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[GRIND] 700-750k exp/h - Cracked Wood Cave with math
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QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭Hi, I was the one that made this video. Only reason we got 750k xp/hour in this clip is because we hade some PvP action just before I started to record... so we lost some xp/hour.
When I grinded VR 12-14 we made 840k xp/hour but I didn't record that. You can easily get 800k xp/hour if you are in a grp with another player, time all spawns right and dont get to much PvP action.
thanks for explanation
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Dudis✭✭✭Also, they won't nerf this place for a couple of reasons
1) It's not an exploit like the old craglorn grinds for example.
2) There are several other spots that have been known since before release that havn't been nerfed yet (zombies for example).0 -
AlexDrago✭✭✭If you have nothing to say say nothing ©0 -
ArconSeptim✭✭✭✭I just know one thing with this game, if you guys find something like this don't even write it on your computer because it spreads like ebola, even faster.0 -
oRioNoTime✭✭✭It doesn't need a big nerf, 500k / h is very reasonable to be in a PvP zone and in a public dungeon.
If more than 2 group are there the grind is ruined, if a group of enemies will come to gank the grind is ruined.
Probably 700k / h is too much, they can remove 3-4 packs and it will be fine.
I found it like 1 week ago with a mate and we were astonished by the amount of mobs popping everywhere.
From that day I did my enlighted CP there everyday
Thanks to this post (most probably) yesterday was full of people.
Orio N - Nightblade Caster - DC EU - First Ruler of Auriel's Bow0 -
wOOOOt_of_SD✭✭✭Dont need nerf, this thread did it! Those caves are only good for PVP now, since its full of bait
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QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭oRioNoTime wrote: »It doesn't need a big nerf, 500k / h is very reasonable to be in a PvP zone and in a public dungeon.
If more than 2 group are there the grind is ruined, if a group of enemies will come to gank the grind is ruined.
not ruined
because PK give you alot exp too and AP
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oRioNoTime✭✭✭Yeah cool, you are AD, easy respawn.
IMO it need a very small nerf to 400-500k / h.Orio N - Nightblade Caster - DC EU - First Ruler of Auriel's Bow0 -
BroimSoul ShrivenI don't get why everyone expect them to nerf this place?
Do you expect them to nerf all other grinds that have been in game since launch?
There are camps in every faction that you can use and grind lvl 1-50 and then VR1-14. Some of these camps still gives better xp then this dungeon.
Only reason this camp is good is because you don't need to go to another camp when you get to high VR lvl, instead you need to be worried that other players may try to kill you in PvP...Edited by Broim on April 7, 2015 1:11PM0 -
oRioNoTime✭✭✭I don't get why everyone expect them to nerf this place?
Do you expect them to nerf all other grinds that have been in game since launch?
There are camps in every faction that you can use and grind lvl 1-50 and then VR1-14. Some of these camps still gives better xp then this dungeon.
Only reason this camp is good is because you don't need to go to another camp when you get to high VR lvl, instead you need to be worried that other players may try to kill you in PvP...
For v14 there is no better camp, not even a close one.
Till last monday there was a place in The Rift with 400k / h but it get nerfed.
If you know a place to get 700k / h tell us your secret pleaseOrio N - Nightblade Caster - DC EU - First Ruler of Auriel's Bow0 -
Olysja✭✭✭well , yes there are some tards mobs that gives 700+ exp in vr maps, but the problem is the resp rate and the mob lvl, you can farm 1-14 inside those cyro caves, you can't outside: ) 2cps/h is an awesome farm but way boring aswell XD
anyway we discussed those caves before the exp change got implemented, this video only confirms that noone is testing any kind of changes, just /random. i will deal with my 3 *** CPs after 12+ hours of solo pvp/day. endgame is grinding put it on the next trailer.Are you a perfect russian woman? add me-> @Olysja (✿☯‿☯✿)
(EU)(EP) Olysja / Hortensius Capitolinus
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QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭help me pls im on Thornblade EU hiding in the cave, and 3 reds grinding around
easy AP!0 -
Sacadon✭✭✭✭✭If you find a good place to grind it's because ZOS doesn't realize it's a good place to grind. ZOS destroyed Craglorn to stop grinding, they will do the same to Cyrodiil.
If you post it prepare to find a new place to grind. Someone posted about sky reach at the end of the day and it was nerfed the next morning.
Your intentions are good, but ZOS's intentions seem to be to remove all grinding spots.
It seems to be their intention to remove highly visible grinding spots. In other words, only when they become a hot topic, point of contention or highly visible. They've always known where and why we grind.
Somewhat akin to a parent looking the other way if the kid doesn't know they've been seen. I believe that the attention to such spots forces their hand because they really don't want to interfere with what we're doing and prefer to focus their energy on other things.
Regardless, threads like this I think ultimately hurt more players than they help. Just my opinion obviously.2 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZoS should focus more attention on WHY so many people grind and less attention on WHERE people grind.
I will be shocked if this delve doesn't get nerfed in one way or the other simply because of this thread. All of you guys coming up with these colorful excuses why ZoS would not nerf this place are either kidding yourselves or you have no idea how much of a quest ZoS has made of killing every single popular grind spot anyone has ever been silly enough to advertise.
They don't seem to understand WHY grinding is so popular in this game. Until they do, nothing will change. People will find new spots to grind and ZoS will nerf them into the ground. It's like musical chairs. It's possible this time will be different, but I highly doubt it.Edited by Alphashado on April 7, 2015 2:44PM3 -
Valymer✭✭✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »ZoS should focus more attention on WHY so many people grind and less attention on WHERE people grind.
