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Are damage shields still too much?
derpsticks
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I was just in a small fight. I lost but when I looked at the CLS log, I was amazed to find that 39,141 damage had been absorbed by a single player.
This is ridiculous. Pasted together 3 images of the log to make this:
This is ridiculous. Pasted together 3 images of the log to make this:
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sicc✭✭✭Would you like them to just lie down and die for you? You know anyone can use the light armor damage shield. Damage shields aren't much different then the endless dodge rolling.
Every class has ways to stay alive if they're a decent player. Maybe go watch some YouTube videos on how to play your chosen class.9 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I see in that log that you were hit for anywhere from 300 damage to 4000 damage. You on the other hand crit rushed for 8600 and 10600. Seems about right to me.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points7 -
derpsticks✭✭✭✭@sicc
You mean the damage shield that only absorbs 3302 damage for me while costing 1/3 of my magicka? Not very useful.
That is no where near the 39k damage that was absorbed. This thread is not about how I died. What I didn't mention was that it wasn't even this player who killed me, but another from a different alliance who joined in after that I didn't notice in time.
@Erock25
The 10696 damage was from a sneak attack with a heavy bow attack (more damage from a greater distance). The 8663 is mostly from the distance I charged to hit the player. After that initial burst, the skill deals considerably less damage.
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Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ah, my most hated enemy!!! damage shields!:D
I myself have a problem when it turns a LA player into both a tank and a high DPSer (yes damage shield useage can get to that extent) otherwise its not TO bad.
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sicc✭✭✭2 of the three damage shields some folks use, you can also use. Your choosing not to use healing ward or harness. It's not anyone else's fault. Take away conjured ward from sorcs and It's basically game over for them. I'm sorry your no longer able to roll your face on the keyboard and beat sorcs. But it still takes a well played sorcto beat any of the other classes 1v1. Seems balanced.6
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EIGHTS✭✭✭✭Damage Shield is too much?
Why?
A bow attack can damage about 20K.
If we don't have damage shield, we all die already.
Edited by EIGHTS on March 25, 2015 3:30AMI'm not native speaker in English. I hope that I don't make you misunderstand.5 -
Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So you tried to gank someone, failed to kill them because they used an anti ganking set, then they cast healing ward which received a 300% bonus because he was below 30% health (16K shield) which you burned through, then he cast hardened ward and another healing ward.
I fail to see the problem here.
He could have absorbed 100K in shields and it wouldn't mean anything. I did between half a million to a million damage to a DK in my last PvP video before he died...does that mean DKs are too powerful? No, it means I succeeded in killing him before he killed me and nothing else.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Talcyndl✭✭✭✭✭Damage Shield is too much?
Why?...it turns a LA player into both a tank and a high DPSer (yes damage shield useage can get to that extent)...
I think that lays it out pretty clearly. IMO it should be balanced better.
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Galalin✭✭✭✭✭Nerf damage shields!!! More OP than siege
i still love all you sorcs out there though... 
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Snit✭✭✭✭✭
✭derpsticks wrote: »I was just in a small fight. I lost but when I looked at the CLS log, I was amazed to find that 39,141damage...
I've been in countless fights where damage in excess of that was avoided via dodge rolls, blocks or healed up. 39k is nothing.
Are you really used to fighting players who do nothing to mitigate damage? Nobody dodges your big hitters? People don't toss out big heals to bring themselves back from execute range? I don't get it. Do you basically want all your foes to be AFK or awful?Snit AD Sorc
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EIGHTS✭✭✭✭I think that lays it out pretty clearly. IMO it should be balanced better.Nerf damage shields!!! More OP than siege i still love all you sorcs out there though...
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HA!
This is the reason why you don't like damage shield at all!
Every class have their special talent.
I think if sorcerers just stand there and let you kill, you will very happy! XD
Edited by EIGHTS on March 25, 2015 3:46AMI'm not native speaker in English. I hope that I don't make you misunderstand.1 -
Honfold✭✭✭Would you like them to just lie down and die for you? You know anyone can use the light armor damage shield. Damage shields aren't much different then the endless dodge rolling.
Every class has ways to stay alive if they're a decent player. Maybe go watch some YouTube videos on how to play your chosen class.
To be fair, you can't cast spells while dodge rolling.0 -
Galalin✭✭✭✭✭I think that lays it out pretty clearly. IMO it should be balanced better.Nerf damage shields!!! More OP than siege i still love all you sorcs out there though...
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HA!
This is the reason why you don't like damage shield at all!
Every class have their special talent.
I think if sorcerers just stand there and let you kill, you will very happy! XD
All the sorcs know i love them... im just stirring the pot0 -
azoriangaming✭✭✭✭See I'd say yes they are too much if every class had a self heal like GDB or BoL etc but since they don't I think shields are just fine atm as they are.2 -
Galalin✭✭✭✭✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »See I'd say yes they are too much if every class had a self heal like GDB or BoL etc but since they don't I think shields are just fine atm as they are.
Its the damage shields on sorcs that ppl are complaining about... not the shields in general0 -
Soulac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As Stamina NB..
please nerf!
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Tintinabula✭✭✭✭✭
✭I dont have a sorc..but what I find interesting is they can have what seems to be 4-5 different damage shields AND enough spells to cause serious damage. As a DK I dont travel without GBD or Reflective scales...but to use those enough to absorb as much damage as Ive seen absosrbed(roughly 34K in damage)..I would have to be a magika based DK.0 -
Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭It depends. Are you an intelligent and adaptive player who uses the tools given to you? If so, then shields are just fine as is.
