Thread for PC Users :)

SG_Celerrimus

Damn, this put a smile on my face. I know that is bad to say, but I have been here pretty much since PC launched, and I still remember what happened that week.

freespirit

What do you mean........

Error!?!

Gandrhulf_Harbard

JD2013 wrote: »

Though do remember, if console fails to capture an audience then it's likely the whole game will go. I'm sure none of us actually want that.

Go console go! You can do it! (For pc users)

This is a bit of circular reasoning though.

The ONLY reason they needed a cash injection from console is because they failed, woefully, to meet the expectations THEY SET for themselves.

Had they delivered even 75% of what they had promised then the game would have been healthy and vibrant enough to not need to worry about the need for a revenue stream from Console.

Also had the game been that healthy and vibrant they'd have bought themselves enough time financially, and good will from the playerbase, to actually do the Console launch they promised - in effect hitch free.

The only ppl Zeni have to blame for them needing to abandon PC and concentrate on Console is themselves.

The over promised and under delivered: a fatal combination in any consumer environment.

All The Best

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

The plan from day one was to have console and pc versions of the game. So they didnt go "Hey the game is tanking lets make a console version.".

Gandrhulf_Harbard

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

My favorite thing is the mods updated every hour on the hour what was going on with the login issues. PC users rarely even get one update never multiple updates within a few hours. We see where ZOS loyalties lie eh? lol

^ This.

From invaluable cash-cow beta-testers to red-headed stepchild in 24 hours.

All The Best

JD2013

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Though do remember, if console fails to capture an audience then it's likely the whole game will go. I'm sure none of us actually want that.

Go console go! You can do it! (For pc users)

This is a bit of circular reasoning though.

The ONLY reason they needed a cash injection from console is because they failed, woefully, to meet the expectations THEY SET for themselves.

Had they delivered even 75% of what they had promised then the game would have been healthy and vibrant enough to not need to worry about the need for a revenue stream from Console.

Also had the game been that healthy and vibrant they'd have bought themselves enough time financially, and good will from the playerbase, to actually do the Console launch they promised - in effect hitch free.

The only ppl Zeni have to blame for them needing to abandon PC and concentrate on Console is themselves.

The over promised and under delivered: a fatal combination in any consumer environment.

All The Best

That argument is null and void as it was shown to be coming to consoles from the PS4 announcement back in 2013.

All the best

MissBizz

Oh, hey, morning guys! Kind of glad my PS4 won't connect to my PSN suddenly. At least now I can blame my inability to play on PS4..

Meanwhile.. I'll relax and play the forum game at work... then skip home and play on PC tonight. Wee, got 3 champ points last night guys, pretty sure that's a record for me haha.

@P3ZZL3 Think you'd share some of that popcorn?

P3ZZL3

Nice work @MissBizz .......... I picked up a v13 Master Inferno Staff from Normal DSA - 3rd run ever Happy Days

And here, help yourself for.............

MissBizz

That's amazing! I still refuse to go to trials or DSA, I have this odd thing where I won't do any of that until I compelte Caldwell Gold. I also hit VR12 last night... and only half done Rivenspire... 2 more full zones to go... hahaha

JD2013

MissBizz wrote: »

That's amazing! I still refuse to go to trials or DSA, I have this odd thing where I won't do any of that until I compelte Caldwell Gold. I also hit VR12 last night... and only half done Rivenspire... 2 more full zones to go... hahaha

You can do it! *shakes Pom Poms*

Rammi

This is the way I feel when i login to the PC game right now





I then logout and go do something else (Bored Gamer)

MissBizz

Thanks @JD2013 ! Oh I know I can do it Just like to lean back, listen to the story, oh.. and of course pick some flowers and stop at every fishing hole I see Did you get any awesome weapons in game, an awesome achievement or anything?

P3ZZL3

lol. For some reason I feel this is appropriate in this thread:

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Xendyn

What's your favorite popcorn thread right now?
Mine's this one
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/174266/all-forms-of-chat-on-the-console-version-are-complete-failures/p1

JD2013

MissBizz wrote: »

Thanks @JD2013 ! Oh I know I can do it Just like to lean back, listen to the story, oh.. and of course pick some flowers and stop at every fishing hole I see Did you get any awesome weapons in game, an awesome achievement or anything?

@MissBizz I'm exactly the same! Like to stop and take in the scenery at a good fishing hole and contemplate.

As for an achievement or awesome weapon for completing vet levels . . . Prepare to be disappointed

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Xendyn wrote: »

What's your favorite popcorn thread right now?
Mine's this one
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/174266/all-forms-of-chat-on-the-console-version-are-complete-failures/p1

I could have told them this. Oh wait I DID tell them this multiple times.

Faunter

Robbmrp

That will be me watching when all the console players jump in Cyrodil and break the console server.....

P3ZZL3

I actually like this thread right now: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/174207/can-we-expect-buff-tracker-ability-timers-on-console#latest

OMG - We can't use all the mods, timers and buff trackers on console so I can be as awesome as I am on PC. When will you implement @ZOS.

[snip]
[edited for baiting]

Gandrhulf_Harbard

JD2013 wrote: »

That argument is null and void as it was shown to be coming to consoles from the PS4 announcement back in 2013.

All the best

There is a difference between:

1) Yup, we'll get this out on consoles too, just as soon as we can do so to the standard expected and without impinging on the game we have promised to deliver to PC.
2) Bloody hell, better get this out on consoles, we need the cash NOW, OR ELSE!

If they had delivered even 75% of what they committed to for PC they could have gone for option 1).

