Can we have an European Thornblade (EU) topic?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

daemonios wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

washlov wrote: »

AD is clearly exploiting
oh wait no its a lucky coincidence and AD not want it
so why it always happen when they have the entire map?
AD came in superior numbers and than get the lowpop whats there wrong?

Its actually DC and EP exploiting that gives AD the pop bonus.

You are getting tiring. Night caps are not exploits and every faction does it. I'm perfectly happy with night caps/map grabs. The only thing I complain about is that AD does it consistently WHILE getting a low pop bonus that gives you scores that are simply unobtainable by regular playing. You are not underpopulated. You simply shift your population between campaigns in what seems to me an exploitative manner.

Oh, and you keep spamming camps. Which were supposed to be out of the game a month ago.

"you are getting tiring" - as are the people calling exploits I didn't mention night caps
While getting bonus - We actually cap then get the bonus it seems not 'because' of the bonus.
Population - no we are low pop but occasionally our population bands together to stay online when they can to fight back.
Camps - we spam them just as much as other factions.

Any further questions let me know

ToRelax

After Doges was crowned, AD had 3 bars, EP and DC both 1.
AD gets low population bonus.

It's completely irrelevant wether anyone would be successfully exploiting this mechanic, it is not working right, so the fault is at ZOS, period.

Thudunblundur

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

washlov wrote: »

AD is clearly exploiting
oh wait no its a lucky coincidence and AD not want it
so why it always happen when they have the entire map?
AD came in superior numbers and than get the lowpop whats there wrong?

Its actually DC and EP exploiting that gives AD the pop bonus.

You are getting tiring. Night caps are not exploits and every faction does it. I'm perfectly happy with night caps/map grabs. The only thing I complain about is that AD does it consistently WHILE getting a low pop bonus that gives you scores that are simply unobtainable by regular playing. You are not underpopulated. You simply shift your population between campaigns in what seems to me an exploitative manner.

Oh, and you keep spamming camps. Which were supposed to be out of the game a month ago.

"you are getting tiring" - as are the people calling exploits I didn't mention night caps
While getting bonus - We actually cap then get the bonus it seems not 'because' of the bonus.
Population - no we are low pop but occasionally our population bands together to stay online when they can to fight back.
Camps - we spam them just as much as other factions.

Any further questions let me know

Poor persecuted AD. No-one else gets bonuses and AD gets lots without being noticeably lower population. They win campaigns regularly because of this mechanism more than any other factor. And here you are QQing because people think it stinks...Try looking at it the other way - how would you feel if this was happening against you?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

ToRelax wrote: »

After Doges was crowned, AD had 3 bars, EP and DC both 1.
AD gets low population bonus.

It's completely irrelevant wether anyone would be successfully exploiting this mechanic, it is not working right, so the fault is at ZOS, period.

Just cause the hordes of people from EP and DC gave up and sulked off to other campaigns after we crowned doggy doesn't mean we weren't lower pop when we did it. We just took advantage of EP pushing blues for a scroll to get the emp.
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Also @Thudunblundur‌ we have already discussed that you are on the faction responsible for the low pop bonus being given to AD in another thread. I wasn't going to bring up the topic again.

Just because you don't 'notice' a population difference because we still steamroll you with our lower numbers doesn't mean we aren't lower numbers. I'm not saying the bonus is a good thing but its a system which exists so thats why it comes into effect.

DlSTORTlON

Regardless of Low Population Bonuses (which are out of our control), Well done to all AD guilds and players that banded together yesterday and pushed hard for scrolls and emp. The dedication is outstanding. It gave us the momentum to paint the map a nice shade of yellow over the night.

The past three days we've had multiple guild groups running for the first time in a while and it shows! Thanks!

Thudunblundur

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

Regardless of Low Population Bonuses (which are out of our control), Well done to all AD guilds and players that banded together yesterday and pushed hard for scrolls and emp. The dedication is outstanding. It gave us the momentum to paint the map a nice shade of yellow over the night.

The past three days we've had multiple guild groups running for the first time in a while and it shows! Thanks!

Which just so happened to coincide with the first low pop bonuses for a while. How lucky you are!

