ZOS I will pay you $30+ to change my RACE

grimsfield

Or.... ZOS could just revamp race passives and make stupid passives like swim speed disappear.

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

also all of complaining saying classes will be next are just proving my point how y'all literally know nothing about MMO's

Lots of MMO offer race/sex changes.

literally none of them offer class changes.

Obscure

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

It's a replay driver that I don't think ZOS will want to remove from the game.

It's a matter of "if we charge $30 to change the race on any character to include a Max level character, how much revenue does that gain us in the short term and how does it effect revenue on the long term?"

Short term they'd see a revenue spike, but long term they'd see less replay, higher player attrition, and perhaps even enough to offset the short term revenue spike resulting in a 0 net gain. Who is likely to keep flowing capital into the business? Someone who is Maxed out and just changes his race for a flat fee, or someone who rerolls a new race and replays to get a Max character again? Tough question to field, but I have no doubts it's the kind of conversation these ZOS employees sit down in long meetings to discuss.

Leave it in the hands of the pros. I wouldn't tell a surgeon how to do his job, and I wouldn't expect him to tell me how to do my job, and I apply the same reasoning to any career professional that has done what they do for years and become proficient enough in the practice to get paid to do it.

most of WoW shop sales are from services not mounts/pets
which is funny because they even sale near level cap toons.

...and you have the earnings reports to support that claim? Perhaps a statement from Blizzard stating this is the case?

akray21 wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

It's a replay driver that I don't think ZOS will want to remove from the game.

It's a matter of "if we charge $30 to change the race on any character to include a Max level character, how much revenue does that gain us in the short term and how does it effect revenue on the long term?"

Short term they'd see a revenue spike, but long term they'd see less replay, higher player attrition, and perhaps even enough to offset the short term revenue spike resulting in a 0 net gain. Who is likely to keep flowing capital into the business? Someone who is Maxed out and just changes his race for a flat fee, or someone who rerolls a new race and replays to get a Max character again? Tough question to field, but I have no doubts it's the kind of conversation these ZOS employees sit down in long meetings to discuss.

Leave it in the hands of the pros. I wouldn't tell a surgeon how to do his job, and I wouldn't expect him to tell me how to do my job, and I apply the same reasoning to any career professional that has done what they do for years and become proficient enough in the practice to get paid to do it.

I am playing the game less because I can't be the race I want to be. I'm not about to grind 250+ hours to get VR14 for the 10% more magicka. I would rather "grind" and hour an hour and a half at work and pay for it. Work is a grind 5 days per week, I don't want to add hundreds of hours to my normal weekly grind.

Subjective. I work in excess of 60 hours a week, and I refuse to grind in any game, ESO included. If it's not fun, I literally don't have time for that bull***. Market is flooded with awesome games and I'll be damned if I'm going to burn my free time doing anything less than having fun gaming. This is subjective. Many would fundamentally disagree with me, but they're likely to busy grinding right now to comment.

pugyourself

Levels 1-50 -> $20k in-game gold per level achieved ($1 million for change at Level 50)
Price goes up by a million for each VR rank.

In-game gold is fair for this. Not cash.

Same deal with class change.

I have no beef if this is offered for massive in-game gold. Once it's offered for money or crowns, the game is over.

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

Obscure wrote: »

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

It's a replay driver that I don't think ZOS will want to remove from the game.

It's a matter of "if we charge $30 to change the race on any character to include a Max level character, how much revenue does that gain us in the short term and how does it effect revenue on the long term?"

Short term they'd see a revenue spike, but long term they'd see less replay, higher player attrition, and perhaps even enough to offset the short term revenue spike resulting in a 0 net gain. Who is likely to keep flowing capital into the business? Someone who is Maxed out and just changes his race for a flat fee, or someone who rerolls a new race and replays to get a Max character again? Tough question to field, but I have no doubts it's the kind of conversation these ZOS employees sit down in long meetings to discuss.

