The unbreakable CC

CapuchinSeven

SBR_QuorTek wrote: »

Stop being silly... sheesh...

There is only one person being silly here and it's you.

Your posts read like someone either enable to grasp what they are saying, or maybe someone who doesn't have English as a first language so they are maybe not understanding the issue that's being presented?

There's a reason why you are literally the only person trying to make your point and everyone else in the room is looking at you baffled.

Lorkhan

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

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SirAndy wrote: »

And to add to this, it also happens on PTS with the current build there.

Tested and verified last night.

According to this it wasnt fixed on PTS in 1.3.0 version despite said entry. Cant say whether they have worked on it since.

sad news....

JLB

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

Patch 1.3 on the Test Server has the following entry:

"•Immunity granted by Break Free and the immunity given to you after you’re hit by a crowd control ability now provide immunity to all types of crowd control."
I'm not sure if this is meant to address the problem or if it even works... has anyone tested it?

The problem with the bug is you can't use Break Free to start with, so this was probably a fix for some other stuff.
I guess this might not be the easiest bug to deal with based on the amount of time it's taking to get fixed, but I really hope it's done when 1.3 goes Live.

Morticielle

ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »

We can hope 1.3 fixes it I guess but I'm dreading 1.3. Absolutely dreading. The last 2 updates have been horrendous disasters and I don't expect this one to be any different.

I agree.

Morticielle

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

This is more frustrating to me then the low fps issue that was fixed.

No, it's not totally fixed, it just being a little bit better. I still have fps 20% lower than before patch 1.2.3, which started this mess.

eventide03b14a_ESO

Basically without any status effect immunity in place it becomes this competition on who gets it off first. Certainly the templar's ability is one of the most annoying but there are many classes/abilities that have this and when you get surrounded by even a couple of people you can basically do nothing but watch yourself die. There should be a very simple mechanic added that grants you a brief immunity to status effects. Even something that lasts for 3 seconds after the effect ends would make combat more enjoyable and dynamic.

Halrloprillalar

MeowGinger wrote: »

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Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Binding javelin is a KD + root in one spell, hence the abuse it is getting from templars.

1.3 is supposed to fix the whole issue... but I have my doubts about ZOS ability to actually 'fix' anything

No, it's not -- it's just a knockdown, no root/immobility/stun/snare/anything else. It's not two CCs in one.

I've been hit by this too, mostly with talons + invasion/shield charge (possibly with bombard too, but I'm not 100% sure on that particular attack).

I hope CC fixes are implemented properly in the upcoming patch. Would be nice to CC break out of talons too, instead of dodge rolling out.

Isn't there a morph that does both a KB/KD and a root?

Umeil

ZOS_MichelleA wrote: »

Hello, everyone. We are actively reading all your feedback, and encourage you to continue to share it with us, but we do ask that you please refrain from creating petition and protest organization threads on our forums. Neither allows for open, constructive discussion or exchange of ideas since most posts consist of "/signed" or "support." Instead, we ask that you offer recommendations, suggestions, or requests about topics you feel need change. In order to continue making improvements to our game, it’s important that we get details from you regarding why you like or dislike something.

We are leaving this thread open for discussion, but we've edited the post to remove the request for single-word responses. If you have any questions or concerns about this edit, or our community rules of conduct, please feel free to contact us. Thank you!

So you take the time to post in the thread but you talk BS. Answer the question or rather (as normal) dont post in the thread. Very sad to see such comment by ESO member.

What are you doing about the unbreakable CC in the game.

Answers are damn simple

1. Nothing we could not care less about them
2. We are looking into the problem but like most issues we have no time on the fix
3. What are you talking about nothing is wrong.

Renuo

It's still absolutely wrecked.

Honfold

Umeil wrote: »

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ZOS_MichelleA wrote: »

Hello, everyone. We are actively reading all your feedback, and encourage you to continue to share it with us, but we do ask that you please refrain from creating petition and protest organization threads on our forums. Neither allows for open, constructive discussion or exchange of ideas since most posts consist of "/signed" or "support." Instead, we ask that you offer recommendations, suggestions, or requests about topics you feel need change. In order to continue making improvements to our game, it’s important that we get details from you regarding why you like or dislike something.

