Azura Star EU

Lava_Croft

But it's always /b]insert enemy faction(s) of your choice[b that ruin the fun in Cyrodiil. Why should /b]insert your own faction[b pay for their transgressions?

prootch

ok, this is basically useless: let's get over with it and concentrate on what is usefull: lag issues, aoe lag stacking, ect...

Lava_Croft

prootch wrote: »

ok, this is basically useless: let's get over with it and concentrate on what is usefull: lag issues, aoe lag stacking, ect...

But it's much better to come to the forums to complain about something and then doing the exact same thing you complain about in-game!

Cogo

Enough nabbin Kris. Help me at Arrius....

DeanTheCat

Cogo wrote: »

Enough nabbin Kris. Help me at Arrius....

If you still need help with Arrius Oghur, this one will assist when he manages to open a stable portal to Tamriel in a few hours time.

Cogo

Had to work a few hours to get cash for black friday!

Back now, how we looking?

Oh yeah Kittah @DeanTheCat , is there an achievement to keep you entertained? I might put up a gold bounty, to have blues to chase me around tonight again.

DeanTheCat

Cogo wrote: »

Had to work a few hours to get cash for black friday!

Back now, how we looking?

Oh yeah Kittah @DeanTheCat , is there an achievement to keep you entertained? I might put up a gold bounty, to have blues to chase me around tonight again.

@Cogo:

Drake, Arrius, Aleswell, Farragut, Kings, BRK and Drake are under Pact Control.

Torsten just started a WAR1 raid, so it's up to him now

Cogo

Sorry, I got stuck on these forums again!

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Lava_Croft wrote: »

prootch wrote: »

ok, this is basically useless: let's get over with it and concentrate on what is usefull: lag issues, aoe lag stacking, ect...

But it's much better to come to the forums to complain about something and then doing the exact same thing you complain about in-game!

Someone's mad that their normal 40m nightcap zerg got shutdown by 14 AD pugs last night XD.

Leandor

Edited: Bah, never mind...

Lava_Croft

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

prootch wrote: »

ok, this is basically useless: let's get over with it and concentrate on what is usefull: lag issues, aoe lag stacking, ect...

But it's much better to come to the forums to complain about something and then doing the exact same thing you complain about in-game!

Someone's mad that their normal 40m nightcap zerg got shutdown by 14 AD pugs last night XD.

We lavish ourselves with your hypocrisy.

Please never change!

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

prootch wrote: »

ok, this is basically useless: let's get over with it and concentrate on what is usefull: lag issues, aoe lag stacking, ect...

But it's much better to come to the forums to complain about something and then doing the exact same thing you complain about in-game!

Someone's mad that their normal 40m nightcap zerg got shutdown by 14 AD pugs last night XD.

We lavish ourselves with your hypocrisy.

Please never change!

Little snipes at eachother are what the make the campaign fun, until someone gets banned XD

Jhunn

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Little snipes at eachother are what the make the campaign fun, until someone gets banned XD

We're not forum PVPing enough though. I mean, look at those NA threads - we're far behind

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Jhunn wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Little snipes at eachother are what the make the campaign fun, until someone gets banned XD

We're not forum PVPing enough though. I mean, look at those NA threads - we're far behind

Idk the Thornblade thread has a lot to catch up on XD but also my comment was more of a troll than a statement :P

Jhunn

Tonight's another great PVP night on Azura, as always asking myself 'Why am I playing this game?'.

EDIT: My ping just went below 500 for the first time in an hour. Nice!

Lava_Croft

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

prootch wrote: »

ok, this is basically useless: let's get over with it and concentrate on what is usefull: lag issues, aoe lag stacking, ect...

But it's much better to come to the forums to complain about something and then doing the exact same thing you complain about in-game!

Someone's mad that their normal 40m nightcap zerg got shutdown by 14 AD pugs last night XD.

We lavish ourselves with your hypocrisy.

Please never change!

Little snipes at eachother are what the make the campaign fun, until someone gets banned XD

We enjoy people who cry about groups of 40 while running in groups of 40.

Turelus

Too many Brits on the EU mega server, we have to be civilised while insulting each other. I mean have you ever seen our parliament?

Mr Speaker, the right honourable gentleman ( @Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO ) across from me would have us believe that it was our faction who were the ones causing lag and zerging. Yet he himself has been seen to do this time after time. Can the right honourable gentleman explain to the house why he feels he can throw these slanderous comments around while still partaking in them himself?

prootch

Lava_Croft wrote: »

prootch wrote: »

ok, this is basically useless: let's get over with it and concentrate on what is usefull: lag issues, aoe lag stacking, ect...

But it's much better to come to the forums to complain about something and then doing the exact same thing you complain about in-game!

