RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »bosmern_ESO wrote: »Trayyacakes wrote: »bosmern_ESO wrote: »bosmern_ESO wrote: »Look at Thorn before you complain (for those that don't know, Thornblade is 100% EP right now)
Maybe you should tell EP and DC guilds to not run away to other campaigns after getting wiped once on their Dethrone pushes.
"EP ran away"?.......are you serious? .......AD is only over populated on AS because you and DC had a mass exodus from Thorn. Get your facts straight on who ran away from where and why.
DC and AD left thorn because we were sick of the lag, everywhere EP followed us we crushed them because we could actually play the game.
and what are you even talking about? two guilds of EP went on Azuras last night and they tried to both hold up in Chalman and we completely demolished both of them, right after that fight they all changed servers.
Do you think maybe the left because they were extremely outnumbered and after 1.6 bigger numbers pretty much always win?
I repeat, two guilds, both full raids vs our guild but I guess we had like 50x the number of them huh?
Agrippa, you of all people should know that pop-lock isn't a good indicator of organized opposition.
I saw more EP and DC, separately, than I ever saw of any other AD. We were the only group over 10, and I saw at least 3 EP raids and a DC zerg at least twice our size.
I'm loving all this hyperbolic QQ, though. Very popcorn-worthy.
Last night AD was mostly pug groups. No organized guilds.
Had there been organized guilds representing any type of opposition.. EP and DC would have left like they usually do.
This mentality of "we only want to stay and play if we are winning" isn't good for the health of PvP in the game at all.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »And the reign of "lord" Fengrush lasted about as long as the time between his macroed attacks.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »Azura has been liberated.
~NPK
PvD must have been hard work.
So uh... If you picked Azura's Star to be your first PvP experience and you're NOT AD.... What can you do? Just wait out the campaign? As EP, I can't do anything here but PvE content. And even then, I have to be very careful. I don't even have 15k alliance points to even move my home campaign.
The Lord FENGRUSH is being harassed by many of the slaughtered on Azuras. It is only natural that you will feel this way if you try to compare yourself to Him. Accept FENGRUSH and maybe one day you can also achieve greatness.
bosmern_ESO wrote: »Look at Thorn before you complain (for those that don't know, Thornblade is 100% EP right now)
Maybe you should tell EP and DC guilds to not run away to other campaigns after getting wiped once on their Dethrone pushes.
Same thing kinda goes for Azura Star. Campaign started off nice, but as soon as AD took lead, EP and DC disappear.
I guess "I want competitive PvP" means "As long as we have a zerg big enough to farm AP from pugs and no organized guilds resist us".
It's sad, but PvP in ESO is becoming kind of a joke...
PainfulFAFA wrote: »So uh... If you picked Azura's Star to be your first PvP experience and you're NOT AD.... What can you do? Just wait out the campaign? As EP, I can't do anything here but PvE content. And even then, I have to be very careful. I don't even have 15k alliance points to even move my home campaign.
That same argument can be said about new AD players on Thornblade/CHillrend as well as DC players for pretty much all campaigns. I don't know where youre headed with that.
houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Fact of matter is, the goal of the game is to flip keeps, scrolls and resscources and keep them. tell me rylana if im wrong but, cyrodiil is an arena or structured battleground?
No it is not. The game is based o massive pvp fight with lots of players. Sorry for playing the game as intended.
I could use mch harsher arguments but I wont as I dont want to go the same path your going right now
BossTuggles wrote: »Damn Rylana is putting you guys on blast. I agree with everything stated as well. Over compensating for lack of gear/skill/levels/whatever you wanna call it with more people is all well and good. What you guys do though is just shameful. Ill deal with it though tons of kills and ap to be had we wont be leaving Azuras. However reading you people defending what you are doing is just ... ugh...
As an example. I am in a group with the LORD. A small group of 6. We are fighting a group of AD, I won't say full raid but at least 20, Running from us into tower I am not sure if they want to say this is "Farming" but noone really died in my group. Waiting for another group of at least 12 to come and help them. Those who have fought the LORD know we do not run big AoE bomb groups or anything. We don't even gear out or spec to take down groups like that. Yet you WAIT untill you have numbers that are just untouchable with the amount of competition you actually have. This is not tactics skill or anything this is just shameful.
houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Fact of matter is, the goal of the game is to flip keeps, scrolls and resscources and keep them. tell me rylana if im wrong but, cyrodiil is an arena or structured battleground?
