[GRIND] 700-750k exp/h - Cracked Wood Cave with math

Sylvyr

desciviib14_ESO wrote: »

I rolled through a couple times and there were all 3 factions with a simple agreement to leave each other alone and so it was. Every now and then we'd accidentally hit another player and you'd get a single shot back but it was fair and it worked...it was weird seeing the opposing faction flag over players but not actually attacking. Almost Pavlovian when you see the flag

This is shameful.

It's a PvP Zone and INTENDED for PvP play. I consider this to be an exploitive agreement amongst players that flies in the face of the intent of the zone. Furthermore, ZoS, you should have better "grinds" outside of Cyrodiil or this topic will become one of long lasting QQ.

I will kill any enemy I see in a delve. Don't send me tells asking for agreements. You can send me a QQ whisper if you want I like those though.

zeitzbachrwb17_ESO

Davadin wrote: »

so instead of playing the game as its meant to be played (questing, crafting, pve and pvp, sneaking, raiding, bla bla bla....), people just prefer to GRIND to hit VR14 and do.........

....what?

Oh well. Have those in every MMO.

le grinders.

"Play anyway you want"
"OH NO YOU GRIND THAT IS SO WRONG!"

wat?

Bouvin

Xjcon wrote: »

Is this thread bait? Someone trying to get low level grinders to go to a certain cave/Delve so they have more targets available for ganks?

Sylvyr

zeitzbachrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

so instead of playing the game as its meant to be played (questing, crafting, pve and pvp, sneaking, raiding, bla bla bla....), people just prefer to GRIND to hit VR14 and do.........

....what?

Oh well. Have those in every MMO.

le grinders.

"Play anyway you want"
"OH NO YOU GRIND THAT IS SO WRONG!"

wat?

The quicker people get to max level, the sooner they see end game issues. Notice ZoS doesn't mind gear grinds they put into the game. but XP grinds seems a bit touchy at the moment.

zeitzbachrwb17_ESO

Sylvyr wrote: »

zeitzbachrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

so instead of playing the game as its meant to be played (questing, crafting, pve and pvp, sneaking, raiding, bla bla bla....), people just prefer to GRIND to hit VR14 and do.........

....what?

Oh well. Have those in every MMO.

le grinders.

"Play anyway you want"
"OH NO YOU GRIND THAT IS SO WRONG!"

wat?

The quicker people get to max level, the sooner they see end game issues. Notice ZoS doesn't mind gear grinds they put into the game. but XP grinds seems a bit touchy at the moment.

Every MMO has end-game issue because PvE will never be hard without putting in super stupid overnumber craps like in GW2 where everyone abuse LoS to wall AoE and is forced to play with instakill everywhere like a masochist just to go "OMFG SO FUN" when it's more like "LOL THIS IS DUMB" *cough, Fractal*

It's always raid for gear or PVP/war that is the endgame in MMOs and It's usually only the PvP/war that lives. The only reason we PvE end game is to find gears and farm mats to craft items for PvP.

Valymer

So it's been a couple patches now, and still not nerfed?

What happened to all those doomsayers that swore up and down that this was gonna get nerfed?

Teiji

QuadroTony wrote: »

8 champion points in a day with grind better that 2 with regular pve/pvp thing

Yeah, 3.2 mill exp in a day is wonderful; my AD v3 NB needs 11 million exp and I can only get about 200 - 220k exp per hour from a different Cyrodiil grind with my incredible v3 dps. Ten hours for two veteran ranks, hooray...

QuadroTony

Valymer wrote: »

So it's been a couple patches now, and still not nerfed?

What happened to all those doomsayers that swore up and down that this was gonna get nerfed?

yes its not nerfed

QuadroTony

well in Tempest island, scaled to lvl 48
in party of two ppl vr14 and vr1

leader was 48 lvl out of the dungeon

so we get like 1600 exp per mob(48lvl)
its very good, but i think density is still not enough

cupelix14

Threads like these and the deluge of complaints that follow are hysterical.

"Thanks for posting it jerk, keep your mouth shut next time!"

Yeah...you're deluding yourself if you don't think the people running a game like this know what's going on in their game. Any time some spot is discovered that gives tons of XP, or currency, or anything, they know when people are using (or abusing) those spots. Maybe they look the other way on it, and maybe they don't. But usually they'll nerf it.

All that happens by keeping it secret usually is a delay of the inevitable. For every person who is willing to keep it under wraps, there are 5 people who want recognition for posting about it or putting it on YouTube. Regardless if people talk or don't, "they" know.

They're not eliminating grinding. If grinding mudcrabs all day makes you happy, you're still more than welcome. They nerfed it and you don't like it? Well there's a little clause in the TOS that says something like "gameplay experience subject to change". If they take away an eezy-cheezy means of farming in one spot, move on to something else. Make no mistake about it though, they are aware of what players are doing and they make the rules.

QuadroTony

btw any videos with those mudcrabs before the nerf?

Julianos

QuadroTony wrote: »

This is the topic about one of the best grind spots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6UF5xkVPBo

Broim wrote: »

Hi, I was the one that made this video. Only reason we got 750k xp/hour in this clip is because we hade some PvP action just before I started to record... so we lost some xp/hour.
When I grinded VR 12-14 we made 840k xp/hour but I didn't record that. You can easily get 800k xp/hour if you are in a grp with another player, time all spawns right and dont get to much PvP action.

