[SUGGESTION] Account wide achievements change.

WhiskeyDancer

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Its simple:

Have achievements be account wide.

Have each achievement say in fine print on the bottom of the tooltip the names of the characters that have unlocked them in your account.

User interface for unlocking achievements doesn't really change, only the tooltip and achievements that you've done will be unlocked account wide in journal.

Enodoc

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WhiskeyDancer wrote: »

Have each achievement say in fine print on the bottom of the tooltip the names of the characters that have unlocked them in your account.

I like that idea. Titles would still need to be character-specific, but having the UI telling you which of your characters have unlocked each achievement regardless of which one you're logged on as sounds like a good idea.

diabeticDemon18

This is totally irrelevant but... I need one more agree to get to 100... does anyone love me enough to hit that little button??? ;D But just so I can maybe add to the convo... account wide achievements could be nice, but then once I'm done with them on one toon I would hate to be done with all of my toons...

AlexDougherty

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AaronMB wrote: »

ZOS should make a super achievement for earning them all, on every toon.

That would be nice, but given the rate of drops for collections and Dwemer motifs that is probably impossible.

Maybe some achievements if you unlock all of a category on all your characters, like universal Pathfinder.

AlexDougherty

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diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

account wide achievements could be nice, but then once I'm done with them on one toon I would hate to be done with all of my toons...

That's the problem with account wide achievements, once they are unlocked you don't feel the need to do them ever again, and the game has less to do.

Now personally I want my achievements seperate, admittedly it makes the Collectibles a pain in the proverbial, but the rest works better seperate. Each character works towards their own set of achievements (I have 2 VR1 chars, 1 VR2 and one level 25, and I like them seperate) as this gives me a feel of my characters growing and doing stuff.

The_Sadist

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Enodoc wrote: »

WhiskeyDancer wrote: »

Have each achievement say in fine print on the bottom of the tooltip the names of the characters that have unlocked them in your account.

I like that idea. Titles would still need to be character-specific, but having the UI telling you which of your characters have unlocked each achievement regardless of which one you're logged on as sounds like a good idea.

This would make the whole thing semi pointless. A shared achievement system would mean shared titles and no real need to repeat the process. That being said only specific achievements will be shared and I don't think the ones I have in mind have many achievements (fishing, collectibles, crafting and some miscellaneous achievements here and there).

AlexDougherty wrote: »

AaronMB wrote: »

ZOS should make a super achievement for earning them all, on every toon.

That would be nice, but given the rate of drops for collections and Dwemer motifs that is probably impossible.

Maybe some achievements if you unlock all of a category on all your characters, like universal Pathfinder.

I personally think it's a silly idea, but that's just me.

AlexDougherty wrote: »

diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

account wide achievements could be nice, but then once I'm done with them on one toon I would hate to be done with all of my toons...

That's the problem with account wide achievements, once they are unlocked you don't feel the need to do them ever again, and the game has less to do.

Now personally I want my achievements seperate, admittedly it makes the Collectibles a pain in the proverbial, but the rest works better seperate. Each character works towards their own set of achievements (I have 2 VR1 chars, 1 VR2 and one level 25, and I like them seperate) as this gives me a feel of my characters growing and doing stuff.

SPECIFIC account wide achievements, perhaps posters should go back and read the actual suggestion outside of the title? There's still a whole lot to do on alts plus there's basically 6 months of PvP achievements just sitting there per character. I'm all for having certain achievements character specific as it does make a degree of sense, but things like fishing, crafting and collectibles could be account wide without breaking the flow of the story and whatnot.

At any rate, it's good to see the poll getting more and more votes.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

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I am completely against this. If you achieved it you achieved it. Its nothin g but neurotic to NEED the achievement to show on all characters. I like not having the achievement's on my alts. If you've achieved everything try recognizing your achievement and don't force every new alt in the game to lose a fresh slate.
I like the account wide champion system idea. Did it occor to you that you won't be able to level undaunted easily if all the achivements are already done on new too? Or do you think your new toon should stsret full level undaunted.

MercutioElessar

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brandon wrote: »

Like I said in the other thread. It is a feeling of accomplishment. Also as @I55UE5 said in the other thread being able to show off what I did with individual classes.

What he says.

Mordria

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dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

I am completely against this. If you achieved it you achieved it. Its nothin g but neurotic to NEED the achievement to show on all characters. I like not having the achievement's on my alts. If you've achieved everything try recognizing your achievement and don't force every new alt in the game to lose a fresh slate.
I like the account wide champion system idea. Did it occor to you that you won't be able to level undaunted easily if all the achivements are already done on new too? Or do you think your new toon should stsret full level undaunted.

Exactly. Some of us at least like the illusion of starting a new game even though we know we are going to have a full bank and some pretty noob armor when starting a new character. Wanting account wide achievements is just lazy.

