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The Markarth DLC and Update 28 base game patch are now available to test on the PTS! Read the full patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts/
Reddit the official ESO forums
Mablung
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Provided is a link to todays patch notes posted on reddit. If you scan through the responses you will see questions and issues being responded to by @ZOS_GinaBruno. ZOS on Reddit
My question, why do those posting issues and questions get rapid response on the non official forum? Do we need to create accounts there and voice our questions/concerns on reddit? Or would we just get moderated/down voted into non existence there?
My question, why do those posting issues and questions get rapid response on the non official forum? Do we need to create accounts there and voice our questions/concerns on reddit? Or would we just get moderated/down voted into non existence there?
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xanikk999✭✭✭It's a joke.
Why do we even have "official" forums if the developers don't care to use them to interact with players?
The most positive gaming forums were the ones were devs and reps actually didn't keep people in the dark. If they cared about getting burned on the forums all they would have to do would be to moderate the bad posts.
Not everyone cares about twitter or reddit. Personally I hate twitter with a passion. It's a glorified diary for people who are self obsessed and what others to know what they are doing every waking minute of the day. -
nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, maybe if the Reddit community didn't show a consistent ability to be more thoughtful and respectful in their replies than this community, ZO would probably spend more time here.----
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✭I dont mind, I can actually tell them what I think of the job they are doing without a 3 day game ban -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, maybe if the Reddit community didn't show a consistent ability to be more thoughtful and respectful in their replies than this community, ZO would probably spend more time here.
That is BS. I have read many threads on reddit where people voice the same discontent as they do here. Like the poster above stated, here they have complete control to moderate posts that go to extremes and keep things on topic.
Wake up @nerevarine1138Edited by Mablung on June 24, 2014 9:00PM -
xanikk999✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, maybe if the Reddit community didn't show a consistent ability to be more thoughtful and respectful in their replies than this community, ZO would probably spend more time here.
It's not like the devs ever gave these forums a chance. And I think your assumption of Reddit as being filled with thoughtful and respectful replies quite humurous.
Being kept in the dark kind of makes people a bit agitated.
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I And I think your assumption of Reddit as being filled with thoughtful and respectful replies quite humurous.
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CATS!!! ERMERGERD!!!!
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nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, maybe if the Reddit community didn't show a consistent ability to be more thoughtful and respectful in their replies than this community, ZO would probably spend more time here.
It's not like the devs ever gave these forums a chance. And I think your assumption of Reddit as being filled with thoughtful and respectful replies quite humurous.
Being kept in the dark kind of makes people a bit agitated.
The sad reality is that Reddit is a more thoughtful and respectful environment than this forum. Think about that for a moment. This community is outclassed by Reddit. That should make you agitated.----
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Aeradon✭✭✭✭✭You're here, you're already a paying customer.
Reddit is out there, it yields more potential.People keep telling me they're gonna buy me an ale. They never do.
There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's culture. And the Elves.
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xanikk999✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, maybe if the Reddit community didn't show a consistent ability to be more thoughtful and respectful in their replies than this community, ZO would probably spend more time here.
It's not like the devs ever gave these forums a chance. And I think your assumption of Reddit as being filled with thoughtful and respectful replies quite humurous.
Being kept in the dark kind of makes people a bit agitated.
The sad reality is that Reddit is a more thoughtful and respectful environment than this forum. Think about that for a moment. This community is outclassed by Reddit. That should make you agitated.
The sad reality is that you do not understand the difference between facts and opinions.
Care to back your statement?
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Mablung✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, maybe if the Reddit community didn't show a consistent ability to be more thoughtful and respectful in their replies than this community, ZO would probably spend more time here.
It's not like the devs ever gave these forums a chance. And I think your assumption of Reddit as being filled with thoughtful and respectful replies quite humurous.
Being kept in the dark kind of makes people a bit agitated.
The sad reality is that Reddit is a more thoughtful and respectful environment than this forum. Think about that for a moment. This community is outclassed by Reddit. That should make you agitated.
I browse those forums regularly and have to disagree. Yes there are fewer trolls there but the tone is the same on issues related to the game. This forum could be controlled much more easily by ZOS. I do not understand why they do not proactively take action against flame/troll posts like the one about cats up above.