Leave it in the hands of the pros. I wouldn't tell a surgeon how to do his job, and I wouldn't expect him to tell me how to do my job, and I apply the same reasoning to any career professional that has done what they do for years and become proficient enough in the practice to get paid to do it.

most of WoW shop sales are from services not mounts/pets
which is funny because they even sale near level cap toons.

...and you have the earnings reports to support that claim? Perhaps a statement from Blizzard stating this is the case?

akray21 wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

It's a replay driver that I don't think ZOS will want to remove from the game.

It's a matter of "if we charge $30 to change the race on any character to include a Max level character, how much revenue does that gain us in the short term and how does it effect revenue on the long term?"

Short term they'd see a revenue spike, but long term they'd see less replay, higher player attrition, and perhaps even enough to offset the short term revenue spike resulting in a 0 net gain. Who is likely to keep flowing capital into the business? Someone who is Maxed out and just changes his race for a flat fee, or someone who rerolls a new race and replays to get a Max character again? Tough question to field, but I have no doubts it's the kind of conversation these ZOS employees sit down in long meetings to discuss.

Leave it in the hands of the pros. I wouldn't tell a surgeon how to do his job, and I wouldn't expect him to tell me how to do my job, and I apply the same reasoning to any career professional that has done what they do for years and become proficient enough in the practice to get paid to do it.

I am playing the game less because I can't be the race I want to be. I'm not about to grind 250+ hours to get VR14 for the 10% more magicka. I would rather "grind" and hour an hour and a half at work and pay for it. Work is a grind 5 days per week, I don't want to add hundreds of hours to my normal weekly grind.

Subjective. I work in excess of 60 hours a week, and I refuse to grind in any game, ESO included. If it's not fun, I literally don't have time for that bull***. Market is flooded with awesome games and I'll be damned if I'm going to burn my free time doing anything less than having fun gaming. This is subjective. Many would fundamentally disagree with me, but they're likely to busy grinding right now to comment.

you can look up the numbers but it's pretty obvious.

back in thunderlord a lot of top guilds race changed to troll.

for WoD a lot of PvP players faction changed to alliance ( no horde player on top 5 pages)

They make tons of money off it and it's expensive

AlnilamE

grimsfield wrote: »

Or.... ZOS could just revamp race passives and make stupid passives like swim speed disappear.

Do. Not. Touch. My. Swim. Speed.

Seriously, doesn't anybody play this game for fun?

grimsfield

AlnilamE wrote: »

grimsfield wrote: »

Or.... ZOS could just revamp race passives and make stupid passives like swim speed disappear.

Do. Not. Touch. My. Swim. Speed.

Seriously, doesn't anybody play this game for fun?

You're the only person in this game I've ever seen that actually wants swim speed.

Obscure

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

It's a replay driver that I don't think ZOS will want to remove from the game.

It's a matter of "if we charge $30 to change the race on any character to include a Max level character, how much revenue does that gain us in the short term and how does it effect revenue on the long term?"

Short term they'd see a revenue spike, but long term they'd see less replay, higher player attrition, and perhaps even enough to offset the short term revenue spike resulting in a 0 net gain. Who is likely to keep flowing capital into the business? Someone who is Maxed out and just changes his race for a flat fee, or someone who rerolls a new race and replays to get a Max character again? Tough question to field, but I have no doubts it's the kind of conversation these ZOS employees sit down in long meetings to discuss.

Leave it in the hands of the pros. I wouldn't tell a surgeon how to do his job, and I wouldn't expect him to tell me how to do my job, and I apply the same reasoning to any career professional that has done what they do for years and become proficient enough in the practice to get paid to do it.

most of WoW shop sales are from services not mounts/pets
which is funny because they even sale near level cap toons.

...and you have the earnings reports to support that claim? Perhaps a statement from Blizzard stating this is the case?

akray21 wrote: »

Obscure wrote: »

It's a replay driver that I don't think ZOS will want to remove from the game.

It's a matter of "if we charge $30 to change the race on any character to include a Max level character, how much revenue does that gain us in the short term and how does it effect revenue on the long term?"

