LOL dumped down

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

dsalter

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

you do realise it's not live yet right?

ItsRejectz

dsalter wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

you do realise it's not live yet right?

Wrong, it's live

rynth

well hopefully in time all those that cried will unsub and we can then undue all the dumbing down of the game.

dsalter

ItsRejectz wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

you do realise it's not live yet right?

Wrong, it's live

oh wait US or EU?

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

I just let a V8 mob use a heavy attack on me that took it 2 seconds to land, I have 1230 armor....

I sustained 273 damage. Trivial!

Thanks the 9 for PvP, pve has become irrelevant.

Arsenic_Touch

I'm not surprised. Doesn't sound like much middle ground but then again anyone who has paid attention to changes to this game would know that what they say and what they do are often not in sync.

nerevarine1138

One third?

Ok, now I'm not a fan of the change. I was ambivalent before, but I'm not looking forward to groups full of VR12 players who still haven't learned how to move out of the red.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

One third?

Ok, now I'm not a fan of the change. I was ambivalent before, but I'm not looking forward to groups full of VR12 players who still haven't learned how to move out of the red.

V8 mobs went from 3300 hits to around 2150. So not only do they do trivial damage but they are down in 2 hits from my NB, sneak attack, killer strike and they are dead.

nerevarine1138

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

Its not dumbed down, its now accessible by everyone not running hardcore Fotm specs. Stop being an elitist who wants the game to fail.

I have, by all accounts, been running an anti-Flavor-of-the-Month character since launch. I somehow managed to make it to VR12 (just a hint: the "somehow" was that I learned the combat mechanics and played as though they were important).

I am absolutely, 100% positive that we are going to have a wave of complaint threads next week about how hard Craglorn is and that it needs to be brought down to the level of other VR content.

nudel

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

One third?

Ok, now I'm not a fan of the change. I was ambivalent before, but I'm not looking forward to groups full of VR12 players who still haven't learned how to move out of the red.

What did you expect? Have you not seen how ZOS handles nerfs?

rynth

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

I'm not surprised. Doesn't sound like much middle ground but then again anyone who has paid attention to changes to this game would know that what they say and what they do are often not in sync.

really?! not saying you per say but I remember perusing the general forum all the whiners and cries bemoaning how hard VR areas were and how it was impossible to do and hard and this and that. Now they dumb it down people still gripe.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Really do you people know how badly this game was losing subs BECAUSE of VR?

Iam_Epiphany

@ragnar_lodbrok I've been playing PVE content since release on my stamina based nightblade and finding it too easy, it has nothing to do with FOTM specs.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/115102/do-you-think-veteran-content-is-too-hard/p1

starlizard70ub17_ESO

rynth wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

I'm not surprised. Doesn't sound like much middle ground but then again anyone who has paid attention to changes to this game would know that what they say and what they do are often not in sync.

really?! not saying you per say but I remember perusing the general forum all the whiners and cries bemoaning how hard VR areas were and how it was impossible to do and hard and this and that. Now they dumb it down people still gripe.

People are going to find a reason to complain no matter what happens, it's a lose/lose situtation.

Audigy

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

Its not dumbed down, its now accessible by everyone not running hardcore Fotm specs. Stop being an elitist who wants the game to fail.

I don't like Elitism in games, but I still think he is right. The danger of losing people is much higher if you deny them optional content that they enjoyed.

If the VR zones were too hard for you, you could go there with an alt from 1-50.

While I didn't test the zones yet, I think its quite depressing to know that absolutely no knowledge about the class or dodge and interrupt seem to be needed now.

This wont help the game, but put its success in jeopardy. Lets face it, while you might not be such a good player, many are and if they all leave then you will be pretty much alone in this game.

Also ask yourself how you will ever get better if you never try and learn? Don't you want to improve your game?

fethry8oeb17_ESO

NONO NO don't turn the difficulty down, why the hell im playing this anymore, it takes more than 1 sec to figure out tacks!!!!!!! sry haven't played NeW version yet.... change mechs...

Weberda

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

If these numbers are accurate across the board then the VR PvE levels just became a joke.

SaibotLiu

Well, this is what they wanted..

In a year when the game is "mastered" by even the most inept of players and the only thing worth playing the game for is:

Winged Rainbow Bright Pegasus.

Cadwell Signature Trading Card Set:200 Dragonborn coins 175 Dragonborn coins.