This is their environment. They can play forum god if they so chose and honestly would in all likelihood avoid a ton of negativity if they would be as present here as they are elsewhere. -
drogon1✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, maybe if the Reddit community didn't show a consistent ability to be more thoughtful and respectful in their replies than this community, ZO would probably spend more time here.
Are you serious? Are we talking about the same Reddit forums or is there another Reddit site of which I am unaware?
Reddit ESO also does not seem to get as much traffic as here. It has certainly dwindled significantly since ESO launched.
ESO forums should be the primary (thus, "official") forums where ZoS communicates to its player base.Edited by drogon1 on June 24, 2014 9:11PM -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭This patch was first announced there and only confirmed here when someone posted the link here. It is well known action is taken based on reddit. Whine on reddit stuff gets nerfed or buffed here it is ignored or closed. This is the last place they communicate. Basically it goes reddit, twitter, Facebook then here is they remember.
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xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don't think you deserve special treatment because you picked this forum over another. Reddit is popular and has a big audience, it's smart for them to make use of it. Plus, the info there from players is often better than what we see here, and too many treat the off. forums as just a complaint department/suggestion box. I see much more widespread discussion over there, not much, but a little. If you only picked this forum b/c you thought it would make you special, then you probably made a bad choice.
Would you get downvoted to oblivion? If you came in there like a jerk you might, but not if you were constructive.
And most of the complaints about reddit have been pretty ignorant. Days ago someone cried b/c someone posted the release date for the dungeon today on reddit as a response, even though I knew about the release date from a couple weeks ago from the official website. Same with this, reddit pretty much linked to the official forums for the patch notes, they copy/pasted the info and ZoS pointed out that they were editing that info and they should check back - god forbid we let 40K plus people that might see that know the patch info is getting updated. Do they answer stuff independently there? Sure, again, smart to not limit yourself to one audience. They've also showed up on other gaming forums and in podcasts and streams as well.NA • PC • AD • Characters (Argonian Tanks, Khajiit StamDD, Breton MagDD):
NBs: Hist-Shadow: Xaraan (Master Crafter), Pirate: Xaraan-dar, Sun's Dusk Reaper: Xa-Raan (Vampire)
Templars: Shadow Breaker: Xaraanosaur, Extinguisher of Flames: Xaraan-do, Sanctifier: Xåraan
Dragon Knights: Alpha Predator: Xaraanosaurus, Huntmaster: Xaraan-da, Paragon: Xãraan
Sorcs: Undaunted: Xaraanosorcus, Stormproof: Xaraan-ra, Clockwork Cofounder: Xa'Raan
Wardens: Shield of the North: Xaraanodon, Guardian of the Green: Xaraan-jo, Master Angler: Xäraan
Necros: Boethia's Scythe: Xaraan-Vahat, Silencer: Xaraan-qa, Witch: Xaraana (Vampire)
CP 1600+ • My House • vAAHM, vHRCHM, vSOHM, vDSA, vMoLHM, vMA(FC), vHoFHM, vAS+2, vCR+3, vSSHMx3, vKAHMx3 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭
I think you fail at reading comprehension. Read what you post. You stated there are threads titled or with subject content containing "This game is crap", which my understand is you were referencing these forums? Or you realized that and fail at debate 101.Edited by Mablung on June 24, 2014 9:31PM -
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I think you fail at reading comprehension. Read what your post. You stated there are threads titled or with subject content containing "This game is crap", which my understand is you were referencing these forums? Or you realized that and fail at debate 101.
Erm... read again. I said there ISN'T so many threads saying "this game is crap" Now who is struggling with comprehension
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Mablung✭✭✭✭✭I don't think you deserve special treatment because you picked this forum over another. Reddit is popular and has a big audience, it's smart for them to make use of it. Plus, the info there from players is often better than what we see here, and too many treat the off. forums as just a complaint department/suggestion box. I see much more widespread discussion over there, not much, but a little. If you only picked this forum b/c you thought it would make you special, then you probably made a bad choice.
Would you get downvoted to oblivion? If you came in there like a jerk you might, but not if you were constructive.