Short term they'd see a revenue spike, but long term they'd see less replay, higher player attrition, and perhaps even enough to offset the short term revenue spike resulting in a 0 net gain. Who is likely to keep flowing capital into the business? Someone who is Maxed out and just changes his race for a flat fee, or someone who rerolls a new race and replays to get a Max character again? Tough question to field, but I have no doubts it's the kind of conversation these ZOS employees sit down in long meetings to discuss.

Leave it in the hands of the pros. I wouldn't tell a surgeon how to do his job, and I wouldn't expect him to tell me how to do my job, and I apply the same reasoning to any career professional that has done what they do for years and become proficient enough in the practice to get paid to do it.

I am playing the game less because I can't be the race I want to be. I'm not about to grind 250+ hours to get VR14 for the 10% more magicka. I would rather "grind" and hour an hour and a half at work and pay for it. Work is a grind 5 days per week, I don't want to add hundreds of hours to my normal weekly grind.

Subjective. I work in excess of 60 hours a week, and I refuse to grind in any game, ESO included. If it's not fun, I literally don't have time for that bull***. Market is flooded with awesome games and I'll be damned if I'm going to burn my free time doing anything less than having fun gaming. This is subjective. Many would fundamentally disagree with me, but they're likely to busy grinding right now to comment.

you can look up the numbers but it's pretty obvious.

back in thunderlord a lot of top guilds race changed to troll.

for WoD a lot of PvP players faction changed to alliance ( no horde player on top 5 pages)

They make tons of money off it and it's expensive

I have looked up the numbers, and it's not itemised in their earnings reports. It's certainly anything but obvious.

What is obvious is the ocean of failed games that attempted to clone WoW's model. Many try, and they ALL fail. WoW is a freak of nature, a one of a kind, lightening in a bottle, flash in the pan game. To copy WoW should be a red flag for any studio that isn't Activision/Blizzard.

AlnilamE

You don't hang out with many argonians, I take? :-P

It's mostly fluff, but it's fun.

When I get the Craglorn Alchemy Survey II, I always go to the Valley of Scars wayshrine and jump off the waterfall and swim across the lake to get it.

And Ivy can almost swim all the way to the Imperial City in Cyrodiil before the slaughterfish get her.

Thymos

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

also all of complaining saying classes will be next are just proving my point how y'all literally know nothing about MMO's

Lots of MMO offer race/sex changes.

literally none of them offer class changes.

Since you are offering it as a point, could you name "lots" of these MMOs. Hopefully they are quality MMOs, and that their races aren't just purely cosmetic.

Lorkhan

race change = p2w

badmojo

I love how some people think changing a race will suddenly make them better.

It wont. Re-roll, because if you're blaming race, you really need to learn the mechanics of this game better.

Kilandros

Bc1151 wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I will pay a good amount to change my race in ESO.

Arguments against race change:

1. "It would be lore breaking" - Who cares, don't do it yourself. You will never know that I changed my race because you don't play with me. It will only affect you if someone you play with changes race, and most of the time people that care that much about lore play with like minded people so no harm...
2. "...but you can just re-roll a new character". - Not wasting my 400 hours that I have put into this game to get another character of the same class to max level. My time is worth way more than my money.
3. "People would just change race every time ZOS makes an update for the FotM build" - Not if they charge $30+...
4. "Racial passives are not that important" - End game content would disagree. My wood elf NB healer gets no bonus from his racials. Why does he have to suffer because I thought I would be a DPS, but my group decided that they didn't want to have a healer so I had to step in?

ZOS... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You should just re-roll. There is no way ZOS will even consider this.
Analyzing your points:
1. Yes, it would be lore breaking. And one of the main reasons I love ESO is because of their amazing deep lore, that has not been broken in the way you describe for decades.
2. Every one else has to! Plus ES is about the journey, not the end game.
3. 30$ plus is not that much. Most people have jobs, and can easily cash out 30 bucks. You are just limiting the age range.
4. Yeah, they are important. But they are the only reason to change your race in my opinion. the passives are helpful, but in all sincerity for a while as a joke i was a stam build dps tank high elf sorc. Yeah it was a joke but I did fine without them.

