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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
New Werewolf is good, I Like it. BUT I do have some concerns.
The model is pretty neat, kinda goofy looking, But it has charm. Wish the arms were a bit bigger, so they don't look like spikey pool noodles.
I know we need a way to discern in PvP which morph of the wolf I am fighting, But I would like to be able to toggle the tattoos. Its already pretty clear that I am fighting a pack leader because He has pet wolves helping and when I am fighting a berserker because he has no pets and Im bleeding alot. Red eyes must stay on berserker though. love glowy red eyes.
Balance wise, I am Quite concerned. NOTE This is through a PvP lens.
Werewolf has ZERO sustain issues. Absolutely none. You dont need to even bother building for sustain AT ALL. This is a sharp contrast from the update 49 werewolf where a huge part of the challenge is resource management. You have to actively build around and think about sustain on werewolf, where as now, with the refresh, Its not even a build consideration. In a PvP encounter, You are rarely, if ever going to stamina check a werewolf, and be able to pressure it out of resources, to a point of failure in order to secure a kill.
This is a massive problem for balance, as this allows werewolf players to just spam skills to no end, removing the need to plan out a skill rotation and pace the skills in order to conserve resources. You can just block cast every skill, apart from the fear, for easy damage mitigation, And if you somehow get low on stamina, Just spam the heal until your stamina is back to full.
Sustain is one of the 3 core pillars that make up a successful build in a PvP environment. It is also the most important. overly inflating sustain to a point where its not even a consideration on a build, strongly influences the other 2 core pillars, damage and survivability. With no worry of sustain, You can constantly keep a steady damage output rolling, And for survivability, well you can block cast and heal with no worry of that ever falling off.
and in the rare situation "Oh I am out of magic for my main heal? Ok ill just roll dodge spam until I get more magic back or my potion is ready."
Did you guys know that the dodge fatigue cap is 20? I did not know there was a dodge fatigue cap of 20. I have now learned that there is a Dodge fatigue cap of 20, and from there dodge does not increase in cost anymore.
Not needing to consider sustain on a werewolf, as I said, inadvertently INFLATES damage output, and survivability.
Survivability on werewolf is easy too. Your primary Spammable is a Huge heal, allowing you to just continually press your offense, while staying safe. You also have access to bloodclaws, which if you hit more than 3 enemies with it, Might as well grant you immortality. The big magic heal on werewolf restores missing stamina alongside its heal, allowing you to keep up your already overly sustainable offense.
You have the ability constantly hold block and block cast your offensive skills for free mitigation and, in rougher scenarios, spam roll dodge with almost no penalty. The only weakness a werewolf has is properly lined up burst combo, which they can still just block anyways. Pressure and DOT builds don't even phase werewolf because of the passive healing that werewolf has, and again, you are not stamina checking a werewolf, because sustain is too plentiful. If sustain was still a bit tricky on werewolf, The whole of werewolf as it sits on the PTS, would be in a Good spot. But its too easy to sustain on werewolf.
My suggestion - All skills on werewolf, apart form the magic heal, gain ramping cost for around 10 seconds. keep the costs as they are with the PTS werewolf, relatively low, or even lower and make the ramping cost 33% like with roll dodge and Streak, PER INDIVIDUAL skill, exclude Claw fury, since that's a channel. Make the werewolf heavy attack remove all stacks of ramping cost, while still restoring the extra stamina, and then BOOM! now you have a more calculated skill rotation with less incentive to spam skills for maximum effect! You could also tack onto that heavy attack weapon and spell damage per fatigue stack removed, to give an ever bigger burst to your damage, because werewolf really does not have any surprise damage for burst, and catching out lacking opponents.
This would also make the rampage mode of werewolf More impactful as well, as you can keep the no cost for skills with that, and it would make the rampage mode much more rewarding to build up to.
And last concern is with the Sniffer mode of werewolf. We cant have sneaky werewolfs, so we get a stealth detect on crouch which makes sense for a werewolf having the ability to sniff out invisible opponents, HOWEVER, Again, Balance. A detect potion every 3 seconds is broken.
Sentry, the set has a 30 second cooldown to allow for some window of counterplay, and a detect potion goes on cooldown for roughly the same amount of time( 45 seconds -11 or so seconds).
Stealth detection is THE hard counter for stealthy playstyles. That's also why there is a cooldown.
For those 10 or so seconds when stealth detection is active, its becomes a game of hide and seek plus ice tag. The stealthy boi is completely at the mercy of the stealth detector, until that timer runs out.
With werewolf, there is NO down time. There is a stamina cost for activating the sniffer mode, but as we discussed, werewolf has no sustain issues, so you can spam this to take away ANY leverage that a stealthy boi might have. You also have the gapclose on werewolf which allows you to jump directly on the stealthy boi when you see him.
Stealth is some builds primary form of damage mitigation. that's why there is a cooldown on the sentry set and with detection potions because stealth detection is a FULL counter to a stealth build. Giving a stealth build those 30 seconds of breathing room gives stealth builds a chance to regain leverage, and re assess a fight before making the decision of weather to either re-engage or dis-engage, based off of the scenario. This leads to the fun fights of hide and seek and freeze tag that make pvp encounters exciting.
