[GRIND] 700-750k exp/h - Cracked Wood Cave with math

Frawr

Ley wrote: »

If you take a good grinding spot, tell everyone about it, effectively adding 40 players trying to grind it at a time, it turns into a terrible grinding spot. Add the element of it being in a pvp zone and now you just have a spot where people go to level but instead get killed; more like a meat grinder than an exp grind.

This is the problem. 2 people can keep it clear.

3rd person tagging mobs =25% less xp per kill
4th person tagging the mobs = 50% less xp per kill.

ttk the whole dungeon doesn't improve with 3-4people because 2 can already do it. There is no bonus to having more people. Just lost xp.


I'm happy to kill enemies in there for bonus xp but, frankly, telling everyone about it just makes it worse than craglorn xp gain and you have just ruined it for yourself and for everyone else. I cant kill other DC players!

Teiji

Good morning friends and fellow grinders; just checking into this delightful thread as I enjoy my morning Lemon + Ginger tea, good to see the terrifying carebear menace isn't trying to assert their propaganda through vicious, angry text.

Anywhoo, when it comes to Cyrodiil and experience points; Bruma + Cheydinhal are very good places to haunt, you get to gank loads of lowbies, some v14s, the occasional l33t Auriel's Bow pvper, plus out of all the other pve quest hubs, Bruma + Cheydinhal allow you to get experience points and gold most efficiently.

So, if you just do Bruma + Cheydinhal, then one of the spots conveniently listed here, you'll be well on the path to your old V14 power level in a timely fashion.

#FixElusiveMistDamageReduction
#StopTheCareBearMenace
#2.1KSpellDamage7/7HeavyArmor+27kSpellResistance

QuadroTony

i have two alts low level red and blue

i reqruiting and advertice this grind in low level locations by they

after this i join to my main AD hero and start killing newbies

pppontus

QuadroTony wrote: »

i have two alts low level red and blue

i reqruiting and advertice this grind in low level locations by they

after this i join to my main AD hero and start killing newbies

You can do this to EP all you want, but killing MY newbies. I'll hunt you down man. Cya tonight.. maybe..

QuadroTony

cya in PVP

QuadroTony

i jut kill solo 6 red players inide

QuadroTony

templar with 165 CH points, farming good too today
not so fast like sorc but quite enough

QuadroTony

also i got like 200k gold every day jut selling martial knowledge pieces from this dungeon

pretty nice

QuadroTony

/pushups
on the red grinder

Dre4dwolfb14_ESO

Frawr wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

If you take a good grinding spot, tell everyone about it, effectively adding 40 players trying to grind it at a time, it turns into a terrible grinding spot. Add the element of it being in a pvp zone and now you just have a spot where people go to level but instead get killed; more like a meat grinder than an exp grind.

This is the problem. 2 people can keep it clear.

3rd person tagging mobs =25% less xp per kill
4th person tagging the mobs = 50% less xp per kill.

ttk the whole dungeon doesn't improve with 3-4people because 2 can already do it. There is no bonus to having more people. Just lost xp.


I'm happy to kill enemies in there for bonus xp but, frankly, telling everyone about it just makes it worse than craglorn xp gain and you have just ruined it for yourself and for everyone else. I cant kill other DC players!

This is why I am an advocate for larger zones , more mob density, faster respawns and make it so that when mobs run long distances they still fight you (because the current radius from the spawn point) for most mobs frankly sucks, 40% of the time the mob just heals to full and runs back to its spawn, which makes me just chase it back again.... annoying and boring.


Then again I am used to leveling in mmos like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZw-VjqU-8
SO I am a bit bias.

^^
Cut the BS, let me murder wholesale!

The only way PVE gets fun is if you have 100 mobs crashing down on your char and your health bar fluctuates from 2% to 60% (fueled by life leach) mid combat back and forth while your dishing out tons of AOE in hopes that your Mana doesn't run out before the mobs HP bars all do.

In WoW I went 1 to 90 with bots.
Then all I did was raid and pvp because. . . frankly I don't give a *** about completing the mission to "kill 190 turtles so that I can get the 190xp + the free blueberry pie that restores 1000 hp and and Mana over 90s <.<
The mob respawns were soooo slow and the mob density . . . so scarce . . .

This game is actually pretty good for mob density if you only play with ONE other person, as soon as another group enters your area the game becomes unplayable . . . you just endup fighting over the same mobs and you cant even pvp them to get them out of your zone (so frustrating) I just wana PK these fools and get them away from me.
If you want a farming spot, you should have to pk everyone in there, defend it and EARN the XP IN BLOOD.

QuadroTony

Dre4dwolfb14_ESO wrote: »

If you want a farming spot, you should have to pk everyone in there, defend it and EARN the XP IN BLOOD.

agreed

QuadroTony

One more thing - i got like 200 soul gems just farming this

Teiji

So what's the traffic like?

I intend to emigrate for the happy-fun-times; the possibility of being featured in a screenshot is ever-so alluring.

milan.verploegenb16_ESO

Good post ^^ + for that

However, (lazy math incoming) 800kcp/hr = 2cp/hr --> 3600/2 = 1800 hours --> 1800 hrs/24 = 75 days of 24h playtime.

Compare to 1800 hrs of work with lets say 13EUR/hr = 23.4k euros... Wait 6 months and pay some guy 5k for a 3600 champ point eso account... EZ

Sotha_Sil

I'd like to thank the OP for giving me a good AP farm spot. #killthegrinders #makeniceAP #farmorefuntokillpeoplethangrindingmobs

wOOOOt_of_SD

Too bad its in the wrong part of the map ;p

DisgracefulMind

My partner and I got like 30+k AP from this cave the other night wiping a huge AD group. Keep grinding on plz

QuadroTony

wiping a huge red group right now

hail AD!

