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Re: The Silence On Antiquity Leads Is Defeaning!
I’m something like a Antiquities Hunter, and this system is pretty much the main thing I enjoy about the game. I started playing ESO in mid-2024 and took one long break (about 8 months) during which I didn’t play at all. Right now, my codex its 3/3 for all things, and I have good idea how hard it was to do that.
In this system, Lead drops are highly random; some things can be done "easily" at 3/3, while for others the grind is insanely long, even if the given Lead drops from harder content.
For example, Lead for furnishing that drops from dragons in North Elsweyr. I had to kill around a hundred dragons for the second codex entry, and I needed about the same number for the third (I don’t remember the exact numbers—it’s been a while—but I know it was a real pain grind). Dragons aren’t that easy to farm; they have a ton of HP, and not many people go there anymore, so you’re often on your own, etc.
Leads for Apocryphal Well—I opened more than 500 Treasure Maps and still didn’t get 3/3 codex. It wasn’t until Pan Tamriel event (which gave better chances of dropping Leads from Treasure Maps) that I managed to get 3/3. Without it, who knows if I would’ve ever put together a 3/3. It’s pure pain when you consider that you’re practically at the mercy of the market because you can’t really farm the exact Treasure Maps you need (not counting IA). In my opinion, Apocryphal Well Leads is one of the worst things in the whole Antiquities.
Generally speaking, the leads from Treasure Maps need to be reworked somehow because they’re really not good right now.
But aside from a few exceptions, I really like this, and it’s something I really enjoy in ESO. I also have to say that in the last Solstice zone, gring wasn’t that difficult, and I think Leads drop better (I don’t know if it’s just me or if the devs manage better Leads drop rate), and gring for the Solstice Antiquities 3/3 codex wasn’t too much of a pain, not counting the ones from Treasure Maps. I spent around 15 million gold on Leads from Treasure Map for Solstice (I was buying maps for around 20-30k each).
So I hope the devs have Antiquities in mind and that we’ll see some nice changes in the future (especially when it comes to Treasure Maps).
In this system, Lead drops are highly random; some things can be done "easily" at 3/3, while for others the grind is insanely long, even if the given Lead drops from harder content.
For example, Lead for furnishing that drops from dragons in North Elsweyr. I had to kill around a hundred dragons for the second codex entry, and I needed about the same number for the third (I don’t remember the exact numbers—it’s been a while—but I know it was a real pain grind). Dragons aren’t that easy to farm; they have a ton of HP, and not many people go there anymore, so you’re often on your own, etc.
Leads for Apocryphal Well—I opened more than 500 Treasure Maps and still didn’t get 3/3 codex. It wasn’t until Pan Tamriel event (which gave better chances of dropping Leads from Treasure Maps) that I managed to get 3/3. Without it, who knows if I would’ve ever put together a 3/3. It’s pure pain when you consider that you’re practically at the mercy of the market because you can’t really farm the exact Treasure Maps you need (not counting IA). In my opinion, Apocryphal Well Leads is one of the worst things in the whole Antiquities.
Generally speaking, the leads from Treasure Maps need to be reworked somehow because they’re really not good right now.
But aside from a few exceptions, I really like this, and it’s something I really enjoy in ESO. I also have to say that in the last Solstice zone, gring wasn’t that difficult, and I think Leads drop better (I don’t know if it’s just me or if the devs manage better Leads drop rate), and gring for the Solstice Antiquities 3/3 codex wasn’t too much of a pain, not counting the ones from Treasure Maps. I spent around 15 million gold on Leads from Treasure Map for Solstice (I was buying maps for around 20-30k each).
So I hope the devs have Antiquities in mind and that we’ll see some nice changes in the future (especially when it comes to Treasure Maps).
Thoriorz
7
Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
PS. If it was my call - I'd remove Grey Host completely and make access to Vengeance for ESO+ only. And rework the pvp sets as vanity items with improved looks.