But they didn't, and along with the move to B2P they were forced to go for option 2).

I've read enough of your posts to know for a fact you are smart enough to see the difference.

All The Best

P3ZZL3

Tend to agree with @Gandrhulf_Harbard on this one.

For something that was planned back in early 2013/2014 you would expect the development to be done side by side so launch is done ASAP but it seems as though at Christmas the decision was made to rush it out *shrugs*

Meh, what do I know. Just fix the bloody Riding bug in Cyro please and release the new Set Drops ASAP. Oh and the Exp Potions would be useful as well

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

That argument is null and void as it was shown to be coming to consoles from the PS4 announcement back in 2013.

All the best

There is a difference between:

1) Yup, we'll get this out on consoles too, just as soon as we can do so to the standard expected and without impinging on the game we have promised to deliver to PC.
2) Bloody hell, better get this out on consoles, we need the cash NOW, OR ELSE!

If they had delivered even 75% of what they committed to for PC they could have gone for option 1).

But they didn't, and along with the move to B2P they were forced to go for option 2).

I've read enough of your posts to know for a fact you are smart enough to see the difference.

All The Best

This is not true tho. The console version and the PC version were both developed at the same time. They didnt add consoles as an after thought. This was always the plan from day one to have the pc version release in April with the console version releasing in June (of 2014). So you really dont know what you are talking about. Ive been here since before release the plan was ALWAYS to have a console version. The only issues which caused the delay was the fact microsoft would not (or could not I dont know) allow the bypassing of xbox live gold.

In my opinion the entire reason for the b2p switch was so they could get around the issue of xbox live gold. Noone wants to pay for gold AND a sub I guess. So your argument is quite flawed.

Shunravi

MissBizz wrote: »

That's amazing! I still refuse to go to trials or DSA, I have this odd thing where I won't do any of that until I compelte Caldwell Gold. I also hit VR12 last night... and only half done Rivenspire... 2 more full zones to go... hahaha

@MissBizz, if you ever need asistance when you are ready, feel free to ask Hero or I! Have fun out there.

P3ZZL3

The question is not about whether it was planned or not, from what I've seen @Gandrhulf_Harbard say. It's about the fact that although it was indeed scheduled and planned for June 2014, and then delayed by a year, that even then, there are flaws/bugs/errors.

It's as though they knew it was half done come December and then thought "oh god, we better get this finished and ready for launch" and it was a rush job.

MissBizz

Shunravi wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

That's amazing! I still refuse to go to trials or DSA, I have this odd thing where I won't do any of that until I compelte Caldwell Gold. I also hit VR12 last night... and only half done Rivenspire... 2 more full zones to go... hahaha

@MissBizz, if you ever need asistance when you are ready, feel free to ask Hero or I! Have fun out there.

Thanks @Shunravi Actually Hero has been asking me what Vet Dungeons I haven't completed, and had offered to help Just haven't found the time yet!

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

The question is not about whether it was planned or not, from what I've seen @Gandrhulf_Harbard say. It's about the fact that although it was indeed scheduled and planned for June 2014, and then delayed by a year, that even then, there are flaws/bugs/errors.

It's as though they knew it was half done come December and then thought "oh god, we better get this finished and ready for launch" and it was a rush job.

Or maybe they just dont know how to fix the issues. The PC game has had some of the same issues since launch. Like I said previously I think the whole delay with the console version was they had to do the b2p switch first.

JD2013

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

That argument is null and void as it was shown to be coming to consoles from the PS4 announcement back in 2013.

All the best

There is a difference between:

1) Yup, we'll get this out on consoles too, just as soon as we can do so to the standard expected and without impinging on the game we have promised to deliver to PC.
2) Bloody hell, better get this out on consoles, we need the cash NOW, OR ELSE!

If they had delivered even 75% of what they committed to for PC they could have gone for option 1).

But they didn't, and along with the move to B2P they were forced to go for option 2).

I've read enough of your posts to know for a fact you are smart enough to see the difference.

All The Best

I can agree that all of the stuff that we saw at Quakecon should have been out by now. Imperial City, Wrothgar, Murkmire etcetera.

The thing is that the console version was delayed by 14 months. It was meant to coincide with the PC release and it didn't as it was not a simple and straight port, and a lot was reworked to work on the consoles.

The thing with gaming these days is, as I can tell you are certainly smart enough to know, publishers need to be making as much money as possible. I am not saying that this is how it should be. Far from it. But this is how it is.

And if you look at the demographics of Skyrim Purely from the sales stand view, it sold by the boatload on consoles. A series like the Elder Scrolls series is always now going to be developed on both PC and consoles. Triple the sales rather than focusing on one platform. Again, is this right? Maybe not. But that is how it is.

I am not happy that everything has been delayed and put on hold for console release. Far from it. But do we even know how big the dev team are on Elder Scrolls Online? There is a lot to test when transferring an MMO from PC to console. So much code.

They have told us again and again over the last few months that they are concentrating on console release. People just refused to listen. Acceptance and listening are, of course, two very different things. I accepted that they were working on the console release, however much I want to see new things added into the game. Have their practices always been good? Definitely not.

The console release has now happened, and I agree that they have lost a lot of PC players through adding no real content in 8 months. But it is my (possibly very naive) hope that they will now concentrate on the game as a whole.

I am waiting for E3 for the news and what's coming. Then I shall see where the game stands.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

I am ready willing and able to pay ZOS money for DLC for the PC. All I need is them to get off their duff and put it out.

Cously

nastuug

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

lol. For some reason I feel this is appropriate in this thread:

@P3ZZL3 LOL