If you prefer never having to put more thought into play than rolling your face across the keyboard, then yes they are too much for you.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭✭✭✭Stam builds just want people to roll over for them. They just want to stack weapon damage and spam their insta-crit and they just want you to lay down and die.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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azoriangaming✭✭✭✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »See I'd say yes they are too much if every class had a self heal like GDB or BoL etc but since they don't I think shields are just fine atm as they are.
Its the damage shields on sorcs that ppl are complaining about... not the shields in general
then yes I think the dmg shield in the sorc tree can create unfair advantage as now shields are recastable even before the previous shield has ended, do I think the shield on sorcs is needed due to lack of a heal in the sorc trees the answer is yes, do I think the shield is too large the answer is yes.
things zos could to make things better,
1, Cap the sorc shield to a certain percentage around the sames as the heals from GDB and BoL,
2, Make the shield so you can't cast until the previous one has fully ran out and if you do you waste magicka on the cast,
any other ideas put them in the post to make this a more constructive thread and they may actually do something.
Edited by azoriangaming on March 25, 2015 5:10AM1 -
sicc✭✭✭I don't understand one bit how spamming hardened ward is the problem. It's the endless magicka and regen from no caps that makes everything spammable. As a sorc that stacks magicka my damage is nowhere near what I've seen other classes do. I've never once one shot or even two shot anyone ever.I have to spam shields, use cc between immunities and hope to have better resource management than my opponent to win.4
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Galalin✭✭✭✭✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »rdbrown1987 wrote: »See I'd say yes they are too much if every class had a self heal like GDB or BoL etc but since they don't I think shields are just fine atm as they are.
Its the damage shields on sorcs that ppl are complaining about... not the shields in general
then yes I think the dmg shield in the sorc tree can create unfair advantage as now shields are recastable even before the previous shield has ended, do I think the shield on sorcs is needed due to lack of a heal in the sorc trees the answer is yes, do I think the shield is too large the answer is yes.
things zos could to make things better,
1, Cap the sorc shield to a certain percentage around the sames as the heals from GDB and BoL,
2, Make the shield so you can't cast until the previous one has fully ran out and if you do you waste magicka on the cast,
any other ideas put them in the post to make this a more constructive thread and they may actually do something.
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Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »rdbrown1987 wrote: »See I'd say yes they are too much if every class had a self heal like GDB or BoL etc but since they don't I think shields are just fine atm as they are.
Its the damage shields on sorcs that ppl are complaining about... not the shields in general
then yes I think the dmg shield in the sorc tree can create unfair advantage as now shields are recastable even before the previous shield has ended, do I think the shield on sorcs is needed due to lack of a heal in the sorc trees the answer is yes, do I think the shield is too large the answer is yes.
things zos could to make things better,
1, Cap the sorc shield to a certain percentage around the sames as the heals from GDB and BoL,
2, Make the shield so you can't cast until the previous one has fully ran out and if you do you waste magicka on the cast,
any other ideas put them in the post to make this a more constructive thread and they may actually do something.
No. Unless you are suggesting giving thr sorc shields equally amazing utility like the skills you want to equivocate (bol/gdb). Also, no on the recast idea too. Especially with the zero mitigation bug as it stands today.
May I suggest the whiners learn to adapt? I have no issues killing sorcs. In fact, I get excited when I see a sorc because I know of sure fire and easy ways to kill them on my own sorc, and on my templar, and especially on my dk.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »rdbrown1987 wrote: »See I'd say yes they are too much if every class had a self heal like GDB or BoL etc but since they don't I think shields are just fine atm as they are.
Its the damage shields on sorcs that ppl are complaining about... not the shields in general
then yes I think the dmg shield in the sorc tree can create unfair advantage as now shields are recastable even before the previous shield has ended, do I think the shield on sorcs is needed due to lack of a heal in the sorc trees the answer is yes, do I think the shield is too large the answer is yes.
things zos could to make things better,
1, Cap the sorc shield to a certain percentage around the sames as the heals from GDB and BoL,
2, Make the shield so you can't cast until the previous one has fully ran out and if you do you waste magicka on the cast,
any other ideas put them in the post to make this a more constructive thread and they may actually do something.
Agreed ^^^
Coming from the guy whose dk build allows him to tank half a dozen players at a time and still kill some. Much love though.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Galalin✭✭✭✭✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »rdbrown1987 wrote: »See I'd say yes they are too much if every class had a self heal like GDB or BoL etc but since they don't I think shields are just fine atm as they are.
Its the damage shields on sorcs that ppl are complaining about... not the shields in general
then yes I think the dmg shield in the sorc tree can create unfair advantage as now shields are recastable even before the previous shield has ended, do I think the shield on sorcs is needed due to lack of a heal in the sorc trees the answer is yes, do I think the shield is too large the answer is yes.
things zos could to make things better,
1, Cap the sorc shield to a certain percentage around the sames as the heals from GDB and BoL,
2, Make the shield so you can't cast until the previous one has fully ran out and if you do you waste magicka on the cast,
any other ideas put them in the post to make this a more constructive thread and they may actually do something.
Agreed ^^^
Coming from the guy whose dk build allows him to tank half a dozen players at a time and still kill some. Much love though.
Im just havin some fun with the sorcs... shields could use a small tweek but other than that its not to bad.... you know i love you Vis
I can't tank anymore in 1.6
but i manage to avoid a bit of damage and still put up some ok dps. I just like teasing all you sorcs... i know what it feels like to be on the chopping block.
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✭Another nerf sorc thread? How many will we have this week?
Meanwhile, people have no problems one and two shotting me.Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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Galalin✭✭✭✭✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »Another nerf sorc thread? How many will we have this week?
Meanwhile, people have no problems one and two shotting me.
I would never do such a thing
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Cinnamon_Spider✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »Another nerf sorc thread? How many will we have this week?
Meanwhile, people have no problems one and two shotting me.
I would never do such a thing
You would and you have
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