VP vs. XP

lordspyder

cyqa wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

THANK YOU GINA! This is all I needed to hear This made me feel so much better, and I can't wait to see the fix in the next patch update.

Agree that is all I wanted to hear also. I'll work on alts till this is fixed.

babylon

Thanks Gina, awesome as always.

Cazic

Thanks for the response Gina.

astro74

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

Thank you. May I ask how long time the patch was out on PTS? I understand that small bugs like this can go unnoticed concidering the complexity of a mmo but maybe you should have the patch on pts for a longer time to increase the chanse that someone might notice things like this that is easy to miss... I mean its not like it affect so many players or anything but still, it would be nice to try and iron out even small insignificant bugs like this one. Keep up the good work

c0rp

Thank you Gina, I will continue to love you again even though you have a husband.

NukeAllTheThings

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

Thank you for the update. But, for clarification, does "next incremental patch" mean the scheduled maintenance early next week? Or does the fall under 1.5.3 and could be further down the line. I ask because I have 2 max level characters and a V11 and a V8 that I had been ranking up to take to end game content. I would like to be able to know where to focus my efforts so that I don't waste efforts on 1 direction or another.

Cazic

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

Can we please get more detail on which XP this applies to? Quests? Mobs? Everything?

stunning

I wonder how many people they will loose before they fix this -- as for me I'm not playing until it does -- waste of time -- I seen Age of Conan destroyed by a bad patch -- it never recovered

Laggus

I guess stop turning in quests until its fixed then??

WraithAzraiel

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

I hope the "next incremental patch" is 1.5.3 and not of Update 6.

WraithAzraiel

Honestly, I think this should be a hotfix BEFORE 1.5.3, but that may just be me.

ZOS_GinaBruno

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

I hope the "next incremental patch" is 1.5.3 and not of Update 6.

It will be 1.5.3.

Vyle_Byte

So does this mean that we should not play our Vets until this gets fixed? I wouldn't imagine you would back credit us for questing and i don't wish to waste my time/xp.


Poor Vyle is going to feel neglected

PS thank you so much for finally communicating with us though, it really is appreciated!

Valen_Byte

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

I hope the "next incremental patch" is 1.5.3 and not of Update 6.

It will be 1.5.3.

Thank you for responding to this. However, I think what we are all wanting to know is when exactly can we expect a fix? Like many others, I am concerned that I will loose out on a lot of xp if I continue to play before the patch. As I doubt there will be any reimbursement for lost xp. Should we continue to play while we wait or wait to play?

stunning

I have a feeling that there will very few players in the lower lvl VR zones until this is fixed -- you not get credit for lost xp -- so why play until than

lordspyder

stunning wrote: »

I have a feeling that there will very few players in the lower lvl zones untild this is fixed -- you not get credit for lost xp -- so why play until than

The lower level XP works just fine, it's the new vet XP that is bugged.

stunning

What I mean is -- Give us one good reason to play a lower vr toon until this is fixed -- and if that is all you have is lower lvl vr toons than players will start to search for another game to play and once they are lost they very seldom return -- just MO

nine9six

Thank you for the update.

That simple gesture on your part has secured my, and 3 other friends continuing 6-Month Subscription, renewing automatically in the morning.

akalabethb14_ESO

Thank you Gina! You got my sub too

Nebthet78

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

Thanks for the update.. however, will ZOS be reimbursing game time to those people who technically have to stop questing or doing solo dungeons in VR zones because of this XP bug?

Unless you can guarantee that if they complete quests they will be back credited the proper XP they should have earned.

This is literally a game stopper for me.

I don't like PVP.. I was never interested in Public or Group dungeons all that much until, they were the last thing I needed to do in that Alliance's area, before going to the next, and I was above level to just get the achievement because it's always a PITA to try to group up with others to complete them.
I am not interested in joining guilds either as most require their members to use Teamspeak and I am not willing to do any of that crap. I am also not interested in doing forced Group content in Craglorn.

Additionally, I don't want to start another Toon from scratch just to have something to do while ya'll fix it.

It's becoming extremely clear, that ZOS doesn't want Casual or Solo oriented players as customers.

I would like to suggest, before Update 6 is launched, ZOS needs to send out a very long survey to every account holder via their email to determine what players actually want rather than tracking posts in forums which only a small number of players actually participate in, and then dealing with the major uproar afterwards.
This I would feel would give ZOS a much, much clearer picture as to what their player base wants and what type of player base they majority of subscribers are.