Now i have the numbers and the calculations
i made it with ESO+ 10% exp buff and Enlighhtment(x4 exp buff), solo

any regular mob - 1456 exp
summoned mobs - 0
chest - 4024 exp
boss - 2912 exp
player kill - 8860 exp

bonuses:
heavy sacks
gems(from boses)
Aspect runes
Martial Knowledge items, 30-60k per piece

mobs per route - 71(103376 exp)
chests per route ~ 4(16096 exp)
bosses per route - 3(8736)
PK per hour ~ 5(44300)-20 - related to online of campaign

average time of the route - 6 min(solo)

EXP PER HOUR(my case) = 1.326.380 per hour
without enlightment bonus ~330k - but i am NB

and now imagine how much you will get in group of 2 persons. without enlightment, but with group bonus exp(afaik 10%?) and SPEED BONUS because of group

~500k exp per hour in worst case, and sorc from the video above make 700k

thnx man i will try it asap

Mettaricana

the exp is no better than any vet zone or other cyrodil exp enemies all give the same exp regardless just whatever delve is better laid out for your character to abuse... i just tried thsi dungeon ran through it like 12 times and honestly i got more exp running around vet 8 zone overworld.

QuadroTony

Mettaricana wrote: »

the exp is no better than any vet zone or other cyrodil exp enemies all give the same exp regardless just whatever delve is better laid out for your character to abuse... i just tried thsi dungeon ran through it like 12 times and honestly i got more exp running around vet 8 zone overworld.

look at the video
it will explain all
ther is no vetter place at the Tamriel right now

Brasseurfb16_ESO

QuadroTony wrote: »

Blazemaster wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

as you say, arrow-in-a-knee corpse

Just as I thought you won't duel, and you whispered me I didn't whisper you pathetic.

sweet-sweet duelist tears
i feel your rage

Still doing it... What part of Flaming/Baiting do you not get?

F7sus4

QuadroTony wrote: »

they will not nerf it because its in PVP location

And I will not die, because I'm alive. How naive.

Mobs number decreased, respawn timer increased.
Solved, buried. Thank you.

QuadroTony

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Mobs number decreased, respawn timer increased.
Solved, buried. Thank you.[/quote]

lol
cave still the same as month before
my guildmate already on 190 CP and grinding it evry day

look at the first post date - still not fixed

as i told

i am a Prophet

F7sus4

Valymer wrote: »

I disagree, they are not going to nerf it because people grinding here accomplishes exactly what ZOS wants people to do in Cyrodiil, which is SPREAD OUT.

This is naive assumption. No raiding groups will abandon their choo-choo train zerg-raiding mission just to farm some XP. They will still exist and keep "being" the main server overload "cause". So those few enlightened people doing their grind in the cave won't save the world by decreasing the lag by noticeable amount (or any amount at all). Sorry to disappoint you.

nastuug

QuadroTony wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

the exp is no better than any vet zone or other cyrodil exp enemies all give the same exp regardless just whatever delve is better laid out for your character to abuse... i just tried thsi dungeon ran through it like 12 times and honestly i got more exp running around vet 8 zone overworld.

look at the video
it will explain all
ther is no vetter place at the Tamriel right now

Just because you haven't found one doesn't mean there isn't a better place, kind sir.

QuadroTony

F7sus4 wrote: »

This is naive assumption. No raiding groups will abandon their choo-choo train zerg-raiding mission just to farm some XP. They will keep being and keep "doing" server overload. Those 3-4 enlightened people doing their grind in the cave won't save the world be decreasing lag by noticeable amount (or any amount at all). Sorry to disappoint you.

oh cmon stop lie

i saw many times El_Amanacer, Diamanda and other top AD players there, just for gank
its my guildmates

F7sus4

QuadroTony wrote: »

i saw many times El_Amanacer, Diamanda and other top AD players there, just for gank
its my guildmates

That's what I'm explaining to you. Your presence there does not solve any cause of server lagging, because the reason for it is people doing massive choo-choo trains. Even if you're in the cave, choo-choo still runs on his rails out there, m'kay.

kkravaritieb17_ESO

Wish there was a lol button still...

QuadroTony

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

Wish there was a lol button still...

its Insightful now

but as you can see i got 3 Insightful and 20 Awesome for first post
this mean people like my topic alot

kkravaritieb17_ESO

Insightful....make me laugh more.

F7sus4

QuadroTony wrote: »

but as you can see i got 3 Insightful and 20 Awesome for first post
this mean people like my topic alot

Because it allows noobs to know XP grind locations that every pro-player already knows.

Torquebow

Thanks for showing this on the forums, now it will probably be nerfed or very crowded to say the least....First rule of finding clever usage of game mechanics is you don't go to the damn forums to share it with everyone.

P3ZZL3

I went there once. Can't say it was anything special. Second and third time, insta killed by AD's hanging around there.

There are better spots to grind in Cyro imo - certainly for DC or EP.

QuadroTony

Torquebow wrote: »

Thanks for showing this on the forums, now it will probably be nerfed or very crowded to say the least....First rule of finding clever usage of game mechanics is you don't go to the damn forums to share it with everyone.

check the date of first post

Torquebow

QuadroTony wrote: »

Torquebow wrote: »

Thanks for showing this on the forums, now it will probably be nerfed or very crowded to say the least....First rule of finding clever usage of game mechanics is you don't go to the damn forums to share it with everyone.

check the date of first post

I did... and......?

QuadroTony

so your congradulations was too late