The_Sadist

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dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

I am completely against this. If you achieved it you achieved it. Its nothin g but neurotic to NEED the achievement to show on all characters. I like not having the achievement's on my alts. If you've achieved everything try recognizing your achievement and don't force every new alt in the game to lose a fresh slate.
I like the account wide champion system idea. Did it occor to you that you won't be able to level undaunted easily if all the achivements are already done on new too? Or do you think your new toon should stsret full level undaunted.

Please. Read. The. First. Post. Before. Posting.

I very clearly stated SOME achievements will be account wide and pointed out that those which reward skill points / undaunted exp would obviously not be included. There's nothing neurotic about wanting the certain extremely time consuming and obvious filler achievements being made account wide, I believe actually the opposite is true.
I don't treat new alts as fresh slates, my Sorcerer is and will always be my main and any alts I create are purely to benefit my guild / try a new class / fill role gaps.. But that's just me.

Mordria wrote: »

Exactly. Some of us at least like the illusion of starting a new game even though we know we are going to have a full bank and some pretty noob armor when starting a new character. Wanting account wide achievements is just lazy.

You're using the word lazy wrong, there's nothing lazy about farming collectibles for literal weeks and not wanting to do it all over again multiple times. Feel free to fish, gather collectibles and open a thousand chests on each new character... And to shake it up, if you want the illusion of a new game don't use dyes / create gear or interact at all with any of your characters, it's not complicated stuff.

MercutioElessar wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

Like I said in the other thread. It is a feeling of accomplishment. Also as @I55UE5 said in the other thread being able to show off what I did with individual classes.

What he says.

I can only feel so accomplished before it becomes an obvious time sink and filler. That being said, individual classes mean nothing when it comes to fishing or gathering nodes or opening chests or farming low level dolmens.

Medakon

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I vote yes for this. I don't play on more characters than one because its my main and I spendt so much time geting acivment points, got about 12k+ and have emperor etc. I really wanna play on my other characters and join my friends in other factions but the time I spendt on geting those acivments dosnt make it worth it.. got 50days+ on my main if I do /played. I don't feel like starting all over again..

Gidorick

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The_Sadist wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

No... because I have multiple characters and I use achievements to track if I've gotten everything in an area... with each character.

While I can respect that, there are addons which would fix this issue. Like I said, not all achievements would be shared, the core ones will remain character specific. Those which would otherwise be deemed a time sink would only be changed accordingly. I'm all for having achievements which require you to complete everything (e.g. skyshards, boss killing etc) but fishing and collectibles, for example, don't fall into this category.

I don't use add-ons. I tried some and quite enjoyed some but the unreliability of them and the fact that each update usually meant an update to my add-on was annoying enough for me to uninstall them.

Now, account-wide achievements WITH character specific achievements wouldn't be all that bad. I'd vote "yes" for that idea.

The_Sadist

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Gidorick wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

No... because I have multiple characters and I use achievements to track if I've gotten everything in an area... with each character.

While I can respect that, there are addons which would fix this issue. Like I said, not all achievements would be shared, the core ones will remain character specific. Those which would otherwise be deemed a time sink would only be changed accordingly. I'm all for having achievements which require you to complete everything (e.g. skyshards, boss killing etc) but fishing and collectibles, for example, don't fall into this category.

I don't use add-ons. I tried some and quite enjoyed some but the unreliability of them and the fact that each update usually meant an update to my add-on was annoying enough for me to uninstall them.

Now, account-wide achievements WITH character specific achievements wouldn't be all that bad. I'd vote "yes" for that idea.

Well I quite enjoy the addons I have, it's a shame you find them to be unreliable, but that's sometimes the case. I couldn't go back to ESO prior to my addons.. they're quite handy to have.

That's exactly what I want at this stage.. I'm currently fishing on my main and have just hit 8k achievement points on my main alt, I don't think I'll ever have the motivation to fish or farm collectibles again.

Asgari

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Having multiple characters is great. Having to get the same achievements over and over that are incredibly time consuming are not.

WhiskyBob

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Account wide achievements but not all of them.

-Not PVP achievements
-Not title achievements
-Not crafting achievements

Ganacampo

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Please not.

How am I going to find out, which achievement has been accomplished by which character then?

This sounds horrible.

Master_Fluff

It's enough to have the Dye Station colours, bank space & guild membership accountwide. We don't need achievement points shared between our characters.

The_Sadist

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WhiskyBob wrote: »

Account wide achievements but not all of them.

-Not PVP achievements
-Not title achievements
-Not crafting achievements

I'm a little bit confused about why you're against crafting achievements given how it's a bit pointless to max them on multiple toons outside of hirelings. I can understand PvP achievements and certain title achievements but as a whole I was half hoping crafting achievements would make the cut. There's some incentive to max them regardless, namely hirelings, so it does make a degree of sense to me. That being said you voted no regardless, so eh.

