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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »If they would stop doing these tests (as the very vocal anti-Vengeance players demand it), what should ZOS be doing instead? If the answer is nothing, then you've pretty much doomed Cyrodiil for everyone.
Idk, maybe test it themselves instead of using unpaid player base to test a concept that most are against.
Perhaps forcing their own employees to test it, instead of us, will give them some actual insight into PVP and they'll learn something? Wishful thinking...
They can never replicate the scenarios you get in live cyro with internal testing. Ever.
albertberku wrote: »Well i listed 3 builds actually. 1: DoT with Maarselok (10% usage). 2: DK (60%), 3: Damage/Burst lines subclass (15%).
And vengeance is 100% nightblades so what is your point?
There will always be a “meta” in every single aspect of the game that people will naturally migrate to. The toxic PvE community is forever reminding of us that: “no you can’t join my raid team because you don’t have an arcanist nor are you parsing 180k dps”.
Your argument that GH is bad because everyone plays the same build while at the same time defending Veng where everyone plays the same build, frankly baffles me.
Thats simply not true. I have seen a huge variety of classes in Vengeance. There are even pure necromancers running around again! Which is simply unheard of in GH.
SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »When Vengeance finally goes live and the seasoned PvP players that have been sitting it out return, I wonder how long it will be till posts show up whining that they are still getting killed.
Did this actually happen? Lol. I'm genuinely asking because I like to play both GH and the Vengeance test but the only ones that were whining were the GH sweats that didn't have their crutches available in Vengeance, lol
Yeah I noticed alot of people complaining that veng was only for zergs and how it was impossible to solo. Then I and a few others had no issues 1vXing and doing all the same things I normally would. I could still pull people into towers or chokeholds to 1vX. I could make a group and kite enemies into seige spots like trapping enemies in holes then oiling them.
Maybe its just because Im an old PvPer who remembers smallman pvping without all of the handholding most "elite" coordinated groups have with their group stacking sets that give them 10x a normal player's stats while fully immune to all CC. IDK it feels like the 2014-2015 era pvp where you needed map knowledge and actual kiting skills.
Vengeance has NEVER felt anything like live Cyrodiil. It's always been a stripped down zerg fest where the only thing that matters is the size of the zerg. Vengeance has never been and never will be anything like live Cyrodiil. That's why vengeance will never be a legitimate preparation for live Cyrodiil as well.
I have seen a lot of 1vxing going on, and small scale as well, so this simply is not true. Cyrodiil was however BUILT for zerging, that was kind of the whole point, so if you see more of that, and you see bigger groups again because the game isnt a slide show, that is a good thing in my book.
Performance has been terrible, and ranged builds are limited to melee range... so whats the point? How is this fun? Guess im not playing ESO for a week then...
28 meters isnt melee range.....
Jammy420
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Glad to see Vengeance back up! It is nice to have some balance added and have actually Player vs Player instead of Build vs Build. It is nice to be able to take the field as a REAL Warden again! To see other REAL Classes on the field! There is a multitude of builds out there, not just 3! It is enjoyable to see some hours long battles out there on top of the broken castle walls😎 It is nice to see people in Cyrodiil who would not otherwise be there! And a lot more to come before the week is out!
Infinite Archive & Imperial City: Weekly Vendors between April 21 and April 28, 2026
This week, Filer Ool will offer the following at the Infinite Archive:
Cycle reward chests will have Armor Sets from the following zones:
The Tel Var Merchants will be offering the following at the Alliance Bases in the Imperial City Sewers:
- Archival Essay: Bal Foyen Treasure Map (2000 Fortunes)
- Bound Style Page: Stonekeeper Shoulder(15000 Fortunes)
- May require having access to Frostvault (Wrathstone DLC Dungeon) to purchase.
- Bound Affix Script: Berserk (10000 or 2000 Fortunes)
- You must complete The Wing of the Netch in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Affix Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Event Daily Quest coffers
- Imperial City Daily Quest coffers
- Undaunted Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Focus Script: Bleed Damage (15000 or 3000 Fortunes)
- Bound Focus Script: Immobilize (15000 or 3000 Fortunes)
- You must complete The Wing of the Gryphon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Focus Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Rewards for the Worthy coffers
- Mages Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Signature Script: Crusader's Defiance (20000 or 4000 Fortunes)
- You must complete The Wing of the Dragon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Signature Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Boss Daily Quest coffers
- Cyrodiil Town Daily Quest coffers
- Fighters Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Companion Equipment: Heavy Armor (5000 Fortunes)
- Public Dungeon Collectible Fragment: Sixth House Writhing Thread (3000 Fortunes)
- One of 7 fragments for the Sixth House Robe Costume. Can be consumed and tracked with the Sixth House Robe Achievement.
- It can alternatively drop from random enemies in the Forgotten Wastes (Vvardenfell Public Dungeon).