We are leaving this thread open for discussion, but we've edited the post to remove the request for single-word responses. If you have any questions or concerns about this edit, or our community rules of conduct, please feel free to contact us. Thank you!

So you take the time to post in the thread but you talk BS. Answer the question or rather (as normal) dont post in the thread. Very sad to see such comment by ESO member.

What are you doing about the unbreakable CC in the game.

Answers are damn simple

1. Nothing we could not care less about them
2. We are looking into the problem but like most issues we have no time on the fix
3. What are you talking about nothing is wrong.

Yes, because the time it takes to respond to a forum post is equivalent to the time it takes to accurately access the time it takes to fix a major issue in game function. Please refrain from being toxic. I understand that the issues in the game are very frustrating, I have been playing a broken NB Stamina class from the beginning. Please respond to the Zenimax employees with respect if you want them to be more active in the forum.

Krinaman

ZOS_MichelleA wrote: »

Instead, we ask that you offer recommendations, suggestions, or requests about topics you feel need change. In order to continue making improvements to our game, it’s important that we get details from you regarding why you like or dislike something.

So here are my suggestions and recommendations.

- Make a single skill for breaking any and all CC. Preferably the interrupt as the whole double tap thing is simply annoying. Trying to figure out which one you need to do in the heat of battle usually means you just spam both hoping something happens while you try to find your character in the middle of the zerg running over you.
- Give players immunity to any and all CC after their current CC ends. Whether the broke it or not. Seriously, nothing is less fun than going from 100% health to nothing while you get chain stunned and can't get a skill off.

kevlarto_ESO

I can roll, dodge use break free all day long it works great.

Until I get mulitple types of cc on me, then break free does not work, two players working together can use the combo knowing your break free will not work, Is break free not suppose to well break you free if you have the stamina to use it ? I only run into this a few times a day used by certain people.

bitaken

Worse than the KD/Root combo is the (while blocking) fear+Templar Aedric spear knock down bug that gets you knocked down and unable to get up for like ~1 minute when eventually after clicking C + ESC key repeatedly you are able to get up off the ground and participate (but sometimes your abilities are now bugged and you have to relog).

That's the same category of bug you all are talking about. Different combinations of CC do different things in terms of rendering your character powerless. I have even died while blocking and seen the lying on the ground helpless unable to get up - or able to get up but your character "acts" CC'd allowing for CC break to be cast but nothing happens and all your abilities are greyed out - and this is post death.

I just look at it like a work in progress relog and carry on. Nothing is perfect - and the game is a lot better now than it was 1.1 or 1.2.2 when we all saw FPS drops of 1.1-3 FPS during any kind of real fighting. It can be frustrating at times yes, but it's still seemingly better patch over patch than it was and as long as it's improving - I am enjoying the game so I pay my monthly fee and play.

zazamalek

The problem gradually worsened as the patches came by. At launch/early access CC break was pretty reliable.

The patch that broke it the most was the "all types of CC have immunity." Firstly, this patch didn't provide immunity for soft CC (although it did prevent it during dodge rolls) but it seemed to significantly worsen the unbreakable hard CC. It's reached the point where I no longer bother if I do get CC'd and simply take my hands off the keyboard and mouse, waiting for my death is far less frustrating than pressing RMB+LMB and nothing happening.

CC immunity doesn't always get applied, in fact, 1.3 CC immunity that works is by far the exception to the rule. A few <Streak>ing Sorcs can chain stun an entire group: not even enough time to dodgeroll out of their area of control.

I'm slowly relearning to play this game as a game that has chain stuns, because that's very much the case at the moment.

