Should Alliance Rank be account wide?

AbraXuSeXile

I'm rank 47 in a few days playing only one character since the start, hell no.

This idea is stupid, earn the rank. I dont want to see freshly rerolled fotm noobs with same rank as me.

luther_revan

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

Keron wrote: »

Maybe a compromise could be found?

Retain Rank, title, skill points on a per character basis.

Unlock the alliance war skills (that are rank limited) accountwide, but only for characters that have started into the champion system (have reached Veteran Ranks)

This way, the non-vet campaign is saved from being run over with pimp-twinks, you remove the godawful grind to get the skills unlocked on a secondary character but you still have to get the recognition (alliance rank) and skill points for each character separately.

The purpose of making alliance rank account-wide is to make it more feasible for a larger number of players to have more than one PvP char. Maybe with this option, both sides could agree on. The one side does not loose everything and the other side does not get everything.

Yes, I do realize that there are people with more than one Rank-24 character but I bet my ass that a much larger number of players won't ever do that because they find the rank grind to unlock skills so tedious.

But with my recent experience in trying to bring in a compromise into a heated discussion, it probably will just get ignored or bashed or even removed for troll baiting. SCNR.

I totally agree with the idea:). That could be the best compromise. Maybe the skill unlock could be an alliance one. Like: all new X char will have the skills but if I choose to go with Y then I have to earn these.

Jeddite_Eso

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

It's sad for me that 50% of the posts that say NO also think the CP shouldnt be also ... that just will make live of those who dont want to play just 1 char real nightmare, i mean imagine if some1 what to max 2 chars both cp and ap not shared what his rl will look like .. will take years to make just 2 with hard core grind now imagine what will cost you to make 3rd?
People will get bored and leave if things have to be like this much faster then if it's not, and i dont rly wanna use bad language so wont bother discribe the ppl left that will enjoy this kind of thing.

Will this other characters be any problem for the people who wanna play just one? - No
Will lvl 10 on non vet campain with all unclocked cause problem for others who just starting?- Mby but it can always be made to get all rank share only after vet.
Will this cause people mostly join 1 side to farm them? - Mby but if so can always be made ally side only chars . That wont stop you from trying out new classes with your guild...

Ally rank most of the time(not counting the people who just go and grind not using any thought) is showing how good you know the game. There are many v14 even who havent played other classes dont know their skills yet so its not hard for low lvl alt char to kill them. If ranks were shared its easy for the new people to see who have played the game longer and to be a bit more careful. Even getting into groups will be much better, if you see a group for example with lvl 1 ally rank and 1st order he says is we go that keep no regroup no organisation you will get much clear picture. Normally a high lvl rank will know at least some tactics, will have some information about the ally and enemy guilds.

Rook_Master

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

Absolutely Alliance Rank should be account-wide.

You're talking about a grind that takes over a year for a casual player. Nothing else even comes close, except the Champion System, and guess what? That's account-wide.

idk

Account wide would only work if it was per alliance. Have a couple characters in AD and they share the level. Roll an alt in DC and your starting over. I'd vote but with the selections as they are id have to vote no.

Giraffon

No, Alliance Rank should stay on each character

This is a big fat NO in my book. Having extra characters to play has its own rewards, but for those rewards, you must be willing to work.

Jeddite_Eso

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

Giraffon wrote: »

This is a big fat NO in my book. Having extra characters to play has its own rewards, but for those rewards, you must be willing to work.

Why?
Give me 1 reason why people shouldnt make more then 1 char?
Its only making pvp worse ... if you play all classes you know all their limits and how to play vs all styles ..
I said i didnt wanna use bad words but ... if ppl have to be limited they get bored faster and in the end only ppl left hardcore nl some1 wannabe or b2w what is the point ?

joshisanonymous

No, Alliance Rank should stay on each character

Soris wrote: »

Yes since it discourages to making alt characters solely for pvp.