Werewolf just does away with this completely. Its a one sided encounter where every time the werewolf wins. That is bad for balance and just not fun.
Solution Add a cooldown of around 30 seconds to the stealth detection portion of the sniffer mode, or heavily reduce the radius of detection.
The model is pretty neat, kinda goofy looking, But it has charm. Wish the arms were a bit bigger, so they don't look like spikey pool noodles.
I know we need a way to discern in PvP which morph of the wolf I am fighting, But I would like to be able to toggle the tattoos. Its already pretty clear that I am fighting a pack leader because He has pet wolves helping and when I am fighting a berserker because he has no pets and Im bleeding alot. Red eyes must stay on berserker though. love glowy red eyes.
Balance wise, I am Quite concerned. NOTE This is through a PvP lens.
Werewolf has ZERO sustain issues. Absolutely none. You dont need to even bother building for sustain AT ALL. This is a sharp contrast from the update 49 werewolf where a huge part of the challenge is resource management. You have to actively build around and think about sustain on werewolf, where as now, with the refresh, Its not even a build consideration. In a PvP encounter, You are rarely, if ever going to stamina check a werewolf, and be able to pressure it out of resources, to a point of failure in order to secure a kill.
This is a massive problem for balance, as this allows werewolf players to just spam skills to no end, removing the need to plan out a skill rotation and pace the skills in order to conserve resources. You can just block cast every skill, apart from the fear, for easy damage mitigation, And if you somehow get low on stamina, Just spam the heal until your stamina is back to full.
Sustain is one of the 3 core pillars that make up a successful build in a PvP environment. It is also the most important. overly inflating sustain to a point where its not even a consideration on a build, strongly influences the other 2 core pillars, damage and survivability. With no worry of sustain, You can constantly keep a steady damage output rolling, And for survivability, well you can block cast and heal with no worry of that ever falling off.
and in the rare situation "Oh I am out of magic for my main heal? Ok ill just roll dodge spam until I get more magic back or my potion is ready."
Did you guys know that the dodge fatigue cap is 20? I did not know there was a dodge fatigue cap of 20. I have now learned that there is a Dodge fatigue cap of 20, and from there dodge does not increase in cost anymore.
Not needing to consider sustain on a werewolf, as I said, inadvertently INFLATES damage output, and survivability.
Survivability on werewolf is easy too. Your primary Spammable is a Huge heal, allowing you to just continually press your offense, while staying safe. You also have access to bloodclaws, which if you hit more than 3 enemies with it, Might as well grant you immortality. The big magic heal on werewolf restores missing stamina alongside its heal, allowing you to keep up your already overly sustainable offense.
You have the ability constantly hold block and block cast your offensive skills for free mitigation and, in rougher scenarios, spam roll dodge with almost no penalty. The only weakness a werewolf has is properly lined up burst combo, which they can still just block anyways. Pressure and DOT builds don't even phase werewolf because of the passive healing that werewolf has, and again, you are not stamina checking a werewolf, because sustain is too plentiful. If sustain was still a bit tricky on werewolf, The whole of werewolf as it sits on the PTS, would be in a Good spot. But its too easy to sustain on werewolf.
My suggestion - All skills on werewolf, apart form the magic heal, gain ramping cost for around 10 seconds. keep the costs as they are with the PTS werewolf, relatively low, or even lower and make the ramping cost 33% like with roll dodge and Streak, PER INDIVIDUAL skill, exclude Claw fury, since that's a channel. Make the werewolf heavy attack remove all stacks of ramping cost, while still restoring the extra stamina, and then BOOM! now you have a more calculated skill rotation with less incentive to spam skills for maximum effect! You could also tack onto that heavy attack weapon and spell damage per fatigue stack removed, to give an ever bigger burst to your damage, because werewolf really does not have any surprise damage for burst, and catching out lacking opponents.
This would also make the rampage mode of werewolf More impactful as well, as you can keep the no cost for skills with that, and it would make the rampage mode much more rewarding to build up to.
And last concern is with the Sniffer mode of werewolf. We cant have sneaky werewolfs, so we get a stealth detect on crouch which makes sense for a werewolf having the ability to sniff out invisible opponents, HOWEVER, Again, Balance. A detect potion every 3 seconds is broken.
Sentry, the set has a 30 second cooldown to allow for some window of counterplay, and a detect potion goes on cooldown for roughly the same amount of time( 45 seconds -11 or so seconds).
Stealth detection is THE hard counter for stealthy playstyles. That's also why there is a cooldown.
For those 10 or so seconds when stealth detection is active, its becomes a game of hide and seek plus ice tag. The stealthy boi is completely at the mercy of the stealth detector, until that timer runs out.
With werewolf, there is NO down time. There is a stamina cost for activating the sniffer mode, but as we discussed, werewolf has no sustain issues, so you can spam this to take away ANY leverage that a stealthy boi might have. You also have the gapclose on werewolf which allows you to jump directly on the stealthy boi when you see him.