I will be shocked if this delve doesn't get nerfed in one way or the other simply because of this thread. All of you guys coming up with these colorful excuses why ZoS would not nerf this place are either kidding yourselves or you have no idea how much of a quest ZoS has made of killing every single popular grind spot anyone has ever been silly enough to advertise.
They don't seem to understand WHY grinding is so popular in this game. Until they do, nothing will change. People will find new spots to grind and ZoS will nerf them into the ground. It's like musical chairs. It's possible this time will be different, but I highly doubt it.
But until now, none of those grind spots has been in Cyrodiil. So to be fair we haven't yet seen how they will react to this.0 -
Sacadon✭✭✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »ZoS should focus more attention on WHY so many people grind and less attention on WHERE people grind.
I will be shocked if this delve doesn't get nerfed in one way or the other simply because of this thread. All of you guys coming up with these colorful excuses why ZoS would not nerf this place are either kidding yourselves or you have no idea how much of a quest ZoS has made of killing every single popular grind spot anyone has ever been silly enough to advertise.
They don't seem to understand WHY grinding is so popular in this game. Until they do, nothing will change. People will find new spots to grind and ZoS will nerf them into the ground. It's like musical chairs. It's possible this time will be different, but I highly doubt it.
Agreed in that I wish their actions were different and the nerfs really get to me. I'll never post or talk about where I grind except to those who I trust won't put a big spotlight on it.1 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alphashado wrote: »ZoS should focus more attention on WHY so many people grind and less attention on WHERE people grind.
I will be shocked if this delve doesn't get nerfed in one way or the other simply because of this thread. All of you guys coming up with these colorful excuses why ZoS would not nerf this place are either kidding yourselves or you have no idea how much of a quest ZoS has made of killing every single popular grind spot anyone has ever been silly enough to advertise.
They don't seem to understand WHY grinding is so popular in this game. Until they do, nothing will change. People will find new spots to grind and ZoS will nerf them into the ground. It's like musical chairs. It's possible this time will be different, but I highly doubt it.
But until now, none of those grind spots has been in Cyrodiil. So to be fair we haven't yet seen how they will react to this.
One of the very first Grind Nerfs they did was in Cyrodiil. At launch Cyrodiil was packed because the PvE quests were great XP. They awareded like 20k each and they were repeatable. So people were going there constantly to farm/grind XP. The place was always full. What did ZoS do? First they reduced the amount of XP awarded for the quests, then they made them daily quests instead of repeatable quests. Then when that wasn't enough of a nerf, they reduced the Bounty quest XP and made THEM dailys instead of repeatable, THEN they changed the bounty quests so that you had to kill 20 of each class instead of simply killing 20 players.
They have reverted a few minor things, but overall Cyrodiil was hit HARD AND FAST with the nerf bat way back at launch. We will see what happens now because it seems that maybe, just MAYBE zos is starting to figure it out. Time will tell. But believe me, they most certainly are not afraid to nerf PvE XP in Cyrodiil.
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✭QuadroTony wrote: »testing Capstone Cave now
Fortunately, Capstone cave monsters are sloooooowwww to respawn (5 minutes per group). So that's a no-go for grinding exp.1 -
Valymer✭✭✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »ZoS should focus more attention on WHY so many people grind and less attention on WHERE people grind.
I will be shocked if this delve doesn't get nerfed in one way or the other simply because of this thread. All of you guys coming up with these colorful excuses why ZoS would not nerf this place are either kidding yourselves or you have no idea how much of a quest ZoS has made of killing every single popular grind spot anyone has ever been silly enough to advertise.
They don't seem to understand WHY grinding is so popular in this game. Until they do, nothing will change. People will find new spots to grind and ZoS will nerf them into the ground. It's like musical chairs. It's possible this time will be different, but I highly doubt it.
But until now, none of those grind spots has been in Cyrodiil. So to be fair we haven't yet seen how they will react to this.
One of the very first Grind Nerfs they did was in Cyrodiil. At launch Cyrodiil was packed because the PvE quests were great XP. They awareded like 20k each and they were repeatable. So people were going there constantly to farm/grind XP. The place was always full. What did ZoS do? First they reduced the amount of XP awarded for the quests, then they made them daily quests instead of repeatable quests. Then when that wasn't enough of a nerf, they reduced the Bounty quest XP and made THEM dailys instead of repeatable, THEN they changed the bounty quests so that you had to kill 20 of each class instead of simply killing 20 players.
They have reverted a few minor things, but overall Cyrodiil was hit HARD AND FAST with the nerf bat way back at launch. We will see what happens now because it seems that maybe, just MAYBE zos is starting to figure it out. Time will tell. But believe me, they most certainly are not afraid to nerf PvE XP in Cyrodiil.
Interesting, I only got into Cyrodiil questing recently so I wasn't aware of how they were at launch. That was questing though, this is grinding mobs...it will be interesting to see if and how they react.
But anyways, I agree with you--let's hope ZOS recognizes the opportunity they have perhaps inadvertently created for fun, (mostly) lag-free world(ish) PvP and leaves stuff alone this time.0 -
QuadroTony✭✭✭✭✭theweakminded wrote: »Almost 20k AP in about 20min yesterday. So glad peopled shared this.
ye - thats the point!0 -
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thanks! its ethernal war you know
between PVE and PVP
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