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Re: Is "teabagging" [still] considered Trolling and/or Toxic?
There is no way in Cyrodiil to request the offending player stop the activity. At least on console. Not that I've found. So where does that leave the policy?Teabagging is not against the rules. Harassment is. Continuing any form of taunting after a player requests it can be interpreted as harassment and therefore can result in action by the service provider.
Re: Your Play Experience b/t Update 45 and Update 46 with Subclassing and Scribing In Base Game
Played vet dungeons and trials, PVP (poorly, but I enjoy it - cyrodil>BGs personally)
My mains were magplar (pve) and stamdk (PVP) though I did enjoy the arca and nb too
Tried subclassing - Can I do content I couldn't previously? I could do everything previously (except hm and trifectas - because I never wanted to get into the groups for them). Now: damage is higher which I didn't mind, I'm pretty casual so I like easier.
What I didn't like is that I don't really feel the point of alts anymore. Class identity feels dead - I had my DK tank, plar, NB, and Arca DDs and Necro heal, now what's the point - pick the prettiest and off you go.
I took a break because the direction of the game has been irritating me the past few patches. It bugs me to have to drastically change my build and play style every patch - I am an average player, but like to pull my weight and not just hope some S-tier DD will be in my my vet pug.
Sorry for the long rant, but I used to play this daily - be excited to log in. Now? Eh.
My mains were magplar (pve) and stamdk (PVP) though I did enjoy the arca and nb too
Tried subclassing - Can I do content I couldn't previously? I could do everything previously (except hm and trifectas - because I never wanted to get into the groups for them). Now: damage is higher which I didn't mind, I'm pretty casual so I like easier.
What I didn't like is that I don't really feel the point of alts anymore. Class identity feels dead - I had my DK tank, plar, NB, and Arca DDs and Necro heal, now what's the point - pick the prettiest and off you go.
I took a break because the direction of the game has been irritating me the past few patches. It bugs me to have to drastically change my build and play style every patch - I am an average player, but like to pull my weight and not just hope some S-tier DD will be in my my vet pug.
Sorry for the long rant, but I used to play this daily - be excited to log in. Now? Eh.
Skorro
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Re: Your Play Experience b/t Update 45 and Update 46 with Subclassing and Scribing In Base Game
spartaxoxo wrote: »I think it will probably be the case for a lot of people on forums because they are more invested users. For this question in particular you all may want to do a survey too.
The team wants just general commentary right now. We've ask this similar question in a few places just to get a rough idea from a few communities. It came up in a conversation yesterday and we wanted to just get some quick takes out there without going through the whole survey process. We do have a more formal survey in the works to include a few combat related items, but we'll notify folks when that is ready.
Well quick take TLDR:
- Subclassing power creeped the game by 20-30% so i suppose dungeons are easier
- Subclassing is much harder for new players to make choices since it is so open ended with absolutely terrible choices available next to game breaking choices in skill lines
- Scribing is a character bound nuisance that has game breaking scripts like warden class mastery
- The worst of it all is that subclassing as it stands is pushing the game towards a singularity where all builds are starting to converge to the same meta with very minor differences.
- PvP for anyone who knows what they are doing has boiled down to Stormcalling, Animal, Assassin, or Aedric spear........ This is only 4/21 skill lines primarily being used. These lines in particular have such potent passives vs other lines which offer next to nothing. For example you have lines like daedric summoning, which isn't designed to work on its own and requires damage from other lines. Or Dark magic "shield sorc" playstyle which mainly relied on Frags+ Curse(from daedric) + MagesWrath(from stormcalling) + Ward(from daedric). Why run these discombobulated skill lines when you could just pick 3 fully functional lines on their own?
EACH skill line individually needs to portray a unique playstyle and stand on its own for subclassing to work.
- Stormcalling is a good example because of how coherent it is. Right now it hosts raw responsive damage, it heals when aggressive, and it has tankiness through mobility which feeds back into the response ready to go raw damage. This coherence has been the sole essence of Stamsorc for nearly a decade now
- Daedric summoning and dark magic are bad examples. Because their main playstyles of petsorc(summoning) and shieldsorc(dark magic) require skills from other lines to work
- Dark magic(old school magsorc) needs curse, ward, and mages wrath if you want to maintain the playstyle.
- Daedric summoning needs alot of work, more overall damage based around the pets and tools to boost/use the pets. Like encase/shroud could be repurposed for pet damage boost and a tank/support group heal. DAEDRIC mines could be on DAEDRIC summoning which would pair well for kiting/peel purposes while you focus on managing pets. Clanfear could be much tankier and be used as a taunt. Scamp could have an execute morph. Bound armaments could be more of a spammable for the line.
Re: Your Play Experience b/t Update 45 and Update 46 with Subclassing and Scribing In Base Game
"Did your ability to play and/or complete certain types of game content improve after the launch of Update 46?"