Basically, I can understand your anguish. But there is no way it will happen for money, if you're lucky it might be a in game one time quest. Either way, don't get your hopes up.

Just like ZOS was never going to drop the sub model and initiate a cash shop, right?

Erock25

badmojo wrote: »

I love how some people think changing a race will suddenly make them better.

It wont. Re-roll, because if you're blaming race, you really need to learn the mechanics of this game better.

Yes I am blaming my race. I am blaming my Khajit race on my Magicka Build Sorcerer to have 10% less magicka, 9% less magicka regen, and 4% less elemental dmg than if I had the proper race. Has nothing to do with game mechanics and everything to do with A.) ZOS changing the game up significantly in 1.6 and B.) racial passivse are WAY too powerful.

At this point I'd pay 100$ to change my race.

Gidorick

Kilandros wrote: »

Bc1151 wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

I will pay a good amount to change my race in ESO.

Arguments against race change:

1. "It would be lore breaking" - Who cares, don't do it yourself. You will never know that I changed my race because you don't play with me. It will only affect you if someone you play with changes race, and most of the time people that care that much about lore play with like minded people so no harm...
2. "...but you can just re-roll a new character". - Not wasting my 400 hours that I have put into this game to get another character of the same class to max level. My time is worth way more than my money.
3. "People would just change race every time ZOS makes an update for the FotM build" - Not if they charge $30+...
4. "Racial passives are not that important" - End game content would disagree. My wood elf NB healer gets no bonus from his racials. Why does he have to suffer because I thought I would be a DPS, but my group decided that they didn't want to have a healer so I had to step in?

ZOS... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You should just re-roll. There is no way ZOS will even consider this.
Analyzing your points:
1. Yes, it would be lore breaking. And one of the main reasons I love ESO is because of their amazing deep lore, that has not been broken in the way you describe for decades.
2. Every one else has to! Plus ES is about the journey, not the end game.
3. 30$ plus is not that much. Most people have jobs, and can easily cash out 30 bucks. You are just limiting the age range.
4. Yeah, they are important. But they are the only reason to change your race in my opinion. the passives are helpful, but in all sincerity for a while as a joke i was a stam build dps tank high elf sorc. Yeah it was a joke but I did fine without them.

Basically, I can understand your anguish. But there is no way it will happen for money, if you're lucky it might be a in game one time quest. Either way, don't get your hopes up.

Just like ZOS was never going to drop the sub model and initiate a cash shop, right?

https://youtu.be/obKLdou0LH0

pugyourself

Erock25 wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I love how some people think changing a race will suddenly make them better.

It wont. Re-roll, because if you're blaming race, you really need to learn the mechanics of this game better.

Yes I am blaming my race. I am blaming my Khajit race on my Magicka Build Sorcerer to have 10% less magicka, 9% less magicka regen, and 4% less elemental dmg than if I had the proper race. Has nothing to do with game mechanics and everything to do with A.) ZOS changing the game up significantly in 1.6 and B.) racial passivse are WAY too powerful.

At this point I'd pay 100$ to change my race.

Why in the world would you choose a khajit magicka build Sorc? Is this your first Elder Scrolls game? If so, did you read the race tooltips? Or did you just want to be a cat? How many levels did it take to realize ya done goofed?

Edited for spelling

ginoboehm

pugyourself wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I love how some people think changing a race will suddenly make them better.

It wont. Re-roll, because if you're blaming race, you really need to learn the mechanics of this game better.

Yes I am blaming my race. I am blaming my Khajit race on my Magicka Build Sorcerer to have 10% less magicka, 9% less magicka regen, and 4% less elemental dmg than if I had the proper race. Has nothing to do with game mechanics and everything to do with A.) ZOS changing the game up significantly in 1.6 and B.) racial passivse are WAY too powerful.

At this point I'd pay 100$ to change my race.

Why in the world would you choose a khajit magician build Sorc? Is this your first Elder Scrolls game? If so, did you read the race tooltips? Or did you just want to be a cat? How many levels did it take to realize ya done goofed?

