The unbreakable CC

Xnemesis

Volcanic runes + Talons has the same effect but in mass quantity

Lorkhan

Xnemesis wrote: »

Volcanic runes + Talons has the same effect but in mass quantity

Xnemesis

fredthementenrb18_ESO wrote: »

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Xnemesis wrote: »

Volcanic runes + Talons has the same effect but in mass quantity

literally spit mt dew on all my paperwork at work... thanks lol

apostate9

Tintinabula wrote: »

Id like to know exactly what you would like DKs to do?
"cheese mode"?..
I never realized charging a target was "cheesemode" and I am soo sorry that locking a target with talons is so lame after charging you..Perhaps I should offer you tea and crumpets after using invasion and just hope you don't run away?

AND Flamelash when morphed can ONLY be used in succession with a free heal granted if we cast when you're...guess....yes..guess....IMMOBILIZED with talons!! Ta Daaa!!!

So lets make sure the "blame" is laid with the game...not the player.

Agreed, these sort of people are playing by head rules, not the real rules.

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

Lorkhan

apostate9 wrote: »

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Tintinabula wrote: »

Id like to know exactly what you would like DKs to do?
"cheese mode"?..
I never realized charging a target was "cheesemode" and I am soo sorry that locking a target with talons is so lame after charging you..Perhaps I should offer you tea and crumpets after using invasion and just hope you don't run away?

AND Flamelash when morphed can ONLY be used in succession with a free heal granted if we cast when you're...guess....yes..guess....IMMOBILIZED with talons!! Ta Daaa!!!

So lets make sure the "blame" is laid with the game...not the player.

Agreed, these sort of people are playing by head rules, not the real rules.

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

we are talking about unbreakable cc, you know?
use invasion + talons = cant stand up again = bug

Asgari

This is more frustrating to me then the low fps issue that was fixed.

Halrloprillalar

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

This is more frustrating to me then the low fps issue that was fixed.

whoa whoa whoa, please no. I'd rather be able to play the game and occasionally have that stupid bug than not be able to do anything but press 'next slide'

ByrenV

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

This is more frustrating to me then the low fps issue that was fixed.

fixed? not for all

SirAndy

Happened to me several times tonight. No amount of dodge or interrrupt or whatever could brake it.

Plenty of stamina and magicka left, but alas, no dice.

Shaggygaming

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ Are you all going to ignore this one? It is pretty huge for PVP and has totally ruined soloing.

SirAndy

And to add to this, it also happens on PTS with the current build there.

Tested and verified last night.

Mojomonkeyman

SirAndy wrote: »

And to add to this, it also happens on PTS with the current build there.

Tested and verified last night.

That`s quite disheartening.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ , @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

Would you please care to give us a hint on wether this issue is being worked on? The first thread mentioning those unbreakable cc is prolly more than two months old, it was mentioned in developer discussions forum, in PTS forum, in customer support forum and here, but not a single developer reply.

Thanks in advance.

pitdemon_ESO

Just out of curiosity, which combo have Templars been using to do this lately?

I realize that any class can do this, but it's been fairly prevalent coming from Templars, at least in the last 3-4 days or so.

NerfEverything

pitdemon_ESO wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, which combo have Templars been using to do this lately?

I realize that any class can do this, but it's been fairly prevalent coming from Templars, at least in the last 3-4 days or so.

That would be focused charge and piercing javelin I believe. Templar's don't have any immobilize or root abilities, so it must be the stun and the knockback combo.

BTW the stun only works on casting mobs, so it is not nearly as abusable as the DK combo.

pitdemon_ESO

NerfEverything wrote: »

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pitdemon_ESO wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, which combo have Templars been using to do this lately?

I realize that any class can do this, but it's been fairly prevalent coming from Templars, at least in the last 3-4 days or so.

That would be focused charge and piercing javelin I believe. Templar's don't have any immobilize or root abilities, so it must be the stun and the knockback combo.

