ZOS, it is time to wield the banhammer against those AD exploiters

Huntler

Tripwyr wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

If there's one thing this thread makes crystal clear, it's what kind of people are in the guild called 'Alacrity'.

Witness the death of a guild's reputation right here, live on the Alliance War forums!

interesting how just one or two people can ruin the image of a guild isn't it?

I remember those days. Back then we were vehemently opposed to exploiting, but over time we realized that ZOS doesn't fix or punish exploiters, and that everybody except us was doing it.

Remind me again, who reported the purge + wall of elements bug/exploit so that everyone finally knew what was going on? With proof? And the thread got removed.... and took 5 months now to go live (maybe).... oh right..

LonePirate

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

Roechacca

Huntler wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

If there's one thing this thread makes crystal clear, it's what kind of people are in the guild called 'Alacrity'.

Witness the death of a guild's reputation right here, live on the Alliance War forums!

interesting how just one or two people can ruin the image of a guild isn't it?

I remember those days. Back then we were vehemently opposed to exploiting, but over time we realized that ZOS doesn't fix or punish exploiters, and that everybody except us was doing it.

Remind me again, who reported the purge + wall of elements bug/exploit so that everyone finally knew what was going on? With proof? And the thread got removed.... and took 5 months now to go live (maybe).... oh right..

I remember Suru posting the info as well .

WRX

Man you guys should really defend your scrolls?

Do you not want them or something?

You guys know those give like points and stuff right??

Rylana

roechacca wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

If there's one thing this thread makes crystal clear, it's what kind of people are in the guild called 'Alacrity'.

Witness the death of a guild's reputation right here, live on the Alliance War forums!

interesting how just one or two people can ruin the image of a guild isn't it?

I remember those days. Back then we were vehemently opposed to exploiting, but over time we realized that ZOS doesn't fix or punish exploiters, and that everybody except us was doing it.

Remind me again, who reported the purge + wall of elements bug/exploit so that everyone finally knew what was going on? With proof? And the thread got removed.... and took 5 months now to go live (maybe).... oh right..

I remember Suru posting the info as well .

And id reported it 2 weeks before that thread with /bug. The fact the responses to the thread were what we had, i was shocked. Theyve known about it for time. But yet it took.... three 1.X patches?

Roechacca

Don't get all holier then thou EP . The healing springs lag ball is still under review as well . I suggest everyone just stop doing questionable things before The Man officially lists something else as exploiting ....

Tripwyr

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Darlgon

ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »

We would also like to point out that reporting in-game behavior on the forums is not as effective as reporting it in-game. As stated in our Terms of Service:

If you genuinely believe someone has violated our Terms of Service, you should report them in-game via the support interface — do not bring the situation onto the official ESO community forums.

Thank you for understanding and for your patience as we work to address this behavior.

@ZOS_AmeliaR Sorry, but.. we players would like to point out that it is practically impossible to target an enemy exploiter, hit the F key, then hit report, while trying to chase them down before they move out of range or defend ourselves against attacks by their allies or even people who dont know the exploiter. In other words, the support interface is useless to 99% of the player base vs exploiters. And, thats assuming we are even close eno to target them in the first place.

JDar

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

This also includes Elder Scroll Gates before anyone asks. And yes, "bad" actually did mean bad, not good, or like the song. Although I did like the pictures you all posted...

What does bad even mean? I didn't see "Bad" in the ToS. Bad for the devs, bad for Ebonheart Pact, bad for ZoS? No such thing as good or bad. Or at least that's what they taught me in liberal moral relativism sociology class in college.

Roechacca

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

themizario

Need pepridge farm meme.

Remember when EP was the under dog and AD was accused of lagging the server?

Remember when AD said they were moving to EP and now EP is accused of lagging the server?

It's a few bad players.

I think I heard some EP rolling over to DC. Wait for it threads about DC lagging servers.

JDar

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

It's "Bad". Which means, it's bad and you should feel bad.

JDar

My group is mostly nightblade cats so I can say we definitely don't Dark Flare spam

Darlgon

Tripwyr wrote: »

They're the only guild on EP which is both skilled and respectable.

I beg to take issue with that comment.

Roechacca

JDar wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

It's "Bad". Which means, it's bad and you should feel bad.

Like Micheal Jackson Bad ?

Tripwyr

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Darlgon wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

They're the only guild on EP which is both skilled and respectable.

