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  • Ace_SiN
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    Usually you at least link the patch notes in these types of threads..

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166325/patch-notes-v2-0-6#latest
    Edited by Ace_SiN on April 20, 2015 2:15PM
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  • HeroOfNone
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    Aw, and I had a meme all ready and everything =(
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  • Rook_Master
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    Group Leader Bug Fix?

    I'll believe it when I see it.

    I still remember how many times Postern Doors were 'fixed'.
  • xMovingTarget
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    HeroOfNone wrote: »
    Aw, and I had a meme all ready and everything =(

    No dank memes for you today :p
  • Keron
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    tengri wrote: »
    Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before.
    Wow. Just wow.
    A very subtile approach to start pushing sales of the Dwemer Motifs in the Clown Store...
    Thats exactly what I thought too.
    I stopped for a second there... then continued, thinking "well, I have it complete..."
    Edited by Keron on April 20, 2015 2:37PM
  • HeroOfNone
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    They reduced the drop rate in a no danger loot location and an overly farmed delve. Not surprised, and despite the crown store additions I bet the price for my motif pages will still go pretty high.

    Also the cost reduction is on armor and weapons, not the green/blue/purple drops. Getting 10k in an hour is still pretty easy with good lockpick and safe box rotations =3
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  • GaldorP
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    You will now receive a full Enlightenment pool (equal to 12 days of Enlightenment) when first unlocking the Champion System on your account.
    Does this also apply to accounts that have already unlocked the system before this patch? :)
  • SpAEkus
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    Wow!

    I'm going so slow since patch 1.6 that they are nerfing all the new content before I've even checked it out.

    Kinda sad reading all the new patch notes of the lucrative areas/content that I missed already.
  • Davadin
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    HeroOfNone wrote: »

    Also the cost reduction is on armor and weapons, not the green/blue/purple drops. Getting 10k in an hour is still pretty easy with good lockpick and safe box rotations =3

    but thats wehre i make my money. go to the vendors, clean their stuff, go to the crafter stations, clean their stuff and safe boxes.

    stealing/looting containers is good, and unaffected, i understand, but it's not as profitable i found compared to grab 3 dozens of great sword and 2 dozens of heavy armors.

    safe box rotations? Buddy, we gotta talk. lol

    ps: so where is the Legerdemain forum?
    Edited by Davadin on April 20, 2015 2:44PM
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  • Davadin
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    tengri wrote: »
    Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before.

    Wow. Just wow.
    A very subtile approach to start pushing sales of the Dwemer Motifs in the Crown Store...

    Thats exactly what I thought too.

    We understand why you may think that, but these two areas had many more containers than other Dwemer locations and needed to be normalized. It had nothing to do with what's available in the Crown Store. Also, the other part of that note was left out of the quote, and we want to make sure that part isn't forgotten as it's important - we are planning to increase the number of containers in other Dwemer locations in the near future to compensate.

    but whats with the 30% value of stolen goodies?
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  • HeroOfNone
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    tengri wrote: »
    Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before.

    Wow. Just wow.
    A very subtile approach to start pushing sales of the Dwemer Motifs in the Crown Store...

    Thats exactly what I thought too.

    We understand why you may think that, but these two areas had many more containers than other Dwemer locations and needed to be normalized. It had nothing to do with what's available in the Crown Store. Also, the other part of that note was left out of the quote, and we want to make sure that part isn't forgotten as it's important - we are planning to increase the number of containers in other Dwemer locations in the near future to compensate.

    Speaking of increasing, let me toss out an idea to increase the number in dungeons as well, Vollenfell and Darkshade, if they are completed on hard modes or maybe up to some of the tall pillars. A sort of risk/reward for taking the time in there outside the normal dungeon runs.
    Edited by HeroOfNone on April 20, 2015 2:58PM
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  • Giraffon
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    I'm just glad they didn't mess with Templar's Breath of Life like they hinted they would last week.

    Still waiting on solution to PvP Meteor spamming though.
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  • Sylvyr
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    tengri wrote: »
    Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before.

    Wow. Just wow.
    A very subtile approach to start pushing sales of the Dwemer Motifs in the Clown Store...

    No way, they would never do that
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  • driosketch
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    I never liked the Fighter's Guild quest one. Always preferred the early zone Dwemer ruins for easier runs. This pass week I've been pulling a page almost every trip. Hell, I pulled a page out of the containers just outside Mournhold this weekend. Anecdotal, I know, but it feels like the drop rates for Dwemer pages has shot up for me, same for the gears for crafting frames.
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  • Iluvrien
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    tengri wrote: »
    Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before.