No. The game has become more laggy and much more cpu hungry for no reason. Fps drops from 100- 15 in random places. Pvp went from 45-50fps around ballgroups to 8-12fps around ballgroups....
I have gone trough so many tests from your so called support its mad. Its clearly not my pc. Its something you made worse.
Tried multiple subclass builds. But stuff works better when just clean class.
No. The game has become more laggy and much more cpu hungry for no reason. Fps drops from 100- 15 in random places. Pvp went from 45-50fps around ballgroups to 8-12fps around ballgroups....
I have gone trough so many tests from your so called support its mad. Its clearly not my pc. Its something you made worse.
Tried multiple subclass builds. But stuff works better when just clean class.
Re: More on the Microsoft lay offs, it's grim.
It's an incredible pity that Zenimax didn't/couldnt go private, instead of being acquired by Microsoft.
Zenimax was a private company when Microsoft bought them. They tried to sell to EA first, but that deal fell through. Zeni was shopping for a buyer.
Porting each other through dungeons, optional prompt that you can accept or decline?
So, since it's been a controversial issue before, why not make it optional to accept a teleport to the next boss battle? That way beginners can continue looting or whatever they had to stop for! Now, with that said, a timer should begin (that would teleport the player there anyways after depleting), that way afk players, or trolls cannot hold the team up for logner than say, 30 seconds? Yet, players can try to repair, feed, or empty some of their full inventory! That way new players are not missing quest objectives or their loot, and the Nascar drivers can still maintain an efficient pace! Compromising would be better than self-absorbed extremities and radical ideaism. No one should be banned for causing a player to miss their quest objective and potentially loot, and it should remain in the unfair fashion that it currently does. It shocked me to read players using little nicknames like "que-culture" to justify bad etiquette and selfish, childish behavior. Since when did it become OK for the new players who lack in friends and/ or guilds to be held accountable for forming groups if they ACTUALLY enjoy the game and it's lore, or simply want to finish their quests!? When did it become OK for veteran players who can EASILY form groups to expect to race through and ignore any cries for help or requests to briefly pause? Madness. A simple solution could be reached though, I'm sure. Just a thought and opinion. I promise, I mean no offense, but only to make light of the situation in jest and good spirit. 
Love and Love to allllll!
Love and Love to allllll!Re: PTS Update 47 - Feedback Thread for Classes & Abilities Changes
@Tannus15 I tried some pure Sorc parses yesterday in preparation for a similar post, but you beat me to it Since the draft I saved was nearly finished I'm going to post it anyways, but it's now basically just a copy of yours. Oh well - I suppose the fact that the class could use something more is worth repeating.
Dark Magic could really use a bigger buff
I figured I'd throw together a pure pet Sorcerer on the PTS to actually test the new changes myself and ended up doing between 129K and 134K DPS with slightly different skill setups:
Just changing Dark Magic to Aedric Spear - without actively using any Aedric Spear abilities - increased my DPS to 143K though. I did slot Everlasting Sweep instead of Flawless Dawnbreaker on the front bar for the passives, but the rest of the skills were exactly the same as I used for the aforementioned 131K DPS parse with Bound Armaments.
Possible Dark Magic buff
Since Direct Damage makes up a large part of a standard Sorcerer's DPS, I still think adding a 6% Direct Damage buff to Exploitation would be nice. More Critical Chance or something could be nice too though since there aren't a lot of skill lines that grant Crit Chance (just Assassination I think?).
The extra Max Stamina or Magicka buff that Blood Magic gives on the PTS could then be shuffled into Daedric Summoning again, since that skill line is far from overpowered at the moment.
Minor complaint about the current Blood Magic buff
In one of the parses above with Crystal Fragments, the skill procced for the first time after around 18 seconds into the parse so that's when I first cast it and got the Max Stamina buff. I had bad luck in that parse, but still... I really wish the current buff didn't depend on casting a Dark Magic skill in the first place (especially since you also have to cast it at full Health).
Since the draft I saved was nearly finished I'm going to post it anyways, but it's now basically just a copy of yours. Oh well - I suppose the fact that the class could use something more is worth repeating.Dark Magic could really use a bigger buff
I figured I'd throw together a pure pet Sorcerer on the PTS to actually test the new changes myself and ended up doing between 129K and 134K DPS with slightly different skill setups:
134K DPS with Bound Armaments and Crystal Weapon
131K DPS with Bound Armaments (I'm really bad at weaving with channeled skills such as Rapid Strikes though)
129K DPS with Bound Armaments and Crystal Fragments
129K DPS with Crystal Fragments
131K DPS with Bound Armaments (I'm really bad at weaving with channeled skills such as Rapid Strikes though)
129K DPS with Bound Armaments and Crystal Fragments
129K DPS with Crystal Fragments
Just changing Dark Magic to Aedric Spear - without actively using any Aedric Spear abilities - increased my DPS to 143K though. I did slot Everlasting Sweep instead of Flawless Dawnbreaker on the front bar for the passives, but the rest of the skills were exactly the same as I used for the aforementioned 131K DPS parse with Bound Armaments.