Ezareth

Gotta say this is easily the most frustrating thing in PVP right now and I don't know many people in my circles who would disagree with that. At least 80% of my deaths are caused by this bug....and more and more players are learning to use it. It's like Caltrops all over again.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ any chance on getting a response on this issue?

pitdemon_ESO

bitaken wrote: »

I just look at it like a work in progress relog and carry on. Nothing is perfect - and the game is a lot better now than it was 1.1 or 1.2.2 when we all saw FPS drops of 1.1-3 FPS during any kind of real fighting. It can be frustrating at times yes, but it's still seemingly better patch over patch than it was and as long as it's improving - I am enjoying the game so I pay my monthly fee and play.

This bug has been around since release man.

I usually give ZOS the benefit of the doubt, but I see stuff like this and can't help but think that they honestly don't give a crap about PvP.

pitdemon_ESO

zazamalek wrote: »

The problem gradually worsened as the patches came by. At launch/early access CC break was pretty reliable.

I think it has more to do with the amount of people who know about and abuse the bug vs those who don't than CC break actually being more or less broken

zazamalek

pitdemon_ESO wrote: »

I think it has more to do with the amount of people who know about and abuse the bug vs those who don't than CC break actually being more or less broken

You are most likely correct, good sir. I don't get it man, what do you have to earn from exploiting in PvP? I get why people do it in PvE (although I don't approve of it), gear rewards and all that. In PvP you just killed someone by cheating, it completely defeats the whole purpose of PvP. What is there left to earn in PvP if not bragging rights?

Maybe the PvP population is dwindling because exploiters are getting bored, not because legitimate players are getting sick of the exploits.

Vampiresbane

Support.

mgoss79b14_ESO

Unfortunately this is only one of the major issues affecting Cyrodiil.

Edit: No, the patch note in 1.3 did not make any difference. That patch note seems to be fiction.

Ifthir_ESO

zazamalek wrote: »

I don't get it man, what do you have to earn from exploiting in PvP?

AP.

In a system, people do what the system rewards for. This is a people problem. No game can fix the fact that a lot of people want easy victories and then brag about it to make themselves feel skilled.

Lionxoft

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Gotta say this is easily the most frustrating thing in PVP right now and I don't know many people in my circles who would disagree with that. At least 80% of my deaths are caused by this bug....and more and more players are learning to use it. It's like Caltrops all over again.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ any chance on getting a response on this issue?

Don't count on it.

Krinaman

zazamalek wrote: »

You are most likely correct, good sir. I don't get it man, what do you have to earn from exploiting in PvP? I get why people do it in PvE (although I don't approve of it), gear rewards and all that. In PvP you just killed someone by cheating, it completely defeats the whole purpose of PvP. What is there left to earn in PvP if not bragging rights?

The thing is people don't care how they win, just so long as they win.

Oldtimer209

I would like to see the devs implement a working immunity timer on CC effects, once you have been hit with one we should be immune for 5 seconds as an example.
The Devs need to address these broken game mechanics that are being exploited ASAP.

david.haypreub18_ESO

Nothing about the permastun issue in the 1.4 patch notes, sadly.

Doesn't look like this is getting fixed anytime soon. Please keep posting so we can keep awareness of the problem alive.

pitdemon_ESO

I've canceled my sub pending some mention of this bug.
(I mean if they're working on it, fine, but at least MENTION it)


I can only be so much of a glutton for punishment.

Pixysticks

pitdemon_ESO wrote: »

I've canceled my sub pending some mention of this bug.
(I mean if they're working on it, fine, but at least MENTION it)


I can only be so much of a glutton for punishment.

Same.

JLB

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

Nothing about the permastun issue in the 1.4 patch notes, sadly.

Doesn't look like this is getting fixed anytime soon. Please keep posting so we can keep awareness of the problem alive.

Yep, bad news.

Skafsgaard

support

Perphection

Every ZOS patch should be renamed to Exodus 1.1, Exodus 1.2, etc. considering that each patch alienates another portion of the already dwindling population.

They keep talking about balance, yet in my eyes this is one of the most glaring balance issues in PvP right now. I mean, not being able to break CC is in many situations certain death with no chance of counter play. That seems fair...