Perhaps he was playing a stamina based sorc before 1.6 and has choosen khajiit for the massive self heal from melee crit combined with the weapon damage stacking sorcs provided both things nerfed with 1.6

deepseamk20b14_ESO

In no way shape or form would it be lore breaking. Its absolutely rediculous to even say that it would. So many elder scrolls games have had quests or NPC's that dealt with someone or something that physically forever altered someone. Heck, I can zap you with wabbajack and BOOM you are something else. What about the quest in skyrim where one of the deadric gods changes you into someone else for the quest?

Fact is, the game involves magic in a fantasy world. To say its not lore friendly or couldn't happened is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard on the forums.

If you people want "lore friendly" all ZoS would have to do is let you buy a race change scroll in the crown store. Once you claim the item in game you start a quest on behalf of one of the deadric gods. At the completion of the quest you are rewarded with the ability to change your race. They are gods and have it easily in their power to do so. If you think differently you should go to a doctor and get an MRI to look for the tumor growing in your brain.

I don't consider any of the other arguments valid either but I can care less about them. Some people are good at spinning words to make their points sound valid but in reality their opinion s are moot. The "lore breaking" argument however is a pet peeve of mine because of the sheer stupidity of it. Again....magic....fantasy....its not real....there are gods that are always meddling in mortal affairs....it is 100% possible within the elder scrolls universe for this to happen.

Above all, ZoS would make money from people changing race and make zero money from those who don't want to change race. So, from a business point of view what makes more sense to you? Also, don't give me that crap "well I'll quit!" Go ahead please leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out. ZoS already has your money, not to mention if some random player you've never met changes his/her race you would be none the wiser and it wouldn't affect you what so ever.

phreatophile

I would pay $30 in a heartbeat....per character to repair some missguided race choices.

Gods, there are a few changes that have been made that, in all fairness, ought to obligate ZOS to provide a free race change.

Argonians have had their best passive wrecked completely and Dunmer have had their flame resistance nerfed pretty hard in 1.6.

Nestor

Erock25 wrote: »

At this point I'd pay 100$ to change my race.

You have been asking for this since May, and started another thread in July.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/97941/will-we-ever-be-able-to-change-our-race

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/120423/i-implore-you-let-me-change-my-race

You could have paid some kid the $100 to grind out 7 other characters of the race you want by now. You certainly could have done it by now yourself. The fact that you are still going on about this character tells me your still playing it, a year later. So, it can't be that bad. You can't complain about the amount of time it would take to bring this character up to level, because it is 1/50th the time you have spent making threads asking for someone to do something for you that you can solve yourself.

The quick and easy solution is staring you in the face, take it.

Spangla

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

akray21

Erock25 wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I love how some people think changing a race will suddenly make them better.

It wont. Re-roll, because if you're blaming race, you really need to learn the mechanics of this game better.

Yes I am blaming my race. I am blaming my Khajit race on my Magicka Build Sorcerer to have 10% less magicka, 9% less magicka regen, and 4% less elemental dmg than if I had the proper race. Has nothing to do with game mechanics and everything to do with A.) ZOS changing the game up significantly in 1.6 and B.) racial passivse are WAY too powerful.

At this point I'd pay 100$ to change my race.

Bingo! I'm losing out on those exact OP buffs that come with the Altmer race.

Once they run out of ideas to make money (because selling crappy costumes and mounts isn't going to make them a whole lot of money) they will sell race changes, max level toons, etc. It is just a matter of time.

Erock25

pugyourself wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I love how some people think changing a race will suddenly make them better.

It wont. Re-roll, because if you're blaming race, you really need to learn the mechanics of this game better.

Yes I am blaming my race. I am blaming my Khajit race on my Magicka Build Sorcerer to have 10% less magicka, 9% less magicka regen, and 4% less elemental dmg than if I had the proper race. Has nothing to do with game mechanics and everything to do with A.) ZOS changing the game up significantly in 1.6 and B.) racial passivse are WAY too powerful.

At this point I'd pay 100$ to change my race.

