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    Will controller support be in the patch? I may switch over to PTS for a bit if it is, otherwise I really don't want to spoil the IC for myself.
    No, that won't be available in this patch.
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    At this point, I don't think anyone needs to test trial gear, and the amounts of gold available wasn't even enough to buy the bag space to hold everything that's included on the templates. A selection of new sets would be nice for testing and perhaps a supply of stones on the templates. A few people will have the time to farm a bit in order to test new sets and give the 'risk/reward' telvar system a fair shot, but others (like me) won't have the time to get too far into the new systems if we don't have a solid starting point.
    We did make some improvements to templates since the last time we tested on the PTS, though we're not able to accommodate every request due to technical limitations. That said, we have added more gold, crafting mats, and Champion Points to name a few.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    So long for EU copy :cry: I thought they would finally be together this time?
    No, unfortunately we don't have that tech available yet. However, each megaserver will have equal time to test on the PTS. Two weeks for NA, and two weeks for EU.

    Does this mean that the NA PTS will only have the patch from 7/28 - 8/11, and then revert back to pre-patch 1.7?
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    Will controller support be in the patch? I may switch over to PTS for a bit if it is, otherwise I really don't want to spoil the IC for myself.
    No, that won't be available in this patch.
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    At this point, I don't think anyone needs to test trial gear, and the amounts of gold available wasn't even enough to buy the bag space to hold everything that's included on the templates. A selection of new sets would be nice for testing and perhaps a supply of stones on the templates. A few people will have the time to farm a bit in order to test new sets and give the 'risk/reward' telvar system a fair shot, but others (like me) won't have the time to get too far into the new systems if we don't have a solid starting point.
    We did make some improvements to templates since the last time we tested on the PTS, though we're not able to accommodate every request due to technical limitations. That said, we have added more gold, crafting mats, and Champion Points to name a few.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    So long for EU copy :cry: I thought they would finally be together this time?
    No, unfortunately we don't have that tech available yet. However, each megaserver will have equal time to test on the PTS. Two weeks for NA, and two weeks for EU.

    Glad to hear the materials part, particularly :).
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    Will controller support be in the patch? I may switch over to PTS for a bit if it is, otherwise I really don't want to spoil the IC for myself.
    No, that won't be available in this patch.
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    At this point, I don't think anyone needs to test trial gear, and the amounts of gold available wasn't even enough to buy the bag space to hold everything that's included on the templates. A selection of new sets would be nice for testing and perhaps a supply of stones on the templates. A few people will have the time to farm a bit in order to test new sets and give the 'risk/reward' telvar system a fair shot, but others (like me) won't have the time to get too far into the new systems if we don't have a solid starting point.
    We did make some improvements to templates since the last time we tested on the PTS, though we're not able to accommodate every request due to technical limitations. That said, we have added more gold, crafting mats, and Champion Points to name a few.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    So long for EU copy :cry: I thought they would finally be together this time?
    No, unfortunately we don't have that tech available yet. However, each megaserver will have equal time to test on the PTS. Two weeks for NA, and two weeks for EU.

    Does this mean that the NA PTS will only have the patch from 7/28 - 8/11, and then revert back to pre-patch 1.7?

    There is only one PTS, and the patch on it won't change. What she meant is that after 2 weeks, the NA copies of characters will be wiped out and replaced by EU copies.
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    Will controller support be in the patch? I may switch over to PTS for a bit if it is, otherwise I really don't want to spoil the IC for myself.
    No, that won't be available in this patch.
    Daveheart wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Have they improved the templates so that they'll be effective for testing the new systems, gear, and currency?

    At this point, I don't think anyone needs to test trial gear, and the amounts of gold available wasn't even enough to buy the bag space to hold everything that's included on the templates. A selection of new sets would be nice for testing and perhaps a supply of stones on the templates. A few people will have the time to farm a bit in order to test new sets and give the 'risk/reward' telvar system a fair shot, but others (like me) won't have the time to get too far into the new systems if we don't have a solid starting point.
    We did make some improvements to templates since the last time we tested on the PTS, though we're not able to accommodate every request due to technical limitations. That said, we have added more gold, crafting mats, and Champion Points to name a few.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    So long for EU copy :cry: I thought they would finally be together this time?
    No, unfortunately we don't have that tech available yet. However, each megaserver will have equal time to test on the PTS. Two weeks for NA, and two weeks for EU.