Then we are lucky it isn't your call, because a lot of players (and that includes players with ESO+) would leave the game entirely if they did that.
Re: Lack of sanitary items
In the Late Middle Ages, chair-like constructions with a chamber pot underneath did exist. So I don't see why something like that should not exist in ESO. Let alone lots of the things we see in game are not actually medieval.
Syldras
8
Re: Malevolent Promise… Don’t think I didn’t notice
This was such a bizarre and bogus change. Necros simply cannot ever have nice things it seems.
Even the pre-emptive neutering of the other class passives was unnecessary. As Necro is still bottom-barrel in PTS parses in PvE.
Even the pre-emptive neutering of the other class passives was unnecessary. As Necro is still bottom-barrel in PTS parses in PvE.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Vengeance Campaign
And I want a trillion dollars and a pony.I want Gray Host to have as good of a performance as Vengeance
I like both the gameplay and performance of Vengeance and look forward to it going live.
Some of the criticisms of its gameplay are valid, like how large scale can devolve into a zergy numbers count (due to stacked healing far outpacing damage), or how small scale feels limited when every sweaty player is on pretty much the same dot NB spec.
I would like to see a buff to large scale AoE damage, or a nerf to stacked healing. I don't want NB nerfed, I want other classes buffed and to stand out with unique mechanics like NB.
xylena
5
Re: WHY Force Vengeance!!!
MincMincMinc wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »Is this test even incentivized? I mean pcna was nearly pop locked during primetime afterwork hours. From 7pm EST to 11pm EST it was 3bar AD+DC and locked EP. Which means it was at 700-900 players atleast consistently. This is either alarming or kind of a tell tale that zos shouldn't have kicked pvp to the curb a long time ago. Numbers wise if it was consistently around 800 that means over the night there may have been double that entering and leaving. Combine that with everyday Greyhost numbers and we are probably up near 2-3k players interested in pvp out of the 8k average daily players.
Just to be clear I am not saying vengeance should dropship how it is currently designed. I would much rather zos replace the loadout bonuses and perks with a vengeance item set stickerbook of redesigned sets. Easy enough to start with the nonproc stat gear. At most maybe allow the more performative proc-stat sets with longer term checks like clever alchemist or 7th legion. Proc condition sets which have longterm on/offs instead of checks that trigger every possible tick. These new sets could be unlocked someway or purchaseable with AP. Then you could also use AP to gold out the stickerbook or make trait changes on the fly.
Vengeance is also missing morphs especially for sustain tools that allow us to use stam weapons. There is simply too much automatic regen which should otherwise be sustain through more active tools like darkdeal or dark converg. Morphs are a slippery slope though where zos could fall into the trap of every morph suddenly starts giving bonus major/minor buffs where instead a more performative approach would be modifying the skills itself. For example streak stuns at the final location, Ball of lightning stuns at the starting location. No random bonus buff that inflates the server and two distinct playstyles are now made.
This is actually a really good take. Thank you for noticing also that even though other factions were not pop locked it was 100's more players than GH would have had. It is encouraging to see people interested in PvP. Good takes!
If only they just went and flushed it out more. There still isn't enough normal build elements to allow people to tailor their playstyle and focus on what they like to do. Like I dont think stamsorc is viable in here, but magsorc is very strong buildwise and I am a 12 year stamsorc pvp player.
Some of the balance dynamics are also off. Like we have a high TTk which would be fine if the regen wasnt so high and instead people had to use sustain tools like darkdeal. With a high TTK and high regen when outnumbered it requires alot of commitment to kill one player who can easily just spam only heals which counter your single line of damage. If that same player had to take breaks in healing to keep their sustain going it would be much more feasible to trip them up so they cant heal.
All of the game wasnt fleshed out at release in 2014 also. I think this game mode gives a lot of runway to growth. Same as you although not sorc I am hopeful for more things to come add and change as we have seen with Cyrodiil since the beginning. A lot of these other "PvP' folks just need to buckle up for a few days and we can all go back to proccing our rallying cry (myself included) in no time.
