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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Housing Furnishing
First, the patch notes say that there are 46 new furnishing plans, but I detect that there are actually 47 new furnishing plans in the itemization data. So either the patch notes are off by one, or there is a plan that shouldn't be there. The 47 new plans that I see are:
On the topic of new plans, why are the Summerset ones named "High Elf" instead of "Alinor"? For existing plans, "High Elf" had referred to the base-game high-elf style, while "Alinor" had referred to the "newer" high-elf style found in Summerset. These new plans are of the newer style and are sourced from Summerset dailies, so for consistency, they should be named "Alinor", not "High Elf".
On the topic of new plans, why are the Summerset ones named "High Elf" instead of "Alinor"? For existing plans, "High Elf" had referred to the base-game high-elf style, while "Alinor" had referred to the "newer" high-elf style found in Summerset. These new plans are of the newer style and are sourced from Summerset dailies, so for consistency, they should be named "Alinor", not "High Elf".
Re: WHY Force Vengeance!!!
Even as someone who likes Vengeance, I have no interest in another test.
xylena
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
I also would like to chime in to agree that class masteries are currently not good enough to stack up to subclassing and need more group utility to support more than just damage dealing roles, as well as give the option for Tanks and Support to not pick subclassing.
ZoS, y'all do seem to have a problem with putting most of the group utility stuff behind sets, then to top it off only letting supports really flourish with subclassing is a grave error.
Like the others said, all classes need more group utility, don't just lock pure classes behind the DPS role. People are not going to pick pure classes if they can have better group utility with subclassing, and in their current state, they don't bring that value to the table.
Not to mention, a DPS role should also bring group utility to the table, not just selfish damage ceilings. Why do you think banner was/is so popular?
ZoS, y'all do seem to have a problem with putting most of the group utility stuff behind sets, then to top it off only letting supports really flourish with subclassing is a grave error.
Like the others said, all classes need more group utility, don't just lock pure classes behind the DPS role. People are not going to pick pure classes if they can have better group utility with subclassing, and in their current state, they don't bring that value to the table.
Not to mention, a DPS role should also bring group utility to the table, not just selfish damage ceilings. Why do you think banner was/is so popular?
Faltasë
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Re: Werewolf Update From The Combat Refresh Team
Oof. The glows are not my favorite. They look confusing and kinda make no sense for a werewolf.
“I’m a big scary thing that can pounce out of the shadows and get you - but hold up - let me just glow like goon from the 1990s Batman and Robin.”
This was a surprise I think no one asked for ):
If we can get rid of the glow tattoos - and shrink the gremlin ears - I’d be happier. Those ears… yeesh.
Yeah these glowing effects automatically make using the werewolf a no go for me. These are so ugly.
Faltasë
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Re: Challenge System is Impacting Standard Game Play
I can tolerate the system but it is way too specific. I thought the previous system of daily login and easy daily and weekly better. Those usually took up 3-5 minutes of my time. Now I feel in the beginning of the week I am doing so much busywork to get it over with that I am burned out for the rest of the week
I see all these posts "wow, the game feels so alive again'. But is it? Everyone funnels to the same 8 spots, puts a 5 minute timer on their phone, watch some YouTube or scroll a bit, click once, kill world boss. Reset timer...repeat 5 or more times. Very boring compared to what we had before.
Those challenges should be way way less specific. They got it right with golden pursuit with "complete 5 dungeons' or kill 20 world bosses. The way it is now is boring and I am more waiting than playing the game.
Then there are the 'kill 1000+ of XXX' that last a month. I know you have a whole season, but ESO has been ramming into peoples head to complete everything as fast as possible. So, the other day I even changed my built to so I could steal as many easy crab kills from a distance from other players to get it done more quickly while the other part was farmed in a random +boss group while I was cooking. And yesterday I did the kill 100 bosses in Blessed Crucible at the part where there spawn 4 werewolf bosses, kill 3, jump in lava to die and repeat a few times to get that out of the way. And now I am burned out for the rest of the week and went back to Starfield.
And all of this is grinding is just to unlock the pages that have endeavors and trade bars on them. I don't get it. People used to complain that they were burned out with event. Now it feels like the game is constant having 20 events and they love it.
I see all these posts "wow, the game feels so alive again'. But is it? Everyone funnels to the same 8 spots, puts a 5 minute timer on their phone, watch some YouTube or scroll a bit, click once, kill world boss. Reset timer...repeat 5 or more times. Very boring compared to what we had before.
Those challenges should be way way less specific. They got it right with golden pursuit with "complete 5 dungeons' or kill 20 world bosses. The way it is now is boring and I am more waiting than playing the game.
Then there are the 'kill 1000+ of XXX' that last a month. I know you have a whole season, but ESO has been ramming into peoples head to complete everything as fast as possible. So, the other day I even changed my built to so I could steal as many easy crab kills from a distance from other players to get it done more quickly while the other part was farmed in a random +boss group while I was cooking. And yesterday I did the kill 100 bosses in Blessed Crucible at the part where there spawn 4 werewolf bosses, kill 3, jump in lava to die and repeat a few times to get that out of the way. And now I am burned out for the rest of the week and went back to Starfield.
