VR Difficulty change?

Raggok

phairdon wrote: »

Dreads the thought of encountering mobs with one or more healers

Tried a pack of three with one mender a few times. Mender had over 4K HP so couldn't be spiked down. Damage from the other two mobs decimated my stamina so I couldn't sustain interrupting the heals. Didn't go so well for me.

Raggok

Yankee wrote: »

VR5 Daodreth almost 17k HP now. Can be soloed without Ulitmate if one has the desire and room for several minutes of kiting. And you do not want to get hit very many times.

Not really into it when I have to wade through one after another to get where I need to go. I can still sometimes kill 3 mob sets but it went from an okay challenge as long as I did not mess up to not fun any more.

Threads on this been up for hours and I know of no acknowledgement if it was intended or if they are looking into it.

Just...amazed.

It would take less than 5 minutes to investigate this issue and give us a response. What does that tell you?

SteveCampsOut

LonePirate wrote: »

Also, plenty of things find their way into the game but not the patch notes, such as the motif drop rate nerf which was included in 1.0.5 but wasn't acknowledged until today as being in that patch. I suspect this very same thing happened with this VR mob buff.

You know, if this rumour is true, how did the guy in my Elder Scrolls Users Group on facebook just get 3 Daedric Motif's in just under 4 hours?

Chirru

Sakiri wrote: »

Kiwi wrote: »

3 seconds worth of damage

v3 dk in full custom crafted v3 heavy armor with v3 sword&board and max HP stat, overcharged armor and spell resist

Is black winter the force choke?

NPC ability names are foreign to me with no combat log detailing or anything.

Because if it is, youre supposed to cc break that.

You are kidding me...no, you are not. This is an completely insane summery.
Talons radius got nerfed.

To even mention that heavy attacks do more damage and need to be charged is an insult on top of injury.

roll-dodge and sprint use a lot of stamina which is need to block.

Who comes up with this kind of BS

Chirru

sorry...got the wrong quote there please read the hidden quote.

JoyEnergiser

My god, can you people do nothing but [snip] and moan like cry babies.

rotatorkuf

i'm a little concerned that they haven't even done "we're looking into this"

yet they're replying to a bunch of other threads unrelated to this

SilverWF

If ZO thinks they can force me to find a group, or craft gold gear, or spend a hours in creating tactics just to killing ordinary mobs (not even elites or bosses), so I think I can say to them: F*ck you, ZO!
And fire your main game designer.

SteveCampsOut

Now that I finally have my VR 2.5 Sorcerer in Deshaan, I can unequivocally say their HP has not been doubled nor do they hit harder than yesterday!

Nitratas

Rofl, the content was already insane and frustrating at some times. I can't imagine how impossible it is now. Is zenimax out of their *** minds? They're just ruining the game buy making players become frustrated. Not to mention those repair costs..

SirAndy

LonePirate wrote: »

I am convinced the PTS crowd doesn't actually test the game. Rather, they spend the entire time looking for ways to exploit the game and learn the new content so they can power through it. PTS testers, by and large, are a joke.

@LonePirate‌
I'm glad to see you have us all figured out ...
;-)

bugulu

Good thing I'm at work, hopefully by the time I get home, the EU servers will be up and does not have this bug.

ciannait

bugulu wrote: »

Good thing I'm at work, hopefully by the time I get home, the EU servers will be up and does not have this bug.

Nice wishful thinking, I like it. Good luck!

Ardeni

rotatorkuf wrote: »

i'm a little concerned that they haven't even done "we're looking into this"

yet they're replying to a bunch of other threads unrelated to this

I bet they will first want to see if the EU patch has the same problem. I am still somewhat hopeful that they would have fixed it for EU as the issue was found during our maintenance.

Pewpie

They just made mobs harder in VR so people would never get to craglorn in a reasonable time? Its not finished to have players in it? :P

ShintaiDK

Kiwi wrote: »

honestly i think its just an oversight in code

no need to burn the barn down just yet.

give them 24 hours to fess up

Their 24 hours is soon up for the NA players.

LonePirate

SirAndy wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

I am convinced the PTS crowd doesn't actually test the game. Rather, they spend the entire time looking for ways to exploit the game and learn the new content so they can power through it. PTS testers, by and large, are a joke.

@LonePirate‌
I'm glad to see you have us all figured out ...
;-)

Yeah, that was probably an unfair swipe on my part. Some of the PTS crew have definitely turned in some good work. Before the game was live, I saw a PTS streamer spend an afternoon fighting the same type of mobs to see how different passive skills affected combat and if the passives actually worked. That was good stuff and some quality testing. Still, there are some PTS members who are only playing to learn the game and its exploits and they give the hard-working PTS crew a bad reputation.