Yeah we see these complaints about wanting all their gear back, yet 90% of builds on live are the same. So does the build really matter at the end of the day? If everyone wears rallying cry, at that point why not just have zos bump up our crit resist by that amount because its obviously needed and avoid the procs lagging the server?
The problem with not having build elements is we cant self regulate for bad meta designs. Like on live zos has WAY too much crit chance and crit damage sources. So everyone compensates with rallying cry. We cant do this in current vengeance.
Re: Malevolent Promise… Don’t think I didn’t notice
What I dont understand is this…
Why they didn’t just take the risk week 1 and if some crazy synergy were to happen, then they would have weeks to then fine tune it?
“Monsters Only” and “While Battle Spirit is Active” are both end-all options and should only be used in the most serious of context, not casually thrown around on passives for classes known to be struggling.
To continue on this, separating abilities and gear between PvP and PvE, rather than adjusting stats to make builds viable in both, just adds to the confusion new players have with why they are getting blown up in PvP, or unable to get into a group in PvE.
It’s incredibly unhealthy for the game, and I said it back when Maw of Lorkhaj brought Aegis and Slayer and instead of hearing me, we got Halls of Fabrication— a trial with zero incentive for PvP players to enter… and again when Bahsei came out with Monster’s Only, such restrictions truly have no place in ESO.
Why they didn’t just take the risk week 1 and if some crazy synergy were to happen, then they would have weeks to then fine tune it?
“Monsters Only” and “While Battle Spirit is Active” are both end-all options and should only be used in the most serious of context, not casually thrown around on passives for classes known to be struggling.
To continue on this, separating abilities and gear between PvP and PvE, rather than adjusting stats to make builds viable in both, just adds to the confusion new players have with why they are getting blown up in PvP, or unable to get into a group in PvE.
It’s incredibly unhealthy for the game, and I said it back when Maw of Lorkhaj brought Aegis and Slayer and instead of hearing me, we got Halls of Fabrication— a trial with zero incentive for PvP players to enter… and again when Bahsei came out with Monster’s Only, such restrictions truly have no place in ESO.
Radiate77
10
Re: Lack of sanitary items
There are buckets, which do double duty for shower and chamber pot. Just don't use the same one.
ghastley
8
Please change the "weather" in vengeance
I find it very irritating and hard on the eyes with all these pink/red hues. Also the rain, what is their blood?
Re: Inventory is Excessive Micro-Management
I hate to say it, but it's tedious by design. Zenimax (as in the company, not ZOS proper) did the same thing with Fallout 76. Create problems and sell the solutions.
Inventory is purposefully wretched and awful to compel you to get ESO+, at which point it becomes exceedingly friendly and nice. It's all on purpose. To get you to buy the solution to the problem that ZOS made to sell you the solution. It's on purpose, baby.
You're right. It sucks to not be a subscriber. It's meant to suck. Nothing for it.
Personally, the only reason I pay an annual subscription fee is for the unlimited crafting bag and extra bank spaces. If they made inventory not suck without the subscription, I would literally unsubscribe. Most of us would. The value proposition for subscribing has been stripped down to the crafting bag over the years, and ZOS knows it. They ain't fixing anything because, for them, it's not broken.
Inventory is purposefully wretched and awful to compel you to get ESO+, at which point it becomes exceedingly friendly and nice. It's all on purpose. To get you to buy the solution to the problem that ZOS made to sell you the solution. It's on purpose, baby.
You're right. It sucks to not be a subscriber. It's meant to suck. Nothing for it.
Personally, the only reason I pay an annual subscription fee is for the unlimited crafting bag and extra bank spaces. If they made inventory not suck without the subscription, I would literally unsubscribe. Most of us would. The value proposition for subscribing has been stripped down to the crafting bag over the years, and ZOS knows it. They ain't fixing anything because, for them, it's not broken.