Possible Dark Magic buff
Since Direct Damage makes up a large part of a standard Sorcerer's DPS, I still think adding a 6% Direct Damage buff to Exploitation would be nice. More Critical Chance or something could be nice too though since there aren't a lot of skill lines that grant Crit Chance (just Assassination I think?).
The extra Max Stamina or Magicka buff that Blood Magic gives on the PTS could then be shuffled into Daedric Summoning again, since that skill line is far from overpowered at the moment.
Minor complaint about the current Blood Magic buff
In one of the parses above with Crystal Fragments, the skill procced for the first time after around 18 seconds into the parse so that's when I first cast it and got the Max Stamina buff. I had bad luck in that parse, but still... I really wish the current buff didn't depend on casting a Dark Magic skill in the first place (especially since you also have to cast it at full Health).
BasP
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Re: PTS Update 47 - Feedback Thread for Classes & Abilities Changes
tomofhyrule wrote: »madmufffin wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »
The big problem is that I don't see how this can be fixed. Either sorc should have all their dps passives shoved into one skill line so they can compete with other classes, or arcanist, necro and probably nightblade need their skills and passives dispersered across the class skill lines.
Essentially the design philophosy for the DLC classes is the exact opposite of what they are now suggesting the direction of balance with subclassing should be.
Bingo, the some classes were designed to be clear and easy to learn with a clear damage, tank, heals line. Now they would have to be rebalanced such that each line offers the trinity on its own to convey a playstyle. Otherwise there is nothing stopping us from slotting 3x highly efficient damage lines like Animal, Assassin, Aedric spear
As for the more original base classes they need to be altered to have stand alone skill lines that can operate on their own. Stormcalling as a good example having raw responsive damage, healing while aggressive, and tankiness from mobility which pairs well with the responsive damage. Dark magic is the bad example, where it gets damage from frags, but the general playstyle of a frags magsorc normally needs mages wrath, curse, and ward to function. Daedric summoning also falls flat on damage, The damage morphs of pets could be reworked to pair up better or if ward/curse got traded with encase/mines, A skill like encase on petsorc could be used as a temporary pet buff or pet attack skill.
I mean it feels like a uniquely sorc issue at this point tbh. Nightblade and Dragonknight are both pretty much segmented between DPS/Tank/Heal(Utility) and Templar has a very obvious heal line with two strong DPS lines (one of which is kinda tank oriented). Sorc is just a jumble of junk spread across 3 lines that is usable but worse than other classes in every facet.
Uhh... what?
Ardent Flame: DPS ultimate, 3 DPS skills, 1 tank CC that can morph into a DPS gap closer, and 1 DPS skill that morphs into a heal. 3 DPS passives and 1 passive that increases damage and sustain.
Draconic Power: DPS ultimate, 2 tank skills, 1 CC that has a damage and a tank morph, 1 self heal, 1 DPS skill. 3 tank passives and then 1 generic health recovery passive
Earthen Heart: Tank ultimate, 1 DPS skill that has a healing morph, 1 healing skill that has a DPS morph, 1 CC, and 2 group buffs. 2 sustain passives, 1 group buff passive, 1 duration extender passive that affects all three roles.
All of the basegame Classes have necessary skills spread across all three lines. Even if a line has a few things that seem like "this is the DPS line with some other stuff mixed in" like Ardent Flame, that still isn't as clear-cut as something like Herald of the Tome. A DK of any role would have to give up skills they'd use to Subclass. The only basegame Class lines that are obviously designed for one role and one role only are NB's Assassination and Templar's Restoring Light (and you can even make an argument against Restoring Light since Ritual has a DPS morph and there are some self-only buffs in there).
Also does seem interesting that the "tank" line for DK (you know, the one with the DPS ultimate) is outclassed in every way by other tank lines from other Classes, so the tank meta pretty much says "you need DK's healing line (assuming we can call it a healing line)"
Ardent Flame is all relevant dps skills and passives to the class aside from talons and eruption with only one non-dps skill and the strongest dps ult in the game. Draconic power is all tank skills and passives aside from the ult and one morph of talons. Earthen heart is almost entirely a utility/healing line aside from one morph of cloud and the ult. It's quite segmented, especially by base class standards. Just because the DK tank and utility lines aren't objectively good doesn't change the fact they pretty neatly fit into their niches. Nightblade is pretty perfectly seperated into 3 lines as well, Templar is a bit janky but still functional with one extremely well defined role line, and Sorc is a complete disaster.