I would also like to make it clear to red players that the "blues" attacking Chalman today were not recognized by any known players and did not reply in zone despite being begged repeatedly NOT to attack Chalman. All the regulars including randoms were on message. Just these folk nobody knew who weren't.

Thudunblundur

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

After Doges was crowned, AD had 3 bars, EP and DC both 1.
AD gets low population bonus.

It's completely irrelevant wether anyone would be successfully exploiting this mechanic, it is not working right, so the fault is at ZOS, period.

Just cause the hordes of people from EP and DC gave up and sulked off to other campaigns after we crowned doggy doesn't mean we weren't lower pop when we did it. We just took advantage of EP pushing blues for a scroll to get the emp.
________

Also @Thudunblundur‌ we have already discussed that you are on the faction responsible for the low pop bonus being given to AD in another thread. I wasn't going to bring up the topic again.

Just because you don't 'notice' a population difference because we still steamroll you with our lower numbers doesn't mean we aren't lower numbers. I'm not saying the bonus is a good thing but its a system which exists so thats why it comes into effect.

Shrug. You were not the lowest population by any measure available to players and you still got the bonus. You are the only faction that benefits and you have become very good at making the most of it. I should add that I'm replying only so your repeated attempts to defend the indefensible should not go unnoticed. Basically my opinion of the AD is not high, and of their apologists lower. And I'm a moderate in this matter.

heng14rwb17_ESO

Ok let me reveal the truth about why AD get low pop bonus.











AD is destined to WIN !
This is fate - u cannot change it.

Thudunblundur

heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Ok let me reveal the truth about why AD get low pop bonus.











AD is destined to WIN !
This is fate - u cannot change it.

We know. That is why we are upset. Rather spoils the point of a pvp campaign, don't you think?

Yusuf

Calm your buttcheeks blues and reds, AD get the low-pop-bonus 'coz i rarely play pvp nowadays ;P

Or maybe we're all superhackers and prefer to risk being banned instead of just playing the game the way it was supposed to be, whatever you prefer.

Thudunblundur

Yusuf wrote: »

Calm your buttcheeks blues and reds, AD get the low-pop-bonus 'coz i rarely play pvp nowadays ;P

Or maybe we're all superhackers and prefer to risk being banned instead of just playing the game the way it was supposed to be, whatever you prefer.

You don't need to be a superhacker to manipulate a bonus. You don't have to be that clever to troll camp. Doesn't take a genius to log a character in another alliance and cause trouble. Easy and despicable.

edit: typo

DlSTORTlON

@Thudunblundur I think it's time to man up, accept what is and move on. Your QQ and constant conspiracy theories are getting boring. Sorry but it is. Do something about it in game instead of on the forums. Thanks

daemonios

Regardless of any discussions:

- low pop bonus
- camp spamming (basically, the fact that camps are still in the game AT ALL)
- idiotic PvE/PvP tie-in resulting in buff servers
- lag
- skill bugs

all mean that I will continue to shift more and more towards PvE content and ignoring PvP altogether.

I already said last month after the campaign ended that I was tired and frustrated at the result, having put many hours into the campaign to see it result in what I feel was an unfair victory. If I didn't have a great guild who are very fun to play with, I would have already dropped out of Cyrodiil completely.

Thudunblundur

I didn't create this; I'm just telling you what the situation is. As I recently mentioned, if you are yellow and innocent of all shenanigans then you wouldn't know about some of the issues that make yellow appear in a very bad light. As I have consistently said from the start of this issue, this is how it LOOKS. It COULD all be unfortunate coincidence. But fewer and fewer players who aren't yellow believe it.

ToRelax

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

After Doges was crowned, AD had 3 bars, EP and DC both 1.
AD gets low population bonus.

It's completely irrelevant wether anyone would be successfully exploiting this mechanic, it is not working right, so the fault is at ZOS, period.

Just cause the hordes of people from EP and DC gave up and sulked off to other campaigns after we crowned doggy doesn't mean we weren't lower pop when we did it. We just took advantage of EP pushing blues for a scroll to get the emp.
________

Also @Thudunblundur‌ we have already discussed that you are on the faction responsible for the low pop bonus being given to AD in another thread. I wasn't going to bring up the topic again.