BTW the stun only works on casting mobs, so it is not nearly as abusable as the DK combo.

Gotcha.

So presumably the only defense would be to block the charge? I guess I can try to deal with that until they smash this bug.

Thanks.

Renuo

This bug seems to have been introduced in the last couple patches or always like this? Pretty awful screw-up and once again ZoS very slow off the mark to get it fixed.

Honfold

Renuo wrote: »

This bug seems to have been introduced in the last couple patches or always like this? Pretty awful screw-up and once again ZoS very slow off the mark to get it fixed.

I believe that it was introduced recently. I have been avoiding recently but it seems to be very well known now.

aksyong

They fix 1 issue, they break 3 more. We have to get used to this soon, since it's quite the norm.

SirAndy

This is so god damn frustrating!
I had to stop playing just now otherwise i'd be having a heart attack.

Un-freaking-unbreakable-unbelieveable ...


Somebody at ZOS please tell me this is on your radar!
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

Ifthir_ESO

aksyong wrote: »

They fix 1 issue, they break 3 more. We have to get used to this soon, since it's quite the norm.

In fairness, ZoS is on it's first MMO. Remember the issues other companies had with their firsts.

Even bringing a AAA game to market these days is a rarity. A lot of them fail to launch outright.

Not saying I dont want the bugs fixed either, but its understandable that there will be a bit of a learning curve.

JackDaniell

I want to host a dueling tournament but I cant with this issue running rampant.
If it is not fixed in 1.3 it will directly effect and begin to irritate me and the 400 members of my guild that keep asking me when the next tourney is. It would be way to hard to try to have a tourney while attempting to restrict combo's that do this.

We already had to solve the decision of not adding dueling to this game. I don't think that the entire PvP community will listen if I ask them to just "stop using some skills".

Honfold

This needs to be addressed quickly, or at least acknowledged. The unbreakable CC is incredibly frustrating. Just rage quit the game because of this bug and the stealth that decides when it works. I am starting to think that this is a design feature since no official response has been given.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

Renuo

I don't think patch fixed this.

Halrloprillalar

Binding javelin is a KD + root in one spell, hence the abuse it is getting from templars.

1.3 is supposed to fix the whole issue... but I have my doubts about ZOS ability to actually 'fix' anything

Renuo

Starting to get ludicrous. How the hell has this not been patched yet.

ferzalrwb17_ESO

There's a few issues with CCs obviously. RM doesn't provide immunity to roots under any circumstance that my group has found. And it doesn't always provide immunity to snares - that's hit and miss. I also see reports of Immovable not working properly.

MeowGinger

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Binding javelin is a KD + root in one spell, hence the abuse it is getting from templars.

1.3 is supposed to fix the whole issue... but I have my doubts about ZOS ability to actually 'fix' anything

No, it's not -- it's just a knockdown, no root/immobility/stun/snare/anything else. It's not two CCs in one.

I've been hit by this too, mostly with talons + invasion/shield charge (possibly with bombard too, but I'm not 100% sure on that particular attack).

I hope CC fixes are implemented properly in the upcoming patch. Would be nice to CC break out of talons too, instead of dodge rolling out.

kijima

Been a victim, and it's awful. All you end up doing is dying and having to respawn at your FOB.

This type of game mechanic does need to be fixed ASAP, for everyone's sake.

david.haypreub18_ESO

Patch 1.3 on the Test Server has the following entry:

"•Immunity granted by Break Free and the immunity given to you after you’re hit by a crowd control ability now provide immunity to all types of crowd control."

I'm not sure if this is meant to address the problem or if it even works... has anyone tested it?

Mojomonkeyman

SirAndy wrote: »

And to add to this, it also happens on PTS with the current build there.

Tested and verified last night.

According to this it wasnt fixed on PTS in 1.3.0 version despite said entry. Cant say whether they have worked on it since.