That being said, there are so many things wrong with this patch that I am disappointed that the PTS crew did not give a heads up to the bulk of us as to all of the negatives in this patch, such as the memory leak, the widespread nerfs to many spells, the inexplicable and massive mob combat buffs, etc. All of this came out of nowhere. The NDA ended long ago. If ZOS is unwilling to act or fix problems, the PTS crew should at least warn the other players about this stuff. That didn't happen which makes me wonder if the PTS crew is on ZOS' side or the players' side. Or did the PTS crew focus solely on Craglorn and slacked off on looking at everything else? Or did ZOS include several changes in the patch that went live and never put them on the PTS?

Syntse

Nitratas wrote: »

Rofl, the content was already insane and frustrating at some times. I can't imagine how impossible it is now. Is zenimax out of their *** minds? They're just ruining the game buy making players become frustrated. Not to mention those repair costs..

Wasn't it in the patch notes that they lowered the repair costs.

SteveCampsOut

Let me tell you a little secret about the PTS Crew... There aren't that many of them and the few that did actually show up for the Craglorn testing were hardly enough to decently test the Raids, let alone everything else on the server! I know, I was one of them. I stopped even logging in after the first week of testing there because the population was so damn low that grouping was too hard to come by unless you scheduled it in advance via the forums.

Ruddertail

Considering how long the EU patch is taking I'm thinking they're probably fixing this while at it and then hotfixing NA also.

Either that or the EU server exploded.

Garetth

Ruddertail wrote: »

Considering how long the EU patch is taking I'm thinking they're probably fixing this while at it and then hotfixing NA also.

Either that or the EU server exploded.

OMG you actually think they are fixing anything. The NA server was down for over 7 hours just so they could patch this BS to them. We are just over 7 hours now.

Ruddertail

They're hotfixed major, game-breaking issues before. In the last month or so, even. Zeni isn't that incompetent.

Lovely

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

These are too busy patching the EU server with this wonderful patch

I laughed for real. Best post in this entire thread.

AZRainman

Syntse wrote: »

Wasn't it in the patch notes that they lowered the repair costs.

True, but you die more often and take two times the damage, at least what I have been dealing with in a VR 9 zone. The old bait and switch is alive and well.

edu.journeymanub17_ESO

This need a staff comment, up to the top as there are lots of other threads being created with the same issue.

Big_O

This can't be working as intended? Instant killed last night.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2njfuc6.jpg

tinythinker

So is it mainly VR5+?

Chirru

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Now that I finally have my VR 2.5 Sorcerer in Deshaan, I can unequivocally say their HP has not been doubled nor do they hit harder than yesterday!

You are right. Some areas are the same...however, others have changed and are more difficult depending on the NPC's found in these areas. The game was unbalanced before the patch and now it has gotten worse.

Yankee

Raggok wrote: »

Yankee wrote: »

VR5 Daodreth almost 17k HP now. Can be soloed without Ulitmate if one has the desire and room for several minutes of kiting. And you do not want to get hit very many times.

Not really into it when I have to wade through one after another to get where I need to go. I can still sometimes kill 3 mob sets but it went from an okay challenge as long as I did not mess up to not fun any more.

Threads on this been up for hours and I know of no acknowledgement if it was intended or if they are looking into it.

Just...amazed.

It would take less than 5 minutes to investigate this issue and give us a response. What does that tell you?

The great possibility of either incompetence or dishonesty.

Sad either way, game had potential.

Played beta and PTS, but this is the first time I doubt this game will have any decent sized player base in the long run.

Ranrach

I'm VR3 DK leveling @ Greenshade. After the patch I'm completely stuck. Stuck because of multiple causes (like disappearance of all active quests), but mainly because of increased VR mobs. I mainly play solo, because that's the way I liked to play the entire serie (TES). I loved the challenge pre patch @ VR. I have to admit, it has become completely impossible for me to level solo after the patch.

I have a dedicated PvE tanking build, especially for late game (Craglorn and Trials). Pre patch I could absorb a lot of damage and restore from it (as a tank should be doing) and I was able to kill mobs standing together. Ofcourse I don't have the biggest DPS output, but that's ok, as long as I can take the damage and kill them in return.

Now I'm stuck. I'm unable to deal enough damage when there is a healer nearby. Ofcourse this can be explained because of my relative low DPS output. But the second problem now is, I can't even tank the two other NPC's standing next to their healer. The increase in NPC damage has become insane imo. So here I stand, trying to kill this healer, interrupting his heals so he can't heal himself or the others, but in the meantime I can't survive the other two anymore.

Again, I'm very tanky, specifically build just to be able to tank. But I can't make any progress anymore because of the VR changes. It would be very wise to roll back the VR changes. Before the patch there was a good difficulty, it was challenging, but not over the top. Now it has become ridiculous. If this won't be rolled back, I'm one of the customers they are going to lose.