And all of this is grinding is just to unlock the pages that have endeavors and trade bars on them. I don't get it. People used to complain that they were burned out with event. Now it feels like the game is constant having 20 events and they love it.
Re: Challenge System is Impacting Standard Game Play
As has been mentioned though, if you’re turning the game into a job, it’s gonna feel like a job. So don’t.
Remember: the free track of Tomes has 20k points worth of stuff to earn. That’s it. Any points you earn over 20k are unnecessary and will just get thrown out at the end of the season. For Premium, you have a few more things to buy, but then you also don’t lose the Tome and can keep buying things from it later.
I did a quick off-the-cuff calculation based on last week having 6500 Points, and that was after the season was live about 10 days. At 6500 points in 10 days, that means I’ll have around 58,500 points at the end. That’s over 30k points that are going straight into the trash.
For anyone who plays regularly, you will throw away more Points than you can possibly use. So… why do you need to maximize your gains or get it as fast as possible? Are you not throwing things away fast enough?
Remember: the free track of Tomes has 20k points worth of stuff to earn. That’s it. Any points you earn over 20k are unnecessary and will just get thrown out at the end of the season. For Premium, you have a few more things to buy, but then you also don’t lose the Tome and can keep buying things from it later.
I did a quick off-the-cuff calculation based on last week having 6500 Points, and that was after the season was live about 10 days. At 6500 points in 10 days, that means I’ll have around 58,500 points at the end. That’s over 30k points that are going straight into the trash.
For anyone who plays regularly, you will throw away more Points than you can possibly use. So… why do you need to maximize your gains or get it as fast as possible? Are you not throwing things away fast enough?
The Game Design of BG's is Embarrassing
Some of the design decisions behind BGs are awful and I cannot believe they haven't been fixed yet.
Item 1 - Not Leaving The Spawn
Item 2 - Entering the Map by falling off a Platform
Genuinely embarrassing game design.
Item 1 - Not Leaving The Spawn
- Playing deathmatch? Have fun waiting around for more than half the match while 1 of the enemy players sits on the spawn platform for 3+ minutes. This has to be changed as it's such a waste of time.
Item 2 - Entering the Map by falling off a Platform
- Is your team behind in a deathmatch? Well get ****ed, now you all have to be CC'd for 1.5 seconds when re-entering the fight because, after respawning, you have to enter the map by falling off a platform. And while falling, the enemies can hit you with abilities, but you can't do anything about it.
Genuinely embarrassing game design.
Mashille
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Re: Vengeance ruleset for Dungeons/Etc.
spartaxoxo wrote: »ESO_player123 wrote: »I won't comment on the PvP side of things since I do not PvP, but let's not pretend that this thread is anything other than a "we might suffer so they should too" type of thread.
As was mentioned in one of the posts above, this is a direct response to the recent Vengeance thread and to the concern that Scenario #2 is the future of PvP.
Bingo. It's a non-starter anyway because PvE does not have anywhere close to the performance issues of Cyrodiil. And PvP players have been making it clear for years that fixing performance should be their top priority. They tried for years to do just that so it's not surprising that their tests revealed that certain solutions simply aren't feasible.
Suffer? I’d like the option to have access to a better performing game in PvE and ZOS has the answer.
SneaK
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Re: Vengeance ruleset for Dungeons/Etc.
Lag and gear are completely separate. The tests in Cyrodiil are all about server performance not player performance. There is some lag in trials and other similar content and it would be nice if that could be fixed. If you can't do the content now though you probably wouldn't be able to do it with a template.
Nothing requires 100k DPS to finish. If all DPS in the group can average 30K DPS and the group understands the mechanics you can make it through all content. You aren't going to make the leader boards but you can do the content.
Vengeance doesn't mean all of a sudden you are going to be competitive in PvP even if you have the same gear. Part of the problem with PvP is all the calculations that have to be made with cross heals, multiple AOE and all kinds of other stuff. Trials are limited to 12 players while PvP can have much more than that. PvP has many more calculations to make.
PvE could probably (I'm guessing) be helped with less effects going off?
PvE is nowhere near as laggy and unstable as PvP probably more than 90% of the time. Would be nice to have better server performance in trials and dungeons. Still either way even if ZoS did put you in a template build it won't mean much towards completion. I have a build where players are showing 110K DPS on a dummy and using that same build I'm lucky to push 60K. Just having the template won't mean much if your rotation isn't on point.
And for the most part the PvP crowd wants to be able to use all their available builds and sets. They want more diversity than what Vengeance provides.
All I’m asking for is for the dev team to bring Vengeance to PvE, since it’s saved Cyrodiil from lag.
Being in an even playing field with endgame PvErs is just a bonus.
SneaK
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Re: Vengeance ruleset for Dungeons/Etc.
That’s off topic, this is about lag and how vengeance would fix lag in PvE just like it will in Cyrodiil. I remember years ago we tried Maw but the final boss was too laggy to finish. Vengeance pve would fix that.
In turn, many more players could experience these parts of the game.
Yes sir, my apologies.
Perhaps when Orsinium crashed every time we traveled there, a Vengeance answer could have worked splendid.