Wtf are you talking about ?

Jhunn wrote: »

Tonight's another great PVP night on Azura, as always asking myself 'Why am I playing this game?'. EDIT: My ping just went below 500 for the first time in an hour. Nice!

Went to azura after 11pm... just to get a ping over 500+
Why the hell are you all sticking there ? (and this is no troll, I truly wonder)

Turelus

prootch, most people stick there because it's the only worthwhile PvP campaign with PvP players. The others are just one faction help PvE campaigns. Trust me I tried a bunch of campaigns trying to find a home for Wabbajack, sadly Azura is the only campaign which sees action at all hours and action which is rewarding.

If ZOS could close some of these farming campaigns and actually force factions onto the same ones to fight each other, maybe we would have worthwhile alternatives like when we have Thornblade and Azura's Star.

Divines forbid they upset the PvE players and their IC farming campaigns though, wouldn't want PvP in those PvP zones.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Turelus wrote: »

Too many Brits on the EU mega server, we have to be civilised while insulting each other. I mean have you ever seen our parliament?

Mr Speaker, the right honourable gentleman ( @Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO ) across from me would have us believe that it was our faction who were the ones causing lag and zerging. Yet he himself has been seen to do this time after time. Can the right honourable gentleman explain to the house why he feels he can throw these slanderous comments around while still partaking in them himself?

(If I wasn't on my phone I'd reply in political manner )
I run as 12-24 there was a discussion encouraging ad to run 2 guild groups together and I refused to do it and instead split my own raid into 2 12m groups.
If more would do the same I'm sure there would be less lag you will have even seen 12 guys attacking arrius last night and the ad zerg elsewhere. I do however understand the need to justify 40 people.

As Kris said last night "good job ep we drowned the ad zerg with a bigger zerg. We are better at it then them. Now all push to sej then alessia you are allowed to do main door!!!" I was almost in tears.. such an inspiring speech.

KostasDragonborn

To all of you crying about Azura lag. It's your own fault for mindlessly continuing to go there every night hoping something different will happen while there are various campaigns without lag that you ignore.

"Insanity: doing something over and over again and expecting different results."

DeanTheCat

@Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

I find group size to be a relative thing. I've seen reports in /z about 50 DC attacking Chalman, but when I arrive, all I see is round a dozen DC running around without any siege set up.

Likewise, I've seen claims by "Small scale only" players overrunning a Zerg with superior tactics when in reality it was the "Small Group" + PUGs against a group around even size as the "Small Group". Heck, I've been called a "bloody zerger" when I wipe a group of 3-4 without another EP in sight. One man zerg OP.

At this point, everyone is guilty of zerging. No one is innocent of the accusation. To me, "Zerging" now means "I got killed by XYZ faction, therefore XYZ must be terrabad zergers"

I mean, there is only at most two fights at any one time on the map nowadays. What are players supposed to do if not to head to the crossed swords to fight? Gank bears in some obscure corner of Cyrodiil? When there are only 1-2 fights active, you don't really have much choice on where to fight, as the moment you start sieging a keep with 2-3 people, the whole opposing faction shows up and rolls you over. You pretty much have to bring a warband at the very least if you want a chance at the keep.

Orchish

Tankqull wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Think we need to spread out a bit, forward camps should help when they come back. At the moment it's huge blue zergs vs large red AoE spam groups vs yellow super spam groups. All whilst there's nothing going on on the rest of the map. It's literally asking for lag when we're all clashing together at the same, all the time.

forward camps do not spread anything. never have nor ever will.

You're wrong on this one. Back when we had camps we had fights all over the place. I remember spawning at peoples camps at the other end of the entire map and there would be action there. Not to mention all the blood porting that used to happen. It was annoying but it did mean we had fighting spread across the map at times.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

DeanTheCat wrote: »

@Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

I find group size to be a relative thing. I've seen reports in /z about 50 DC attacking Chalman, but when I arrive, all I see is round a dozen DC running around without any siege set up.

Likewise, I've seen claims by "Small scale only" players overrunning a Zerg with superior tactics when in reality it was the "Small Group" + PUGs against a group around even size as the "Small Group". Heck, I've been called a "bloody zerger" when I wipe a group of 3-4 without another EP in sight. One man zerg OP.

At this point, everyone is guilty of zerging. No one is innocent of the accusation. To me, "Zerging" now means "I got killed by XYZ faction, therefore XYZ must be terrabad zergers"

I mean, there is only at most two fights at any one time on the map nowadays. What are players supposed to do if not to head to the crossed swords to fight? Gank bears in some obscure corner of Cyrodiil? When there are only 1-2 fights active, you don't really have much choice on where to fight, as the moment you start sieging a keep with 2-3 people, the whole opposing faction shows up and rolls you over. You pretty much have to bring a warband at the very least if you want a chance at the keep.