LonePirate

3rdwardhobocub18_ESO wrote: »

I would like to be able to know where to focus my efforts so that I don't waste efforts on 1 direction or another.

You should try the repeatable quests in Craglorn or Cyrodiil or the new daily Undaunted and Crafting quests. Working on achievements related to Dark a Anchors, Collectibles or the ones in the Character section which require you to kill a certain number of enemy types. These won't impact the Silver and Gold quest and levelling progression and you won't be impacted too much by the existing problems where XP is not being doled out properly.

c0rp

stunning wrote: »

I wonder how many people they will loose before they fix this -- as for me I'm not playing until it does -- waste of time -- I seen Age of Conan destroyed by a bad patch -- it never recovered

She said it was a top priority. I'm sure 1.5.3 will be here soon.

Maotti

LonePirate wrote: »

3rdwardhobocub18_ESO wrote: »

I would like to be able to know where to focus my efforts so that I don't waste efforts on 1 direction or another.

You should try the repeatable quests in Craglorn or Cyrodiil or the new daily Undaunted and Crafting quests. Working on achievements related to Dark a Anchors, Collectibles or the ones in the Character section which require you to kill a certain number of enemy types. These won't impact the Silver and Gold quest and levelling progression and you won't be impacted too much by the existing problems where XP is not being doled out properly.

Haven't they removed XP and questrewards from Cyro/Craglorn quests if you've done them once already?

NukeAllTheThings

LonePirate wrote: »

3rdwardhobocub18_ESO wrote: »

I would like to be able to know where to focus my efforts so that I don't waste efforts on 1 direction or another.

You should try the repeatable quests in Craglorn or Cyrodiil or the new daily Undaunted and Crafting quests. Working on achievements related to Dark a Anchors, Collectibles or the ones in the Character section which require you to kill a certain number of enemy types. These won't impact the Silver and Gold quest and levelling progression and you won't be impacted too much by the existing problems where XP is not being doled out properly.

Thanks for the suggestions. I have most of the achievements I am interested in (I have no desire to internet fish) and did them on my main who I have retired to be my maxed out crafter/enchanter/provisioner/alchemist. I guess I will go play the voidstone lottery once a day and grind dwemer ruins so I can gouge some folks in the market.

jambam817_ESO

This is how it should have been at release. Its a sub MMO, they cant just let everyone get max vet rank within 2 weeks (which, lets face it, they did). At this point the players are going to be upset, it is a huge change that should have happened waaaay before release. I am all for long times for levels, but they just introduced it after 6 months..... Not good.

Averya_Teira

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

Which would be... when ? We're talking two days or two weeks... ?

zaria

Averya_Teira wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the concerns with the change we recently made to experience points and gaining Veteran Levels. Update 5 introduced a new system where all Veteran Points were converted to use XP instead, as part of our phased rollout of the Champion System. The plan was for this to reduce the amount of time it would take to gain a Veteran Rank. However, we discovered an issue where you are not currently gaining as much XP as we intended. Fixing this issue is one of our top priorities. We are currently aiming to have this fixed in our next incremental patch, which will allow you to progress though Veteran Ranks at a faster rate than what you’re currently seeing in-game. Thank you for your patience and understanding!

Which would be... when ? We're talking two days or two weeks... ?

Probably next update or the first next week, its just to change some settings. As its all over its not just some thing who give to litle xp.

felinith66

I read about this issue in the PTS forums weeks before update 1.5 went live, and a number of players wrote that they reported it in-game. Did ZOS just decide to send this bug out to the live servers with update 1.5? I mean, I understand small bugs not being fixed when an update goes live but this is a game-stopper for every vet in the game. How did this not get fixed before the update?

stunning

This is not about just lvling slow but about only being lvl vr3 or 4 fighting vr11's in Craglorn grind because you could not make any xp through all the other area to get you any higher. Carglorn is fine but at lvl vr3 or so and trying to fight vr11's at 5 plus mobs and maybe 2 or 3 of them are 2 dots or better it sucks-- and if you group you recieve less xp defeating what you are trying to do == So the best thing for everyone with a lower vr toon to do is not play until this is fixed or you will have wasted all your quests -- and you are than Screwed -- In the mean time while people are waiting for them to get this fixed they will be looking at other games and there goes the population of this game

starkerealm

stunning wrote: »

In the mean time while people are waiting for them to get this fixed they will be looking at other games and there goes the population of this game

Well... on that subject, Watch Dogs has been surprisingly less crap than I expected it would be.

I'm not going to bail on ESO because of one bjorked patch... but, at the same time... I can see where players would at this point.