    Wow. Just wow.
    A very subtile approach to start pushing sales of the Dwemer Motifs in the Crown Store...

    Thats exactly what I thought too.

    We understand why you may think that, but these two areas had many more containers than other Dwemer locations and needed to be normalized. It had nothing to do with what's available in the Crown Store. Also, the other part of that note was left out of the quote, and we want to make sure that part isn't forgotten as it's important - we are planning to increase the number of containers in other Dwemer locations in the near future to compensate.

    And yet I am afraid it still doesn't make a great deal of sense.

    The logic that seems to be outlined above suggests that because that location was overly productive it had to be "normalized"... ok, I follow you so far... but then you go on to mention that to compensate for this you will be increasing the number of containers in other locations... at which point that particular logical progression runs into a O.o

    If, roughly, the same amount (or even greater) capacity is going to exist then what is the logic behind it? I can see a couple of possibilities, some good and some bad:

    Good
    1) You want to make in more likely that anyone doing any ruin might get a motif rather than forcing everyone to cluster in a couple of instances. (This only works if the capacity you add really is higher)
    2) You want to spread out the population through the different ruins so as to decrease server load (as per recent responses to the lag in PvP). (Possibly unlikely but still possible)

    or

    Bad
    3) This really is a nerf designed to decrease the availability of motifs and so push the Crown Store versions. (This will seem to be the case if the capacity you add back is lower... or you take a long time to add it back)
    4) As above but using a different mechanic. (Adding a similar amount of capacity to deflect criticism but banking on the fact that although the hardcore farmers may continue to run circuits, many of the less obsessed farmers will likely conclude their runs after only a few circuits due to the distance between ruins... thus making a lower number of containers available in the same time).

    I really really hope that the reason is 1 or 2 or another Good option I haven't spotted... because, sadly, these days I really wouldn't trust it to not be 3 or 4 or something of that ilk.
    Edited by Iluvrien on April 20, 2015 3:28PM
  • Ageless
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    Davadin wrote: »
    but thats wehre i make my money. go to the vendors, clean their stuff, go to the crafter stations, clean their stuff and safe boxes.

    stealing/looting containers is good, and unaffected, i understand, but it's not as profitable i found compared to grab 3 dozens of great sword and 2 dozens of heavy armors.

    And the fun thing is, not everyone knows this. I see many who look in all the containers, but neglect the weapons/armor hanging in the open, probably because they think they're worthless. Which now that they're nerfed to 30% of the previous value, they are.

    What's the point of adding points to Trafficker in Legerdemain now, when the pay-out of loot is nothing?
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  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    Oh well, I guess Avanchnzel was really too good to be left alone. Pity they waited long enough to make players angry for "balancing" it.
  • wraith808
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    Davadin wrote: »
    tengri wrote: »
    Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before.

    Wow. Just wow.
    A very subtile approach to start pushing sales of the Dwemer Motifs in the Crown Store...

    Thats exactly what I thought too.

    We understand why you may think that, but these two areas had many more containers than other Dwemer locations and needed to be normalized. It had nothing to do with what's available in the Crown Store. Also, the other part of that note was left out of the quote, and we want to make sure that part isn't forgotten as it's important - we are planning to increase the number of containers in other Dwemer locations in the near future to compensate.

    but whats with the 30% value of stolen goodies?

    They were too high. It was very easy for a thief to be very rich.
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  • Robbmrp
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    tengri wrote: »
    Due to extensive pillaging, many containers in Mzeneldt (the Dwemer ruins from the Fighters Guild questline) and Avanchnzel (the Dwemer delve located in the Rift) have been ransacked, causing many of them to be emptier than before.

    Wow. Just wow.
    A very subtile approach to start pushing sales of the Dwemer Motifs in the Crown Store...

    Thats exactly what I thought too.

    We understand why you may think that, but these two areas had many more containers than other Dwemer locations and needed to be normalized. It had nothing to do with what's available in the Crown Store. Also, the other part of that note was left out of the quote, and we want to make sure that part isn't forgotten as it's important - we are planning to increase the number of containers in other Dwemer locations in the near future to compensate.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno,

    Hello Gina,

    When will instanced Dungeons have all containers reset for groups entering them? It's so frustrating when you go into a dungeon and everything in there is already empty. I'm not talking about Group Dungeons either. At times the chests/containers in the Normal and Vet dungeons have nothing in them.
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