Champion Points and the Future of Non-Vet PvP

OzJohnD

I do not want to think "Man if only I did not have a job or a real life"

be kind .. not every hard core gamer has no life - that accusation is based on urban mythology that is disrespectful, rude and should not be allowed to propagate

mukiovatai

Thanks for taking the time to address this so thoroughly. Excellent post, Kia.

Celas_Dranacea

Thank you @ZOS_BrianWheeler for looking into this for us. Single most important issue for me, and if it's addressed I'm happy to continue subscribing / buying random *** in the crown store for a long, long time.

I will also still play in the reg campaigns, but as a person w around 210 cp now I will enjoy testing myself against higher and lower cp foes on a more even playing field.

Btw - you guys are doing a great job, I don't think folks give you enough credit. Keep it up, we love this game

NewBlacksmurf

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We are still looking to add non-Champion point campaigns, but it's not easy to do as people have noted. When we have an ETA we'll post it for you all though

PvP ideas: I've not experienced PvP in games where Level variance of 10 or more wasn't an issue.

I think a lot of the community pondered why we never saw an arena PvP or some sort of small versions of Cyrodil as battle fields by level ranges as something like a demo at an event in prior years by you guys sparked a lot of interest.

Battlefields by level ranges 10-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, VR1 - VR14 (1/3 the size of Cyrodil today but in a similar format)
Arenas: 4X4X4 based on the level ranges above for battle fields (like Dragon Star Arena or the Oblivion Arena concept)

Yolokin_Swagonborn

This post is more than a month old. What has been accomplished since then? I haven't played for months, come back to BWB and there are unkillable troll builds and perma dodgers everywhere.

If I wanted that crap i'd go to the vet campaign.

Why isn't this fixed yet? Everybody is on the same page. Turn of CP in BWB! like now, not in 5 months.

JamilaRaj

So, how are things going? I know the devs are busy fixing The Dreaded Stuck In Combat Bug, but....do they still /lurk?

W0lf_z13

I completely Agree with this post... I was wondering in non vet at level 49 why i was getting my ass handed to me by a level 11 ... per everything that i read due to having more passives i should have slightly better odds than a player of that level. Only thing I can think of is that CP's were involved on said player. I enjoy BwB BUT it gets a bit of an annoyance when you are getting destroyed by players 30 levels under you.

Banroc

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

I completely Agree with this post... I was wondering in non vet at level 49 why i was getting my ass handed to me by a level 11 ... per everything that i read due to having more passives i should have slightly better odds than a player of that level. Only thing I can think of is that CP's were involved on said player. I enjoy BwB BUT it gets a bit of an annoyance when you are getting destroyed by players 30 levels under you.

This is the problem with having CP account wide and not applied only to the characters that earn them

W0lf_z13

Banroc wrote: »

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

I completely Agree with this post... I was wondering in non vet at level 49 why i was getting my ass handed to me by a level 11 ... per everything that i read due to having more passives i should have slightly better odds than a player of that level. Only thing I can think of is that CP's were involved on said player. I enjoy BwB BUT it gets a bit of an annoyance when you are getting destroyed by players 30 levels under you.

This is the problem with having CP account wide and not applied only to the characters that earn them

Agreed... the whole time i was thinking... come on!!... i cant suck THIS bad.... I def think if anything CP should be either taken out of NON vet PvP seeing as though CP is a vet reward... OR everyone should be set to a certain amount of CP ( including players like me who haven't reached vet level on any player ) the first one makes most sense do it it being a NON vet area

americansteel

how about the devs just get rid of CP all together. i remember this game with out CP

Reverb

JamilaRaj wrote: »

So, how are things going? I know the devs are busy fixing The Dreaded Stuck In Combat Bug, but....do they still /lurk?

WTB lol button

W0lf_z13

americansteel wrote: »

how about the devs just get rid of CP all together. i remember this game with out CP

I dont think it needs to go THAT far, i mean... CP could be fun.... but for a non vet area ... there shouldnt be anything vet that "works" ... My whole understanding on the "Battle Leveling" was that it was supposed to pretty much make everyone close to being equal... but with champion points being allowed in it the equalness has disappeared

bowmanz607

Banroc wrote: »

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

I completely Agree with this post... I was wondering in non vet at level 49 why i was getting my ass handed to me by a level 11 ... per everything that i read due to having more passives i should have slightly better odds than a player of that level. Only thing I can think of is that CP's were involved on said player. I enjoy BwB BUT it gets a bit of an annoyance when you are getting destroyed by players 30 levels under you.

This is the problem with having CP account wide and not applied only to the characters that earn them

the problem with having them per toon is that not many people would use or even lvl an alt b/c that would put you behind in champ points if you split your time between toons. This one push more and more people (especially min/maxers) to stick with one toon which would hurt the game support in long run. However, not allowing them to apply to non-vet toons would be solid. You still have incentive to play other toons w/o the imbalance in non-vet. (there have been rumors floating around that this is the plan in the future.)

W0lf_z13

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Banroc wrote: »

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

I completely Agree with this post... I was wondering in non vet at level 49 why i was getting my ass handed to me by a level 11 ... per everything that i read due to having more passives i should have slightly better odds than a player of that level. Only thing I can think of is that CP's were involved on said player. I enjoy BwB BUT it gets a bit of an annoyance when you are getting destroyed by players 30 levels under you.

This is the problem with having CP account wide and not applied only to the characters that earn them

the problem with having them per toon is that not many people would use or even lvl an alt b/c that would put you behind in champ points if you split your time between toons. This one push more and more people (especially min/maxers) to stick with one toon which would hurt the game support in long run. However, not allowing them to apply to non-vet toons would be solid. You still have incentive to play other toons w/o the imbalance in non-vet. (there have been rumors floating around that this is the plan in the future.)

I see your point. Def hope something is done though about the non vet areas... I'm all for vet's getting some kind of reward system such as the CP ... But to have a vet reward that gives a big advantage to someone who has 1 if not more vet rank toons on a toon that is brand new and in a non vet area kind of defeats the whole purpose on making things equal... so hopefully the rumors are true then