Just because you don't 'notice' a population difference because we still steamroll you with our lower numbers doesn't mean we aren't lower numbers. I'm not saying the bonus is a good thing but its a system which exists so thats why it comes into effect.

Sorry, I should clarify that then.
I remember it was AD locked, EP and DC medium some time before you got emp and AD high, EP and DC low afterwards.
There is indeed no evidence that you had lower numbers, rather the opposite.
You aren't seriously still defending that low population bonus, are you ^^ ?

DaggerfallTradeMasters

As one of the few last DC defenders in the night i just want to grats AD on good coordination they took the *** in night yeah so what?

Like we never did nightcapping...

Tbh i think most AD dont like it because now everyone hates them even more.
I didn't see the low pop bonus myself until an AD told me who really dislike it (Themdogsbites)

We depossed the emperor today while we caused lots of lag.... (not that they dont do that) but its just an example all factions do something wrong there is not a perfect faction here.

Anyways i think ZOS should just give it a max like 150 Points because even IF AD is exploiting it (they dont imo) then they shouldn't be able to get 1500+ you can get 400 points max in PVP so it would be nice to give a max of 100 points imo.

So all i want to say in my opinion AD is not exploiting perhaps some but every Alliance has some rotten apples.
Also i want to Grats AD on the good cap/getting Emperor DC lagged some coordination to take Aleswell before EP lost BRK....

themdogesbite

The lag was real at roebeck yesterday. Probably the only way you would ever dethrone me and you know it!

Kromus

This thread turned into argue between three experienced thieves accusing each other for stealing from each other.

Turelus

I did PVP last night... and lead a raid... can I post here again now?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Turelus wrote: »

I did PVP last night... and lead a raid... can I post here again now?

*hugs* welcome back

DaggerfallTradeMasters

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

The lag was real at roebeck yesterday. Probably the only way you would ever dethrone me and you know it!

Now i cant use Devour on you... Yeah i can but no empress blood anymore
(if we got you killed though)

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Thudunblundur wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

After Doges was crowned, AD had 3 bars, EP and DC both 1.
AD gets low population bonus.

It's completely irrelevant wether anyone would be successfully exploiting this mechanic, it is not working right, so the fault is at ZOS, period.

Just cause the hordes of people from EP and DC gave up and sulked off to other campaigns after we crowned doggy doesn't mean we weren't lower pop when we did it. We just took advantage of EP pushing blues for a scroll to get the emp.
________

Also @Thudunblundur‌ we have already discussed that you are on the faction responsible for the low pop bonus being given to AD in another thread. I wasn't going to bring up the topic again.

Just because you don't 'notice' a population difference because we still steamroll you with our lower numbers doesn't mean we aren't lower numbers. I'm not saying the bonus is a good thing but its a system which exists so thats why it comes into effect.

Shrug. You were not the lowest population by any measure available to players and you still got the bonus. You are the only faction that benefits and you have become very good at making the most of it. I should add that I'm replying only so your repeated attempts to defend the indefensible should not go unnoticed. Basically my opinion of the AD is not high, and of their apologists lower. And I'm a moderate in this matter.

You can't cover up the truth you so aptly blundur through. Its you along with your guild who try to manipulate the bonus and this gives it to AD because of your failure. I guess we should thank you for it? In terms of 'making the most of it'. I play PVP. I don't care what the points per hour is, I still play PVP whatever the map looks like, I play PVP.

See a pattern here :P? but wait Cyro is the shape of a triangle....Illuminati has an A in it like AD....


#ThudunblundurLogic.... AD = Illuminati must be true.

Thudunblundur

If you wish to demonstrate your capacity with this thoroughly juvenile line of er, rubbish, that's up to you.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Thudunblundur wrote: »

If you wish to demonstrate your capacity with this thoroughly juvenile line of er, rubbish, that's up to you.

A point you have enforced with every one of your posts yes

AbraXuSeXile

Merry Christmas!

Thudunblundur

To you and to all

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Merry Christmas!

You're mail is full :< How will Santa bring you gifts...

Have a good one \o/

AbraXuSeXile

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Lava_Croft

Happy holidays!

DaggerfallTradeMasters

Merry Christmas everyone