You can have your views np. Zone pugs are notorious for getting numbers wrong. Seeing over 40 players turn up at alessia all stacked nicely on the one crown is a different matter
..and then the third group come across the bridge XD

Turelus

Personally I don't care for the whole you zerg, we zerg thing. The day I stopped trying to defend my actions of zerging and just accepted "I'm having fun with friends/guild members and winning in the way the game best lets us" is actually the day I stopped caring what people say on these forums.

I just wanted a good target for my fun and I can't keep picking on Abraxus.

Basically I live by this article in gaming: http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win
I have long advocated this as why we shouldn't be screaming "exploiter" on comms and crying about people playing with the current broken skills etc. Sure sometimes I have even come to these forums and had a grumble about issues or exploits.

As most people know (as I never shut up about it) I come from EVE Online where's everyone plays to win non-stop, the ideals of honour and fair play fell off a long time ago (GrrGoons!). If you can headshot the enemy commanders and take them out of fights you do it, if you can get a spy into fleet warp it into an ambush you do it.
I enjoy that ESO doesn't take the games PvP too much into the metagame (outside of client PvP such as hacking, TS spies, guild disbanding etc.) but I CBA poo flinging about the simple fact that everyone the moment they enter Cyrodiil should be playing to win, if you're butt hurt that someone used a tactic to beat you, suck it up and find one to beat them.

Not aimed at anyone in particular, just the whole PvP community.

Jhunn

I don't get how hard it is to understand how this zerging b*llshit is ruining the servers and it's why Azura is a laggy ***. I'm still waiting for people to realize that their 24 man 'organized' group is responsible for the cr*p we have to put up with every day. I'd like an evening without a single raid and see how Azura would be. But I guess Decimation 1-8 will disagree.

And before someone cries about eXile, don't bother. I haven't been in a group larger than 12 in months.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Turelus wrote: »

Personally I don't care for the whole you zerg, we zerg thing. The day I stopped trying to defend my actions of zerging and just accepted "I'm having fun with friends/guild members and winning in the way the game best lets us" is actually the day I stopped caring what people say on these forums.

I just wanted a good target for my fun and I can't keep picking on Abraxus.

Basically I live by this article in gaming: http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win
I have long advocated this as why we shouldn't be screaming "exploiter" on comms and crying about people playing with the current broken skills etc. Sure sometimes I have even come to these forums and had a grumble about issues or exploits.

As most people know (as I never shut up about it) I come from EVE Online where's everyone plays to win non-stop, the ideals of honour and fair play fell off a long time ago (GrrGoons!). If you can headshot the enemy commanders and take them out of fights you do it, if you can get a spy into fleet warp it into an ambush you do it.
I enjoy that ESO doesn't take the games PvP too much into the metagame (outside of client PvP such as hacking, TS spies, guild disbanding etc.) but I CBA poo flinging about the simple fact that everyone the moment they enter Cyrodiil should be playing to win, if you're butt hurt that someone used a tactic to beat you, suck it up and find one to beat them.

Not aimed at anyone in particular, just the whole PvP community.

I agree with you in some points. Exploit wise this should never be tolerated. (I'm talking about things which have to be done deliberately like mundus stacking not just 'OP skills').

It's why I'm not complaining about the fact ep is running their smallscale groups just suggesting that if people don't like lag they can consider other options.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't get how hard it is to understand how this zerging b*llshit is ruining the servers and it's why Azura is a laggy ***. I'm still waiting for people to realize that their 24 man 'organized' group is responsible for the cr*p we have to put up with every day. I'd like an evening without a single raid and see how Azura would be. But I guess Decimation 1-8 will disagree.

And before someone cries about eXile, don't bother. I haven't been in a group larger than 12 in months.

XD come on now Jhunn I saw you inside that blue zerg at roe last night XD being solo isn't the same if you follow a group lol

Jhunn

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

XD come on now Jhunn I saw you inside that blue zerg at roe last night XD being solo isn't the same if you follow a group lol

You're probably talking about Honor, where I was at Roe before them, fighting before them but they zerged everything down including anyone I was fighting. Oh, that was your 24-man train?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Jhunn wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

XD come on now Jhunn I saw you inside that blue zerg at roe last night XD being solo isn't the same if you follow a group lol

You're probably talking about Honor, where I was at Roe before them, fighting before them but they zerged everything down including anyone I was fighting. Oh, that was your 24-man train?

Ah nvm I forgot it was ash not roe. I didnt defend roe defended brindle instead for falgeir
Only 7 of us inside ash not sure what 24m group you are referring to at roe. Perhaps Pizza Express ^^
Glad to hear you followed honor? there too