I don't want to hear the casuals tell me how much this games sucks. You got exactly what you asked for. Trivial boring crap. Enjoy.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

fethry8oeb17_ESO wrote: »

NONO NO don't turn the difficulty down, why the hell im playing this anymore, it takes more than 1 sec to figure out tacks!!!!!!! sry haven't played NeW version yet.... change mechs...

Let me guess stick and skirt build.

Arsenic_Touch

rynth wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

I'm not surprised. Doesn't sound like much middle ground but then again anyone who has paid attention to changes to this game would know that what they say and what they do are often not in sync.

really?! not saying you per say but I remember perusing the general forum all the whiners and cries bemoaning how hard VR areas were and how it was impossible to do and hard and this and that. Now they dumb it down people still gripe.

You remember a minority within a minority being vocal about things. There's a difference. Every poll on the subject has reflected entirely different from that minority.

Maverick827

Why did people want Nintendo hard leveling anyway?

Leveling is boring. I want challenging end game content, and this change lets me get to said end game quicker with more types of builds. Great change.

Vahrokh

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

Just did some V8 tests. Mob health is reduced by a third, the damage they do is trivial and you don't even have to think about any tactics against groups of 3 mobs....

I would say dumped down. If anyone has problems now then it is a problem between chair and screen.

Its not dumbed down, its now accessible by everyone not running hardcore Fotm specs. Stop being an elitist who wants the game to fail.

I am using a weird, funny spec with all sort of funny abilities yet I found it was easy...

wllstrt75b14_ESO

Lol obviously they tweaked this a bit much. They should have also used their heads and tweaked lower vet areas still making a difficulty progression up to vet 10 area so learning curve still exists. But that's much to intelligent for this team. And much too much work as they are so lazy.

Teevesnacks

You know would be great? Seeing other players questing in VR zones, now I will get to.

fethry8oeb17_ESO

Lagnar_lobrokkssh neip 2h sword/bow 5x med 2x heavy armor dk, and cleared cadwel's gold with it at vr 5

Sihnfahl

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Let me guess stick and skirt build.

Heavy Armor, 2H spec. I can even put up a screenshot of my build, my damage log, etc.

I took down a pair of V10 bears with a single Wrecking Blow and the rest were autoattacks.

I took down a TROLL without my health dropping under 83%. As a stamina-build melee, whereas before, I had to fight because their AUTOATTACKS were hitting me for 20% of my health.

Vuron

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

fethry8oeb17_ESO wrote: »

NONO NO don't turn the difficulty down, why the hell im playing this anymore, it takes more than 1 sec to figure out tacks!!!!!!! sry haven't played NeW version yet.... change mechs...

Let me guess stick and skirt build.

The very fact that you keep bringing up the staff and light armor argument proves that you really have no idea what is going on with this game.

The FotM builds were really only for end-game dungeons (trials and VR). Somehow, people latched on to this idea that they had to play these builds the entire way through VR. Since most of the builds were designed around single-target, boss DPS, they aren't the best builds for leveling. Now, you have people that weren't very good to begin with playing builds that weren't designed for leveling and they are complaining even more.

For the record, I leveled from 1-VR12 using a single DW bar, Medium Armor NB and it was a walk in the park. My 2nd bar was used for nothing more than leveling skills.

Teevesnacks

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

rynth wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

I'm not surprised. Doesn't sound like much middle ground but then again anyone who has paid attention to changes to this game would know that what they say and what they do are often not in sync.

really?! not saying you per say but I remember perusing the general forum all the whiners and cries bemoaning how hard VR areas were and how it was impossible to do and hard and this and that. Now they dumb it down people still gripe.

You remember a minority within a minority being vocal about things. There's a difference. Every poll on the subject has reflected entirely different from that minority.

I think we need a poll asking if players will quit due to VR changes

rynth

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

rynth wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

I'm not surprised. Doesn't sound like much middle ground but then again anyone who has paid attention to changes to this game would know that what they say and what they do are often not in sync.

really?! not saying you per say but I remember perusing the general forum all the whiners and cries bemoaning how hard VR areas were and how it was impossible to do and hard and this and that. Now they dumb it down people still gripe.

You remember a minority within a minority being vocal about things. There's a difference. Every poll on the subject has reflected entirely different from that minority.

if you pay attention to polls on a forum your an idiot (not saying you, but to anybody that pays attention to those polls) and the simple reason is they aren't accurate, they don't reflect the community, hell those whole damn general forum doesn't reflect the "gaming" community.

fethry8oeb17_ESO

Lagnar you sure you play AD? as final boss is kinda fishy, and your 10 mobs are Muahahhaa