Stealth is some builds primary form of damage mitigation. that's why there is a cooldown on the sentry set and with detection potions because stealth detection is a FULL counter to a stealth build. Giving a stealth build those 30 seconds of breathing room gives stealth builds a chance to regain leverage, and re assess a fight before making the decision of weather to either re-engage or dis-engage, based off of the scenario. This leads to the fun fights of hide and seek and freeze tag that make pvp encounters exciting.
Werewolf just does away with this completely. Its a one sided encounter where every time the werewolf wins. That is bad for balance and just not fun.
Solution Add a cooldown of around 30 seconds to the stealth detection portion of the sniffer mode, or heavily reduce the radius of detection.
Re: Monster Hunter Personality from Tomes needs this one "FIX"
I get what you mean, but wouldn't it just be better to have it "this personality hides your weapon when stowed", in general?
I only use staves, and they clip too. This way I would't be forced to use one of those motives that are invisible when stowed.
I really like the way dual wield looks with it and that's a reason why I bought it. But you're right that the clipping is annoying on staffs. Maybe it could be given a toggle to hide weapons for each hand. It would be a cool thing to add to a lot of personalities with weapons tbh.
The Greatsword in particular would be cool though because we actually got the weapon and personality released at the same time and having this unique interaction between personalities and their weapons would be a pretty awesome way to add some variety to weapon stances in this game.
Re: Overland Content Feedback Thread
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »[*] Separating Players by Challenge Difficulty Setting [Feedback]: We have seen your questions and feedback about separating players by Challenge Difficulty setting, so the only players you’d see are those on the same Challenge Difficulty setting as you. Much of this feedback is grounded in concerns that players on lower difficulty will affect players on higher difficulty in overland content. There are two main reasons why this is not possible.
- Reason 1: Our game is an MMO and we want players to play together, see others, interact with the world, soft group, etc. Separating players would run counter to that ethos.
- Reason 2: We cannot do this from a technical standpoint. Creating instances of each zone would be hugely detrimental to the game's technical health and adversely affect the entire game, not just the zones with instances.
- We are still looking at feedback, and this was identified when the system was developed but one thing to remember is this is not fundamentally different from the experience currently on the live servers. Players opting in to Challenge Difficulty will have a better experience most of the time, but in high traffic areas you may see a greater mix of lower- and higher-difficulty players.
This was on the pts forum. I feel like reason 2's information should have been given to those of us in this thread years ago. But here's the answer finally.
Re: Inventory is Excessive Micro-Management
It Back when there was no sticker book and no option to use transmutation stones to recreate a piece of equipment, I would've agreed.
But these days it is really comfortable to organise inventory. Well, at least for me with my 12 character non ESO+ account. There are just a couple of habits that one needs to cultivate and there will never be any inventory bloat.
1) Know your build's gear. Don't experiment, that's what the PTS is for.
2) Use the sticker book, don't hoard gear. With 1500 transmute crystals it is possible to make 60 pieces of gear at once. That is 5 characters!
3) Get all the free storage space. Bank (240), Inventory (200 per character, 10 characters are free), Storage Chests (360).
4) Use motives, plans and recipes when you get them. Sell them at once, if you know them.
5) Use up your consumable materiels. Craft potions, glyphs and food to sell them on guild stores. The good ones sell like candy. The others mostly sell as raw mats for good gold. Only the provisioning mats that are not used for commonly used food and for daily crafting writs need to be sold to regular merchants, 5 gold apiece.
6) Use Houses for storing furnishings, not the bank.
7) Hoarding is bad for mental health. Sell like crazy! Use Master Merchant or Tamriel Trade Centre to know real value and fill up all of your 30 slots in every one of your guilds.
Remember: The bank inventory is limited to 240 slots, but the amount of gold is limited to 2.1 billion.
There is more, ofc. But these are the most important.
But these days it is really comfortable to organise inventory. Well, at least for me with my 12 character non ESO+ account. There are just a couple of habits that one needs to cultivate and there will never be any inventory bloat.
1) Know your build's gear. Don't experiment, that's what the PTS is for.
2) Use the sticker book, don't hoard gear. With 1500 transmute crystals it is possible to make 60 pieces of gear at once. That is 5 characters!
3) Get all the free storage space. Bank (240), Inventory (200 per character, 10 characters are free), Storage Chests (360).
4) Use motives, plans and recipes when you get them. Sell them at once, if you know them.
5) Use up your consumable materiels. Craft potions, glyphs and food to sell them on guild stores. The good ones sell like candy. The others mostly sell as raw mats for good gold. Only the provisioning mats that are not used for commonly used food and for daily crafting writs need to be sold to regular merchants, 5 gold apiece.
6) Use Houses for storing furnishings, not the bank.
7) Hoarding is bad for mental health. Sell like crazy! Use Master Merchant or Tamriel Trade Centre to know real value and fill up all of your 30 slots in every one of your guilds.
Remember: The bank inventory is limited to 240 slots, but the amount of gold is limited to 2.1 billion.
There is more, ofc. But these are the most important.
Re: Give the option to turn Sentimental items into Collectibles to free space
I think it could be anything, but players would probably choose things they can no longer get in game, or other sentimental items. I would turn "Darien's Promise" into a collectible.