Sacadon

QuadroTony wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

We have a bunch of Rocket Scientists here. Folks were complaining about loosing the grinding spots. Crying about they now have no way to speed up xp gain and leveling unless they now do quests. Then a spot is found and walla it's posted in the forums so ZOS knows about it and can fix the exploit. Smart move people I got to laugh.

they will not fix it, for sure

^^ rocket scientist

QuadroTony

Sacadon wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

We have a bunch of Rocket Scientists here. Folks were complaining about loosing the grinding spots. Crying about they now have no way to speed up xp gain and leveling unless they now do quests. Then a spot is found and walla it's posted in the forums so ZOS knows about it and can fix the exploit. Smart move people I got to laugh.

they will not fix it, for sure

^^ rocket scientist

not rly

byrom101b16_ESO

Endurance wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

Endurance wrote: »

people like you are the reason why i feel like quitting this game

why?

look man if you find a good grinding spot DONT POST IT HERE, its not helpful because ZOS is nerfing every one of these spots its making it harder to level up in the future

Zenimax have been nerfing such spots since 1.6 launched and we get an OP practically ensuring their spot gets nerfed.

Two possible reasons for this;

1) They are oblivious to what happens once Zenimax find out, or;

2) They have got all the levelling benefit they want out of it and now want it nerfed to preserve the perceived 'lead' they got from it.

Let's hope it's just general lack of awareness that is the cause here...

Makkir

Teiji wrote: »

Good morning friends and fellow grinders; just checking into this delightful thread as I enjoy my morning Lemon + Ginger tea, good to see the terrifying carebear menace isn't trying to assert their propaganda through vicious, angry text.

Anywhoo, when it comes to Cyrodiil and experience points; Bruma + Cheydinhal are very good places to haunt, you get to gank loads of lowbies, some v14s, the occasional l33t Auriel's Bow pvper, plus out of all the other pve quest hubs, Bruma + Cheydinhal allow you to get experience points and gold most efficiently.

So, if you just do Bruma + Cheydinhal, then one of the spots conveniently listed here, you'll be well on the path to your old V14 power level in a timely fashion.

#FixElusiveMistDamageReduction
#StopTheCareBearMenace
#2.1KSpellDamage7/7HeavyArmor+27kSpellResistance

I think discouraging and chasing players away from ESO is the last thing you want to do. Not like there are 13 million subscribers or anything.

Junipus

QuadroTony wrote: »

/pushups
on the red grinder

You stole my hat!

I will now have to come into that delve to get it back from you. I'll be there hunting the hunter.

Cody

THE ALL IS LOST MOMENT!!!!!!!

/QUES EPIC OPERA MUSIC

Valymer

byrom101b16_ESO wrote: »

Endurance wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

Endurance wrote: »

people like you are the reason why i feel like quitting this game

why?

look man if you find a good grinding spot DONT POST IT HERE, its not helpful because ZOS is nerfing every one of these spots its making it harder to level up in the future

Zenimax have been nerfing such spots since 1.6 launched and we get an OP practically ensuring their spot gets nerfed.

Two possible reasons for this;

1) They are oblivious to what happens once Zenimax find out, or;

2) They have got all the levelling benefit they want out of it and now want it nerfed to preserve the perceived 'lead' they got from it.

Let's hope it's just general lack of awareness that is the cause here...

Did you even read the thread?

QuadroTony

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

/pushups
on the red grinder

You stole my hat!

I will now have to come into that delve to get it back from you. I'll be there hunting the hunter.

i will w8 for you, darling

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

thanks for getting another grind nerfed. just share with a friend. its already hard enough to level if you dont feel like doing every single quest for the 2nd or 3rd time.

your for real surprised people dont want you to flood grind spots, ending in nerf? thats really surprising?

QuadroTony

delicious pve tears

Avenias

QuadroTony wrote: »

This is the topic about one of the best grind spots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6UF5xkVPBo

Broim wrote: »

Hi, I was the one that made this video. Only reason we got 750k xp/hour in this clip is because we hade some PvP action just before I started to record... so we lost some xp/hour.
When I grinded VR 12-14 we made 840k xp/hour but I didn't record that. You can easily get 800k xp/hour if you are in a grp with another player, time all spawns right and dont get to much PvP action.

Now i have the numbers and the calculations
i made it with ESO+ 10% exp buff and Enlighhtment(x4 exp buff), solo

any regular mob - 1456 exp
summoned mobs - 0
chest - 4024 exp
boss - 2912 exp
player kill - 8860 exp

bonuses:
heavy sacks
gems(from boses)
Aspect runes
Martial Knowledge items, 30-60k per piece

mobs per route - 71(103376 exp)
chests per route ~ 4(16096 exp)
bosses per route - 3(8736)
PK per hour ~ 5(44300)-20 - related to online of campaign

average time of the route - 6 min(solo)

EXP PER HOUR(my case) = 1.326.380 per hour
without enlightment bonus ~330k - but i am NB

and now imagine how much you will get in group of 2 persons. without enlightment, but with group bonus exp(afaik 10%?) and SPEED BONUS because of group

~500k exp per hour in worst case, and sorc from the video above make 700k

Do you mind sharing that build, it looks very sick. Perhaps a short guide on how to build it from scratch, what items and skills to invest in when building it? Would appreciate any help, thanks.

QuadroTony

not my video and build
but you can found author in this topic