And most of the complaints about reddit have been pretty ignorant. Days ago someone cried b/c someone posted the release date for the dungeon today on reddit as a response, even though I knew about the release date from a couple weeks ago from the official website. Same with this, reddit pretty much linked to the official forums for the patch notes, they copy/pasted the info and ZoS pointed out that they were editing that info and they should check back - god forbid we let 40K plus people that might see that know the patch info is getting updated. Do they answer stuff independently there? Sure, again, smart to not limit yourself to one audience. They've also showed up on other gaming forums and in podcasts and streams as well.
I think you miss the point of my post. I am not debating whether its smart or not to use other social media to communicate or promote the game. I am asking why such a huge difference in communication?
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I think you fail at reading comprehension. Read what your post. You stated there are threads titled or with subject content containing "This game is crap", which my understand is you were referencing these forums? Or you realized that and fail at debate 101.
Erm... read again. I said there ISN'T so many threads saying "this game is crap" Now who is struggling with comprehension
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Hilgara✭✭✭✭✭
Wow you really are struggling. I meant the reddit forums arent full of "this game is crap" threads and maybe thats why ESO favours them.... Is that clear?
Your post still implies that there are posts like what you describe here on these forums, again I ask you to provide links.
Go back, read again, this time....concentrate!Edited by Hilgara on June 24, 2014 9:36PM -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Considering I pointed out two big fallacies with two of the bigger examples I've seen lately about reddit, I don't think I missed the point.
I use both sites and find useful information on both, though I do find more useful info not from ZoS employees on other sites than this one.
If you worked for me working customer service/social media and I ran ZoS I would definitely have you spending a given amount of time on a site like reddit. That might mean you would miss a question on one site or the other when you were on one of the two and answer it wherever you are at. It happens. Do what reddit does, publish a thread and link to it, they don't cry that info is posted somewhere else, they post it and link it.
That subreddit is run pretty well compared to some other as well. They have all the ZoS folks tagged so they stand out, they allow any sort of self promotion, something most subreddits forbid, etc. It's a solid community and people should quit whining about ZoS actually responding to customers just b/c it wasn't on this forum.NA • PC • AD • Characters (Argonian Tanks, Khajiit StamDD, Breton MagDD):
NBs: Hist-Shadow: Xaraan (Master Crafter), Pirate: Xaraan-dar, Sun's Dusk Reaper: Xa-Raan (Vampire)
Templars: Shadow Breaker: Xaraanosaur, Extinguisher of Flames: Xaraan-do, Sanctifier: Xåraan
Dragon Knights: Alpha Predator: Xaraanosaurus, Huntmaster: Xaraan-da, Paragon: Xãraan
Sorcs: Undaunted: Xaraanosorcus, Stormproof: Xaraan-ra, Clockwork Cofounder: Xa'Raan
Wardens: Shield of the North: Xaraanodon, Guardian of the Green: Xaraan-jo, Master Angler: Xäraan
Necros: Boethia's Scythe: Xaraan-Vahat, Silencer: Xaraan-qa, Witch: Xaraana (Vampire)
CP 1600+ • My House • vAAHM, vHRCHM, vSOHM, vDSA, vMoLHM, vMA(FC), vHoFHM, vAS+2, vCR+3, vSSHMx3, vKAHMx3 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭
Wow you really are struggling. I meant the reddit forums arent full of "this game is crap" threads and maybe thats why ESO favours them.... Is that clear?
Your post still implies that there are posts like what you describe here on these forums, again I ask you to provide links.
Go back, read again, this time....concentrate!
I know what you meant. With your statement, you imply that these forums have those types of threads...nevermind. You are now trolling. -
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Wow you really are struggling. I meant the reddit forums arent full of "this game is crap" threads and maybe thats why ESO favours them.... Is that clear?
Your post still implies that there are posts like what you describe here on these forums, again I ask you to provide links.
Go back, read again, this time....concentrate!
Somehow I doubt this; if true, however, it would make ZoS look neglectful and evasive to its playerbase - not a good way to build player confidence.
Reddit is a good forum in general, but the ESO reddit doesn't have the traffic as the official forums any more.