I remember when people used to make alts with the understanding that it took some time and effort to level them. This mentality that says that alts need to start out where your current character, that you've actually put the time into already, left off is mind-boggling to me.

If I completed everything in the game on one character, there's absolutely no good reason why that should automatically entitle me to never having to put a second worth of work into any other character ever again. In fact, that robs me of the experience of getting to watch a character develop, which is what RPGs are supposed to be about.

Jeddite_Eso

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

joshisanonymous wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Yes since it discourages to making alt characters solely for pvp.

I remember when people used to make alts with the understanding that it took some time and effort to level them. This mentality that says that alts need to start out where your current character, that you've actually put the time into already, left off is mind-boggling to me.

If I completed everything in the game on one character, there's absolutely no good reason why that should automatically entitle me to never having to put a second worth of work into any other character ever again. In fact, that robs me of the experience of getting to watch a character develop, which is what RPGs are supposed to be about.

by the end of the year when we have about 1000 CP will you quit cause your char cant start from 0 instead have x2 stats and lvl 1? Truth is nothing is the same when you make the 2nd char you already been there done that know how it ends and so on...

Stamden

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

Giraffon wrote: »

This is a big fat NO in my book. Having extra characters to play has its own rewards, but for those rewards, you must be willing to work.

What rewards? The main reason for playing an alt is to change your playstyle. That doesn't necessarily mean it's better.

Stamden

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

joshisanonymous wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Yes since it discourages to making alt characters solely for pvp.

I remember when people used to make alts with the understanding that it took some time and effort to level them. This mentality that says that alts need to start out where your current character, that you've actually put the time into already, left off is mind-boggling to me.

If I completed everything in the game on one character, there's absolutely no good reason why that should automatically entitle me to never having to put a second worth of work into any other character ever again. In fact, that robs me of the experience of getting to watch a character develop, which is what RPGs are supposed to be about.

What? You still level up to VR14, all your skills, skyshards, lorebooks, fighters guild, dungeons, etc. It will still take 300h+ just to complete that.

WhitePawPrints

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

My main as a Templar took a really long time to reach the rank of Sergeant with dozens and dozens of hours in Cyrodil. I don't do stupid AP suicide farming, I play to defend, conquer and survive.

I started a Nightblade with the purpose of being good at PVP, and it's annoying to have to start all that rank grinding over again.

Maybe the hundreds of requests to change the credentials for Emperor should be implemented so that suicide farms and sacrifice of all keeps for grinding will no longer be a thing, then maybe a lot opposing the idea will change their tune.

Alliance-based wide is a better idea, I agree with that. Just makes more sense.

Theosis

No, Alliance Rank should stay on each character

I say no, however this is only brought up because of how damn crazy long it takes to level it.. They should change that. Ive been stuck at rank 4 in assault and defense for months.

Very disheartening to say the least. I feel as if I cant accomplish much if I spend hours on it an I see no results.

Jeddite_Eso

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

Well zos said that lowering AP needed is not an option, but they may consider making it shared in acc so sry Theosis.

Usara

Yes, Alliance Rank should be account wide

I may have missed a post, but I haven't seen anyone actually talking about some pvp skills NEEDED to be competitive in PVE (I'm looking at you Caltrops)

I'm a PvE player. I don't like PvP. Oh, sure, it is fun sometimes. But it is fun only when I want to go for fun. Grinding for the Caltrops (yes, I know it's only rank 12, but it's a lot for someone who doesn't like PvP and/or doesn't have a lot of time to go In Cyrodiil).
So when you have two, three, four characters that need a skill for PvE, you have to spent weeks and weeks of playing something you don't like ?

I have seen some sensible arguments here, like allowing only vet chars to access the skills you have already earned on another char. Mind you, I would be very happy if vet14 was needed to unlock them even.

For the title though, I aggree it should be only on the char that actually did it. But the skills, that's just plainly stupid.

Or make the skills unlocked in PvP only usable in Cyro, so PvE players like me won't have to whine about it