No it is not. The game is based o massive pvp fight with lots of players. Sorry for playing the game as intended.
I could use mch harsher arguments but I wont as I dont want to go the same path your going right now
Anyone subscribing to that playstyle and considering themselves good is delusional. Excuses on why they lose with massively superior numbers, flat out lies from the officers to the junior members on what is going on, just a pack of wolves leading a bunch of lemmings to slaughter. What TKO really is now is a core of about 8-10 mediocre to fairly decent players surrounded by 40+ bads they use as fodder so they arent targeted first.
Take that core out of the blob and they get trainwrecked. I know this because I used to be part of that inner group, watching everyone around me die as the tiny inner core did all of the work.
Theres a reason players like me always seemed to make the biggest difference when we actually played with that group, because taken as a single person, I am better than 8-10 combined of those so called organized members that are fielded. I rez, I move, I set siege, I self heal. Etc. I dont need 50 people around me to accomplish my goal. Six to eight of us in GoS working together flipped a whole damn ring in an hour before, even numbers defended.
Taking empty keeps, only engaging with overwhelming odds, "farming" smaller groups for tiny 100 ticks, this doesnt make people better players, it actually makes them worse and more reliant.
Thankfully I threw that yoke off and went back to my small group roots. In those groups, everyone has to carry their own weight. You dont have 10 people off crown sitting afk in a keep pming their pve buddies that just happen to show up for a keep tick, etc.
Less has always been more in this game. My advice to you and anyone else listening/reading is to open your damn eyes and see it for what it really is. All of the old core is gone now because of the direction that guild took. You wonder why? Because all of us got sick of carrying scrubs, got tired of not playing for 45 minutes listening to the same damn tired speeches, got sick of failing vs organized groups because of the massive chaos a huge blob causes.
I just want fights, good fights. I dont care if its 1v1, 2v2, 5v10, 20 v 20... number skew is fine, but if you think youre a pro guild because you can kill 10 guys with 50, I got some news for ya... thats actually really... really sad.
Gasp. Agrippa no!
BossTuggles wrote: »Damn Rylana is putting you guys on blast. I agree with everything stated as well. Over compensating for lack of gear/skill/levels/whatever you wanna call it with more people is all well and good. What you guys do though is just shameful. Ill deal with it though tons of kills and ap to be had we wont be leaving Azuras. However reading you people defending what you are doing is just ... ugh...
As an example. I am in a group with the LORD. A small group of 6. We are fighting a group of AD, I won't say full raid but at least 20, Running from us into tower I am not sure if they want to say this is "Farming" but noone really died in my group. Waiting for another group of at least 12 to come and help them. Those who have fought the LORD know we do not run big AoE bomb groups or anything. We don't even gear out or spec to take down groups like that. Yet you WAIT untill you have numbers that are just untouchable with the amount of competition you actually have. This is not tactics skill or anything this is just shameful.
I just hope others start seeing it. Its not salt or butthurt or any of that. I feel legit pity for those decent players still running with them that subject themselves to it. I suppose some of them might have fun, I dunno, but I can earn more AP in a couple hours with a six man GoS group than I ever did in a night with those guys.
The zerg meta being how it is now is choking the last life out of the overall game in Cyrodiil as it is. More need to emigrate away from it. Only then will we see a return to realistically decent fights where theres a sense of real accomplishment in beating your opponents, or a sense of real defeat when you get rolled.
When I got rolled vs a 50 man TKO team with a 16 man GoS team, I didnt feel beaten. Especially since we killed more than half of them before we went down. =/ In my eyes we actually won that fight.
God_flakes wrote: »Running in a zerg has become very passé, overrated and cowardly. I urge all
Of the "elite" players to do what I have done and stop hiding behind your zerg. Stop coming to the forums and patting yourself on the back and proclaiming you and your "23" players beat back hundreds to dominate a map when we all know and can all see its your 23 along with 60 others behind you, some grouped, some not. Form smaller groups and engage in smaller skirmishes and then lets see how bad you are.
RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Running in a zerg has become very passé, overrated and cowardly. I urge all
Of the "elite" players to do what I have done and stop hiding behind your zerg. Stop coming to the forums and patting yourself on the back and proclaiming you and your "23" players beat back hundreds to dominate a map when we all know and can all see its your 23 along with 60 others behind you, some grouped, some not. Form smaller groups and engage in smaller skirmishes and then lets see how bad you are.
Small Scale fighting has always been the most fun in this game.
Have to admit, that resource fight we had the other night was good stuff.
@Agrippa_Invisus So was that most humble and ouch filled tussle at Glademist to your liking?
Certainly the pups and Telel enjoyed themselves. Even if getting run over (repeatedly) by 20 or more blupers in a tight formation is not our strongsuit we like to think the eight of us gave a good show and provided our superior opponents some entertainment that also earned us a good chunk of OM NOM NOM NOM
Also this one escaped the fall of the keep through a handy escape mechanism known as gravity and zigging when one should have zagged.
houimetub17_ESO wrote: »houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Fact of matter is, the goal of the game is to flip keeps, scrolls and resscources and keep them. tell me rylana if im wrong but, cyrodiil is an arena or structured battleground?
No it is not. The game is based o massive pvp fight with lots of players. Sorry for playing the game as intended.
I could use mch harsher arguments but I wont as I dont want to go the same path your going right now
Anyone subscribing to that playstyle and considering themselves good is delusional. Excuses on why they lose with massively superior numbers, flat out lies from the officers to the junior members on what is going on, just a pack of wolves leading a bunch of lemmings to slaughter. What TKO really is now is a core of about 8-10 mediocre to fairly decent players surrounded by 40+ bads they use as fodder so they arent targeted first.
Take that core out of the blob and they get trainwrecked. I know this because I used to be part of that inner group, watching everyone around me die as the tiny inner core did all of the work.
Theres a reason players like me always seemed to make the biggest difference when we actually played with that group, because taken as a single person, I am better than 8-10 combined of those so called organized members that are fielded. I rez, I move, I set siege, I self heal. Etc. I dont need 50 people around me to accomplish my goal. Six to eight of us in GoS working together flipped a whole damn ring in an hour before, even numbers defended.
Taking empty keeps, only engaging with overwhelming odds, "farming" smaller groups for tiny 100 ticks, this doesnt make people better players, it actually makes them worse and more reliant.
Thankfully I threw that yoke off and went back to my small group roots. In those groups, everyone has to carry their own weight. You dont have 10 people off crown sitting afk in a keep pming their pve buddies that just happen to show up for a keep tick, etc.
Less has always been more in this game. My advice to you and anyone else listening/reading is to open your damn eyes and see it for what it really is. All of the old core is gone now because of the direction that guild took. You wonder why? Because all of us got sick of carrying scrubs, got tired of not playing for 45 minutes listening to the same damn tired speeches, got sick of failing vs organized groups because of the massive chaos a huge blob causes.
I just want fights, good fights. I dont care if its 1v1, 2v2, 5v10, 20 v 20... number skew is fine, but if you think youre a pro guild because you can kill 10 guys with 50, I got some news for ya... thats actually really... really sad.
So much trashtalk. I get it now, you want a who-has-the-biggest-one-in-his-pants contest?
You know what you sound like? A running-back from when I was playing football claiming he could 1v1 anyone. But guess what? It's not how it works.
It works with the points on the score-board. And as long as you are playing inside the rules, this is all that matters. Its the only way to properly measure who's winning and who is not.
Go ahead and play the though guy with your 5v5 bull crap if it makes you feel any better or help you sustain that inflated ego of yours. Truth is, the game does not support that type of gameplay. Do do me a big favor and stop plugging such non-sense on these forums.
You want 1v1, 2v2, 5v10, 20 v 20 pvp? pls click here and leave us the *** alone ---- https://www.guildwars2.com/
Because until proven otherwise, you sound just like a sore loser who wants to publicly insult a former guild because he is unable to beat them.
P.S. The fact that you killed half of our new/non-fully built/leveled players and brag about it on the forums is of such bad state coming from you. Surprisingly disapointing.