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SWTOR all over again?
Raaecl
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SWTOR was a great game when it had subscriptions, then they went F2P and all the in game purchases were frustrating. It just puts people off playing the game. Ditch the cash shop and make the game buy to play but with expansion packs, so all players get an equal (and also the best) experience. Im sure most of us wont mind paying for the major updates and zones. There is no need for other in game purchases. The 10% buffs are just P2W.
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Robocles✭✭✭✭✭The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.8 -
Raaecl✭✭The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.2 -
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✭✭✭✭The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
I agree that it wont be penalizing anyone for being Free. But the Cash Shop, based on the Crown Points per sub model, is looking more and more like a SWTOR Cash Shop.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax3 -
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✭✭✭✭The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
LMAO nothing you can currently get in game will be paygated. Everything they place in the Store will more then likely be exclusive to the Store.
Anyone saying otherwise outside of a Dev. Are speculating and fearmongering. They have no evidence of this.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax4 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.
Yah they did. And yes they are.
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Robocles✭✭✭✭✭danno816_ESO wrote: »The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.
Yah they did. And yes they are.
It wasn't in the faq I read... I will defer if you provide me a link.0 -
Durham✭✭✭✭✭
✭This company better do damage control on this ...and release how it will work but they will drag its feet and lose customers....PVP DEADWAIT
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Raaecl✭✭danno816_ESO wrote: »The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.
Yah they did. And yes they are.
Now who do I believe? ESOs devs should be more transparent with us.0 -
IvorySamoan✭✭✭Once people recognise the distinction between B2P and F2P, things may actually calm down around these here' ways.Just returning some video tapes.........3 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SWTOR was a great game when it had subscriptions, then they went F2P and all the in game purchases were frustrating. It just puts people off playing the game. Make the game buy to play but with expansion packs, so all players get an equal (and also the best) experience. Im sure most of us wont mind paying for the major updates and zones. There is no need for other in game purchases. The 10% buffs are just P2W.
Lets be honest here...SWTOR is still a Subscription game..what they call f2p is kick in the nuts to play.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭IvorySamoan wrote: »Once people recognise the distinction between B2P and F2P, things may actually calm down around these here' ways.
This is F2P because all the PC USERS have already bought the game... its JUST LIKE LoTRO... you get bonuses for buying the game then its F2P... its the first paygate to play its WORSE then F2P1 -
Emencie✭✭✭✭danno816_ESO wrote: »The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.
Yah they did. And yes they are.
Now who do I believe? ESOs devs should be more transparent with us.
They did
And if anyone believes they are going to be selling the normal potions we throw away in the cash shop they are deceiving themselves.
The cash shop potions will either be tri-potions, or a new potion that has some advantage over normal potions. Or else no one would buy them.2 -
Rescorla_ESO✭✭✭✭I played SWTOR after it went F2P. I kept paying the monthly subscription just like I did before it went F2P. The maturity of the community was no different before or after the F2P conversion. Since I was still paying a monthly sub, I was never affected by the annoyances of F2P. Based on my experiences in SWTOR after it went F2P, it's really hard for me to take the TESO doom and gloomers seriously. I will continue to pay a sub for TESO and I am predicting my gameplay won't be affected at all by anyone taking advantage of the F2P model.13
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✭✭✭✭✭danno816_ESO wrote: »The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.
Yah they did. And yes they are.
It wasn't in the faq I read... I will defer if you provide me a link.
Hmm... in another thread someone posted this:
"You can spend crowns in the in-game Crown Store to get unique mounts, special vanity pets, a variety of fun costumes for your character, and convenience items like health potions and soul gems."
but now I can't find the exact quote in the faq, so maybe I am wrong, or this person misquoted, or it was changed.0 -
IvorySamoan✭✭✭It's nothing like F2P at all.... you are clearly delusional my good mud crab.Just returning some video tapes.........1
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✭✭✭✭✭danno816_ESO wrote: »The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.
Yah they did. And yes they are.
Now who do I believe? ESOs devs should be more transparent with us.
They did
And if anyone believes they are going to be selling the normal potions we throw away in the cash shop they are deceiving themselves.
The cash shop potions will either be tri-potions, or a new potion that has some advantage over normal potions. Or else no one would buy them.
Ah there it is.0 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭IvorySamoan wrote: »It's nothing like F2P at all.... you are clearly delusional my good mud crab.
Explain the difference, then.0 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭danno816_ESO wrote: »danno816_ESO wrote: »The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
Well its a beginning. From what ive read in the forums it seems that soul gems and potions will also be sold there.
Nowhere did ZOS mention health pots or soul gems. They are so freakin' easy to come by it's not even funny.
Yah they did. And yes they are.
It wasn't in the faq I read... I will defer if you provide me a link.
Hmm... in another thread someone posted this:
"You can spend crowns in the in-game Crown Store to get unique mounts, special vanity pets, a variety of fun costumes for your character, and convenience items like health potions and soul gems."
but now I can't find the exact quote in the faq, so maybe I am wrong, or this person misquoted, or it was changed.
Another example of a company that can't communicate. I just saw that one... I defer.0 -
SWTOR is the worst F2P, followed by LOTRO, maybe you should take a look at The Secret World, B2P, and hope we get something like that.0
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭This is 100% FtP... the only difference is you have to buy the Box as the first pay gate...1
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staticstorm✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »This is 100% FtP... the only difference is you have to buy the Box as the first pay gate...
100% File Transfer Protocol ? did u happen to mean F2P ?4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »IvorySamoan wrote: »Once people recognise the distinction between B2P and F2P, things may actually calm down around these here' ways.
This is F2P because all the PC USERS have already bought the game... its JUST LIKE LoTRO... you get bonuses for buying the game then its F2P... its the first paygate to play its WORSE then F2P
Uhhh, so my house and car were free because I bought them several years ago?
Having to buy a physical copy is a small but relatively effective deterrent to the worst of the f2p crowd.
I can tell you this, if the announcement was actually f2p, like RIFT or LotRO, or Archeage I would not be hanging around to see how it pans out.
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭staticstorm wrote: »Amsel_McKay wrote: »This is 100% FtP... the only difference is you have to buy the Box as the first pay gate...
100% File Transfer Protocol ? did u happen to mean F2P ?
Free to play sorry I dont use the l33t speak1 -
fromtesonlineb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Agreed, ZOS don't seem to be really interested in subscribers, the benefits you get are pretty dismal in terms of value for money in comparison to what you get if you don't pay.The SWTOR model penalizes you if you don't sub... pretty severely. This doesn't, it just gives subs a buff. If you think xp boosts and a bit more gold is P2W in this game, not sure what to tell you.
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staticstorm✭✭Amsel_McKay wrote: »staticstorm wrote: »Amsel_McKay wrote: »This is 100% FtP... the only difference is you have to buy the Box as the first pay gate...
100% File Transfer Protocol ? did u happen to mean F2P ?
Free to play sorry I dont use the l33t speak
sorry that's how companies use it as FTP means something else.
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There's precious little difference between B2P and F2P, B2P isn't a sustainable business model, the revenue they get from the boxes alone will be entirely insufficient to cover more than power costs I expect.flavienbbb16_ESO wrote: »SWTOR is the worst F2P, followed by LOTRO, maybe you should take a look at The Secret World, B2P, and hope we get something like that.
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