- Infinite Archive Collectible Fragment: Maligraphic Ichor (10000 Fortunes)
- ToT Deck Fragment: Delver's Alessia Deck Fragment (1000 Fortunes)
- It can alternatively drop from the Delve Bosses in West Weald.
- Lead: Apocrypha Stone Base (5000 Fortunes)
- One of the leads for the Vision of Mora Furnishing.
- It can alternatively drop from the Infinite Archive. It's dig site is located in Apocrypha.
- Lead: Fangs of Bitter Mercy (5000 Fortunes)
- One of the leads for the Huntsman's Warmask Mythic.
- It can alternatively drop from Vykosa the Ascendant in the Moon Hunter Keep (Wolfhunter DLC Dungeon Final Boss). Its digsite is located in Solstice.
- Furnishing Pattern: Dark Elf Rug, Fungal (2000 Fortunes)
- Furnishing Praxis: High Isle Turret, Conical Castle (2000 Fortunes)
- Furnishing Praxis: Telvanni Table Runner, Bordered Azure (2000 Fortunes)
- Book Furnishing: How Rajhin Stole the Book That Knows (1000 Fortunes)
- Book Furnishing: Life in the Camonna Tong (1000 Fortunes)
Cycle reward chests will have Armor Sets from the following zones:
- Stonefalls
- Shadow of the Red Mountain
- Shalk Exoskeleton
- Silks of the Sun
- High Isle
- Blessing of High Isle
- Steadfast's Mettle
- Systres' Scowl
The Tel Var Merchants will be offering the following at the Alliance Bases in the Imperial City Sewers:
- Archival Essay: Bal Foyen Treasure Map (6000 Tel Var)
- Bound Affix Script: Defile (10000 Tel Var)
- You must complete The Wing of the Netch in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Affix Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Event Daily Quest coffers
- Imperial City Daily Quest coffers
- Undaunted Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Focus Script: Generate Ultimate (15000 Tel Var)
- Bound Focus Script: Trauma (15000 Tel Var)
- You must complete The Wing of the Gryphon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Focus Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Rewards for the Worthy coffers
- Mages Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Signature Script: Gladiator's Tenacity (20000 Tel Var)
- You must complete The Wing of the Dragon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Signature Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Boss Daily Quest coffers
- Cyrodiil Town Daily Quest coffers
- Fighters Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Skill Style Fragment: Fragment of the Exarch (5000 Tel Var)
- One of 5 fragments for the Silver Bolts, Vibrant Yellow Skill Style. Can be consumed and tracked with the Skill Stylist: Silver Bolts Achievement.
- It can alternatively drop from Exarch Savfyr at the Vampire Feeding Grounds (Blackreach: Greymoor Caverns World Boss).
- Lead: Carved Stone Key (25000 Tel Var)
- One of the leads for the Music Box, Hermit Crab Dance Furnishing.
- It can alternatively drop from the Solstice Daily Quest Coffers (Offered by Lector Volonaro and Morlia in Sunport). Its digsite is located in Solstice.
- Lead: Volenfell Etching Tools(25000 Tel Var)
- One of the leads for Rourken Steamguards Mythic.
- It can alternatively drop from the Guardian Council in Volenfell (Alik'r Desert Group Dungeon Final Boss). Its digsite is located in West Weald.
- Amulet of Oakfather's Retribution (100 000 Tel Var)
- Ring of Oakfather's Retribution (100 000 Tel Var)
- Reactive Necklace (100 000 Tel Var)
- Reactive Ring (100 000 Tel Var)
Maitsukas
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Re: Why are weekly Tome challenges refreshing on Tuesday instead of Monday?
allochthons wrote: »Does anyone know why Tuesday is used?
I believe initially it was to coincide with the weekly server maintenance/downtimes. But those aren't regularly on Tuesdays anymore, so now it's likely out of habit.
Re: Please change the "weather" in vengeance
It's the Apocrypha skybox currently used in Vengeance, at least it gets changed into a regular one once it becomes a permanent Campaign with U50.
Re: battle grounds are ruined
Just fight or die trying. Especially when people can join mid match. The penalty exists for a reason and you perfectly explained the reason. Either stick around for the whole match or don't que up at all. Also if you do have a problem with DK's then thats on you for not knowing how to counter them (stun+ranged). Also since DKs are legit just fire use fire resistance enchantments on jewelry and dont be a vampire.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 1 Summary
Colindestiny2 wrote: »
Maybe instead of lowering the cellings and making power creep controlled How about we just raise the floor for some of the other classes so that way we have some classes who do good in one part but another class does good in another part Its okay to have sorc be super good in single target because you can count the amount of single target fights on your hand where as the aoe fights I don't think you have enough fingers!
- I do not understand why people are so resistant to nerfs on the test server. It would make sense if I were proposing to take away the power you already have on live. But that's a test server, where balance could (and should) change between the patches, until we reach appropriate numbers.