Why in the world would you choose a khajit magician build Sorc? Is this your first Elder Scrolls game? If so, did you read the race tooltips? Or did you just want to be a cat? How many levels did it take to realize ya done goofed?

The poster below you got it right. I wanted to combine crit surge with the extra crit chance and the fact that Sorc could stack the highest weapon dmg before 1.6. It doesn't work out so well now.

Nestor wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

At this point I'd pay 100$ to change my race.

You have been asking for this since May, and started another thread in July.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/97941/will-we-ever-be-able-to-change-our-race

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/120423/i-implore-you-let-me-change-my-race

You could have paid some kid the $100 to grind out 7 other characters of the race you want by now. You certainly could have done it by now yourself. The fact that you are still going on about this character tells me your still playing it, a year later. So, it can't be that bad. You can't complain about the amount of time it would take to bring this character up to level, because it is 1/50th the time you have spent making threads asking for someone to do something for you that you can solve yourself.

The quick and easy solution is staring you in the face, take it.

I've probably put in 40 hours total to this game since July and would rather level up other classes than do another Sorc. I also stopped playing for a bit there. My Sorc is my main and has 50 in each crafting, nearly every achievement, 9 traits on all crafts, by far my highest rank in alliance war, and every single quest through 1-50, silver, and gold completed, maxed horse.... oh yeah and undaunted level. Combine all that with the fact that I need bank mules and all my character slots are full (4 characters of each class and 4 mules) and I think you can understand why I won't just reroll my Sorc.

And you are right that no, it's not THAT BAD, but it doesn't change the fact that I have two of the three racial passives going completely to waste in my magicka build and the one that is useful (health regen) is marginal. 10% magicka, 9% magicka regen, and 4% elemental damage is pretty dang significant when compared to 30% health regen.

I find it interesting that you would go to the effort of finding previous posts that I have made like it is some insult to you to create three posts about race change over the year+ I've been playing this game. It makes way more sense to me to put a small amount of time into making a post for something that you care about compared to you putting time researching my previous posts to post something that you are against.

pugyourself

Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

akray21

pugyourself wrote: »

Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

Saying it would be P2W is false. At best that comment is going against the argument saying racials are not important.

Erock25

pugyourself wrote: »

Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

So it is P2W to change your race to an Altmer but not P2W if you rolled an Altmer initially?

Nestor

Erock25 wrote: »

It makes way more sense to me to put a small amount of time into making a post for something that you care about compared to you putting time researching my previous posts to post something that you are against.

I spent 10 seconds looking up your other threads. I did this while waiting for a bandwidth graph to populate for a report I am doing at work.

This is not an insult to me. Your the one who has only played this game for 40 hours because you did not like your character choice. When you have 7 other slots open. You say you have waited for a year for this change? To preserve a character that you have only spent 40 hours on?

akray21

Erock25 wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

So it is P2W to change your race to an Altmer but not P2W if you rolled an Altmer initially?

I bought this game, so I paid to win!

pugyourself

akray21 wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

Saying it would be P2W is false. At best that comment is going against the argument saying racials are not important.

Race is important in this game. Certain races are better for certain builds.

Erock25 wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

So it is P2W to change your race to an Altmer but not P2W if you rolled an Altmer initially?

That is what I am saying. Paying real money to make your current toon more competitive = P2W.

akray21

pugyourself wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

pugyourself wrote: »

Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

Saying it would be P2W is false. At best that comment is going against the argument saying racials are not important.

Race is important in this game. Certain races are better for certain builds.

Erock25 wrote: »

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Spangla wrote: »

if no race change then race balance is a must - khajit racials vs imperial for instance is a joke - comon zeni it is time you addressed this

Then why not make it for in-game gold? Otherwise it is simply P2W.

So it is P2W to change your race to an Altmer but not P2W if you rolled an Altmer initially?

That is what I am saying. Paying real money to make your current toon more competitive = P2W.

So people that luckily chose the best races in the beginning 400 hours of gameplay earlier, should get an advantage? So because I was born white, should I have an advantage?