I beg to take issue with that comment.

Sorry if you're a member of a skilled and respectable guild, I'm just not aware of any others.

EDIT: I've been reminded that Hijinx still exists. There are 2 guilds.

Roechacca

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Tripwyr

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Might as well stop playing, there is almost no way to play the game without exploiting, intentionally or unintentionally.

Roechacca

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Might as well stop playing, there is almost no way to play the game without exploiting, intentionally or unintentionally.

Fine I'll just PVE then .

Winnamine

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Darlgon wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

They're the only guild on EP which is both skilled and respectable.

I beg to take issue with that comment.

Sorry if you're a member of a skilled and respectable guild, I'm just not aware of any others.

I'd add Hijinx to that list.

Tripwyr

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Might as well stop playing, there is almost no way to play the game without exploiting, intentionally or unintentionally.

Fine I'll just PVE then .

I wish PvE didn't suck so much. Some of the fights are so complicated now that I just don't bother doing them with people who haven't done them before.

Bouvin

GorraShatan wrote: »

Did AD ever managed to actually secure the scroll? I saw a few attempts at this in Thorn Saturday (when I was playing as AD), but they all failed. If anything it was a waste of effort on AD's part. Not that that makes it right.

Yes, twice.

My AD guild was on both times and refused to join the scroll run, despite having the quest.

We don't care if ZOS said it isn't cheating, we'd don't think it's fair and something we won't partake in.

WRX

Winnamine wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Darlgon wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

They're the only guild on EP which is both skilled and respectable.

I beg to take issue with that comment.

Sorry if you're a member of a skilled and respectable guild, I'm just not aware of any others.

I'd add Hijinx to that list.

Id just have Hijinx

Roechacca

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Might as well stop playing, there is almost no way to play the game without exploiting, intentionally or unintentionally.

Fine I'll just PVE then .

I wish PvE didn't suck so much. Some of the fights are so complicated now that I just don't bother doing them with people who haven't done them before.

I'll just PVP on TS . Solo PVE in between . I solo everything I do anyways these days ...

#ForeverAlone

Tripwyr

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Might as well stop playing, there is almost no way to play the game without exploiting, intentionally or unintentionally.

Fine I'll just PVE then .

I wish PvE didn't suck so much. Some of the fights are so complicated now that I just don't bother doing them with people who haven't done them before.

I'll just PVP on TS . Solo PVE in between . I solo everything I do anyways these days ...

#ForeverAlone

They're removing your character copy tomorrow.

Roechacca

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Might as well stop playing, there is almost no way to play the game without exploiting, intentionally or unintentionally.

Fine I'll just PVE then .

I wish PvE didn't suck so much. Some of the fights are so complicated now that I just don't bother doing them with people who haven't done them before.

I'll just PVP on TS . Solo PVE in between . I solo everything I do anyways these days ...

#ForeverAlone

They're removing your character copy tomorrow.

J&$*# T@#*? F#%*^^! C^%!+# !

Ghostbane

Roechacca

Cody

Just like roechacca above me has said: for all you cowards and truly pathetic people abusing the exploits, with the excuse "ZOS says its OK", ZOS JUST SAID IT IS NOT OK TO USE THESE EXPLOITS. SO KNOCK IT OFF. Stop hiding behind cheats like a bunch of cowards, get some skill at the game, play it right, and go from being the most terrible and pathetic players of ESO to being players worthy of being in the game in the first place.

OK, my ranting and constant commenting on this thread is over. ZOS have classified these exploits as the exploits they are, and will, hopefully, take steps to prevent them. That is all I can really ask for at this point. I only hope ZOS goes through with it and fixes the immense cheating problems that have plagued ESO since launch.

TheBull

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

everybody except us was doing it.

Like most sweeping generalizations, this one is untrue as well.

It is a generalization. Every group has within it players who utilize bugged skills. Can you honestly say that nobody in your group uses Lethal Arrow, Dark Flare, Ferocious Leap, or Wall of Elements?

Protip: The answer is no.

Lethal arrow is a exploit ? Since when ?

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ can u confirm this ?

I'm referring to when it was stacking, not right now. However, as it carries a healing debuff it still unintentionally stacks with other sources including another player using it.

Well I didn't know that . What am I suppose to use now ? Harsh language ?

Might as well stop playing, there is almost no way to play the game without exploiting, intentionally or unintentionally.