Ganacampo wrote: »

Please not.

How am I going to find out, which achievement has been accomplished by which character then?

This sounds horrible.

Well, if certain achievements are account specific you'll only need to complete them once and not individually.. I'm not entirely sure what the issue is. I also said only certain achievements will be account wide, not all of them, so it's safe to assume those which require skyshards or landmarks or dungeons will remain character specific.

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

It's enough to have the Dye Station colours, bank space & guild membership accountwide. We don't need achievement points shared between our characters.

You can choose not to use the colours on alts who don't have them unlocked, ignore the bank completely and join 5 different guilds in which you turn the chat off for each guild which your specific character isn't associated with. That being said the shared achievement system isn't a complete one, simply achievements which are filler and time consuming.. as mentioned several times now.

Mordria

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Ganacampo wrote: »

Please not.

How am I going to find out, which achievement has been accomplished by which character then?

This sounds horrible.

Yep, it would be. Almost as horrible as Cadwell's Silver & Gold, shared banks, and <@names&gt;.

The_Sadist

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Mordria wrote: »

Ganacampo wrote: »

Please not.

How am I going to find out, which achievement has been accomplished by which character then?

This sounds horrible.

Yep, it would be. Almost as horrible as Cadwell's Silver & Gold, shared banks, and <@names&gt;.

In your opinion it would be, in my opinion farming monsters for potential months for the collectibles on each character or fishing for weeks is quite horrible.

I'm indifferent to Cadwell's Silver and Gold, quite enjoy the shared banking system and find the @names irrelevant for the most part, but that's just me.

Mordria

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The_Sadist wrote: »

I'm indifferent to Cadwell's Silver and Gold, quite enjoy the shared banking system and find the @names irrelevant for the most part, but that's just me.

I'm not surprised.

zaria

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Voted against however it depend a bit, you get lots of achievements for stuff you need to do to level up anyway, quests, dungeons and skyshards.
Here the achievements are actually useful to keep track of status.

Then you have another group who is for other stuff who is pretty much plain grinding especially doing dolmen bosses who could be global.

The_Sadist

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zaria wrote: »

Voted against however it depend a bit, you get lots of achievements for stuff you need to do to level up anyway, quests, dungeons and skyshards.
Here the achievements are actually useful to keep track of status.

Then you have another group who is for other stuff who is pretty much plain grinding especially doing dolmen bosses who could be global.

Well, if you read the whole first topic before voting, you would have seen that I'm hoping for a system more or less the same as the one you yourself suggested. I'd anticipate both character specific and account wide achievements. For example, crafting on numerous characters, collectibles, fishing, certain 'character' achievements and potentially some aspects of the 'alliance war' section (granted this is rather grey, so perhaps not) will all be account wide and the rest will remain character specific.

I'm in the process of leveling my second alt to rank 14 via raw questing now and I honestly think that's painful enough!

The_Sadist

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So I've almost hit 13k achievement points on the main and I'm very much over collectible farming (seriously, 3 wamasu spawns for an EP player zz) and felt like giving this thread a good old bump.

Despite actively farming collectibles I'm still missing a few. My current record is over 26 hours dry before dropping a collectible. The notion of doing this 3 more times minimum is.. disheartening to say the least.

Iago

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I like having achievements Charachter bound so I know what each charachter has done.

jpp

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For:
Achievements are my achievements - they show how much effort and time I've spent in game.
- So I would even extend this to say.. Char1 collects 250 nodes and Char2 collects 250 nodes then I got 500 collected achivment.

So all achivments should be account wide.

The_Sadist

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Iago wrote: »

I like having achievements Charachter bound so I know what each charachter has done.

Please read through the thread, or at the very least the first actual post, before voting / posting. As stated only specific achievements will be account wide and a majority will still be character specific, things like collectibles and fishing have no bearing on your character and are simply filler (outside of achievement points and whatnot)... and that's half the issue.

Wizzo91

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I don't see the point in this dicussion. For people that don't care about achievements/dyes/titles ths system is useless. It is also useless for people that enjoy achievements because they can do them only once.

Also aren't dyes account wide?

Iago

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Wizzo91 wrote: »

I don't see the point in this dicussion. For people that don't care about achievements/dyes/titles ths system is useless. It is also useless for people that enjoy achievements because they can do them only once.

Also aren't dyes account wide?

dyes are in fact account wide.

ThumbShanks

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It's simple, make it so achievements are account wide, have a option to hide achievements not gained on the current character, thus allowing those who are completionists to go out and complete the achievements on the character. Those who are not about completionism with every single character simply will be able to see what achievements account wide they have. While also making the title achievements locked until the character has it completed.

Bam mindblown!