    Does this mean that the NA PTS will only have the patch from 7/28 - 8/11, and then revert back to pre-patch 1.7?

    No, that isn't what it means.

    NA and EU both share the same PTS, this is why NA and EU characters cannot co-exist as I have a character called "Paolen" in EU but someone on NA may also have "Paolen" and this would cause database errors and lots of issues.

    To circumvent this, they copy NA first for two weeks, wipe all the characters and then copy EU over for two weeks.

    Both NA and EU will be able to access the PTS fully from date of release however after two weeks NA players will only have access to templates and not their man characters.
    Edited by Paulington on July 27, 2015 9:04PM
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    The mats are great (woohoo! many of us have been asking for a Crafter's Box of mats/motifs on the templates), but if the crating traits aren't unlocked (maybe a crafter skill book in that box?) as some have asked about, um, well, there goes testing things out with crafted gear.
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    Awesome, can't wait! :)
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    The mats are great (woohoo! many of us have been asking for a Crafter's Box of mats/motifs on the templates), but if the crating traits aren't unlocked (maybe a crafter skill book in that box?) as some have asked about, um, well, there goes testing things out with crafted gear.

    Well you'll just have to rely on a character transfer to do the crafting, unfortunately.
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    Where are Captain Durida and Captain Veranim hiding? They are not at either of the Daggerfall shields. I have searched and searched and I am beginning to believe they are only a rumor. It is very irritating to spend hours roaming around looking for people who do not seem to exist. Is everyone sure that Imperial city is on PTS? Because I don't think it is. There is no one in the zone who knows anything about it.
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    Where are Captain Durida and Captain Veranim hiding? They are not at either of the Daggerfall shields. I have searched and searched and I am beginning to believe they are only a rumor. It is very irritating to spend hours roaming around looking for people who do not seem to exist. Is everyone sure that Imperial city is on PTS? Because I don't think it is. There is no one in the zone who knows anything about it.

    Please read what was posted....it will be available tomorrow after maintenance.


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    Yay, I can't wait. :)
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    Where are Captain Durida and Captain Veranim hiding? They are not at either of the Daggerfall shields. I have searched and searched and I am beginning to believe they are only a rumor. It is very irritating to spend hours roaming around looking for people who do not seem to exist. Is everyone sure that Imperial city is on PTS? Because I don't think it is. There is no one in the zone who knows anything about it.

    Didn't you notice...never mind. Keep looking! They've gotta be there somewhere!
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    I just hope my brand new Sorc isn't getting nerfed! :(
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    Zsymon wrote: »
    I just hope my brand new Sorc isn't getting nerfed! :(

    Bolt Escape is being "nerfed" in this patch which in my opinion is totally warranted, even as someone who has a Sorcerer main. No idea beyond that though!
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    Paulington wrote: »
    Zsymon wrote: »
    I just hope my brand new Sorc isn't getting nerfed! :(

    Bolt Escape is being "nerfed" in this patch which in my opinion is totally warranted, even as someone who has a Sorcerer main. No idea beyond that though!

    I dunno, having a spell given a penalty so harsh you can only use it twice, in a game designed to spam abilities based on resources. Imo they shoulda given it a counter like root.

    That said I care only about PvP in terms of healing, so Bolt Escape is not that important to me. I am more worried about the much needed Hardened Ward given all the whining about shield stacking. They might nerf Hardened Ward instead of solving the issue by removing shield stacking.
    Edited by Zsymon on July 28, 2015 6:00AM
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    Zsymon wrote: »
    Paulington wrote: »
    Zsymon wrote: »
    I just hope my brand new Sorc isn't getting nerfed! :(

    Bolt Escape is being "nerfed" in this patch which in my opinion is totally warranted, even as someone who has a Sorcerer main. No idea beyond that though!

    I dunno, having a spell given a penalty so harsh you can only use it twice, in a game designed to spam abilities based on resources. Imo they shoulda given it a counter like root.

    That said I care only about PvP in terms of healing, so Bolt Escape is not that important to me. I am more worried about the much needed Hardened Ward given all the whining about shield stacking. They might nerf Hardened Ward instead of solving the issue by removing shield stacking.

    I don't think they will directly nerf it, but there was some talk about a set bonus that is specifically meant to counter shields. We'll see later today i guess :)
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