- I do not understand the obsession with "raising the floor". You already have enough damage, even on semi-RP builds, to get any trifecta. The problem would be to find a group that will let you prog SbS on your petomancer/elementalist/whatever. And, last time I checked, we were playing in Elder Scrolls Online, not in World of Warcraft, so increasing power for everyone every patch should not be expected.
- If we're raising the floor for classes, we also should raise the floor for multiclasses, too, since they are worse now. Regardless of everyone's opinion on that "system", it is a part of a game now, so we should respect its existence and balance things while keeping it in mind. Therefore, raising the floor will lead to buffing literally every class skill. That looks like a much worse solution than balancing pure class by adjusting numbers in class sets and class masteries.
- I agree that it's fine if some class is better than another in one part, but worse in another. This is not what's happening on PTS. If we take both Sorc and DK in their parse set-ups for content:
Sorc won't be using Monolith, since it's extremely impractical in most of the fight, Overload (and therefore Signet), since your group expects you to bring Atro. But you will be receiving a buff from Heat Shock.
DK would keep the same set-up. And receive Banner/Status Knife buffs from Sorc.
In this case, DK will probably out-DPS Sorc in ST-DPS. And DK has cleave, that Sorc's lacking.
Sorc is not a ST-specialist in content; it's worse than DK, even if dummy parses may deceive you. - Obvious ways to fix it:
- Rework Monolith, so it won't be Null Arca+Coral on dummy, and borderline unusable in content, so Sorc's damage won't have such a big difference between dummy and content setups.
- Rework Pyrebrand. It's over-performing in both PvE and PvP (from what I've seen on the forum), and has a bad design, since it's tied to one specific class mastery. Maybe tone down Wildfire Embers a bit, too.
- I can live with Warden overperforming on the dummy with Signet and bad sustain.
- I'm not too happy with Plar's ST being too high, considering its cleave from jabs, but Aetheric Lancer is not too practical, since it forces you to stand in its AoE, which can spawn in awkward places, so in content you'll either use another set (=DPS loss), or play riskily. Also, you have an ultigen mastery, so you may become support DD in WM or Crypt, and run Bastion of Light instead of Judgment’s Brand, since your group wants 300 WPD from you. Overall, that's fine.
- For the rest of the classes, I'm asking for buffs.
- Rework Monolith, so it won't be Null Arca+Coral on dummy, and borderline unusable in content, so Sorc's damage won't have such a big difference between dummy and content setups.
IDK why people are trying to present me as some evil Grinch who wants to steal all the fun from everybody, while I'm just asking to bring outliers back in line, instead of buffing literally everything to the level of outliers.
Re: Did the PTS break?
Hey everyone, apologies for not messaging out the status of PTS yesterday. We were doing some additional testing for things outside of the Update 50 patch and ran into a few issues. We ended up needing to revert something in order to retain the characters copied from week 1 (or any templated characters that were created), but that reversion took several hours and put us into evening hours. The faster alternative would've been to do another character copy from Saturday, which we didn't feel like would be preferred by anyone.
All that to say, the team is back online after getting some rest and we are planning for PTS to be open by noon EDT, barring any additional major issues.
All that to say, the team is back online after getting some rest and we are planning for PTS to be open by noon EDT, barring any additional major issues.
Re: Challenge System is Impacting Standard Game Play
wolfie1.0. wrote: »Finding materials is making the nirnhoned issue from Craglorn an issue for everything on every map. Resources are scarcer. Trying to get enough materials to improve your gear or make a pot could feel like an unpaid challenge in itself.
I find the collect resource challenges more then adequate to keep my materials stocked. I open 15 surveys of the type needed and then go to those zones as time permits. And if those zones are overcrowded because of a zone-specific challenge, it's okay because surveys are not affected. I know... "boring and tedious".
What comes to those that do not have a stack of surveys?
Wait till you can get more? Or buy them?
I have 7 accounts I have been doing challenges on. Based on how I was running endeavors, its better.
I look at it this way. When I have an account with challenges as detailed below here is what i do:
5 challenges = not focus on them this week
10 challenges = make sure to complete at least 3
12 challenges = make sure to complete 5 or more.
This basically means that I can just relax and play like normal with no pressure or fomo for about 10 to 11 days per account. Then it starts to ramp up a bit.
With rerolls and duplicates, it becomes easier to get done.
Ironically the resource gather takes the longest for me as you cant do those in groups, but since surveys count those help speed things up.
If I dont have surveys I reroll until I get like maps or something.
I imagine that once more challenges come out, and the novelty wears off, that it wont be as cumbersome to complete.
Especially with the rollover cap in place.
I have reached a point where the challenges are more frustrating than fun so I don't do them unless it blends into my game play. Unfortunately for me, other folks like challenges so much they want to farm them all in the first day. This leaves players like me in a situation where we must cater to the crowd or just stop playing. (I think someone actually suggested this.)
The issue I present is not how to complete challenges but rather how to play the game while others are trying to complete challenges.
shadoza
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