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Re: Class refreshes, subclassing vs multiclassing
i think Warden's Green Balance line will get some skill morphs that deal Poison damage.
The class will probably have Frost, Poison, and maybe Bleed.
Magic damage can be replaced by Frost so it is more consistent throughout the class.
i also think the argument with Subclassing not being like other games and saying it should be called Multiclassing instead is pointless. Players also love to refer to Chapters and other DLC as expansions.
It is confusing, just use whichever term ZOS decided on for the in-game system so we all know what we are referring to.
i am optimistic about the Class Refresh.
Hoping all my Subclassed builds all still work after each Refresh.
The class will probably have Frost, Poison, and maybe Bleed.
Magic damage can be replaced by Frost so it is more consistent throughout the class.
i also think the argument with Subclassing not being like other games and saying it should be called Multiclassing instead is pointless. Players also love to refer to Chapters and other DLC as expansions.
It is confusing, just use whichever term ZOS decided on for the in-game system so we all know what we are referring to.
i am optimistic about the Class Refresh.
Hoping all my Subclassed builds all still work after each Refresh.
Re: Class refreshes, subclassing vs multiclassing
For Templars they are mostly light focused, with just a few skills being "lightless". If lightlessness was a theme in more of the abilities, I would say a "dark Templar" is a potential subset. But there just isn't enough for that to be currently true, and so I can't think of a current subset within Templar other than stamina vs magicka.
They took away the actuall lightlessness a few patches ago. It's all pee coloured now. :'(
Re: Why is there a timer at the end of a dungeon?
It's because each dungeon is an instance, and the goal is to get that server space back.
Yes, people run dungeons solo and then the timer doesn't trigger, but I think that's an edge case that was not considered when the timer was implemented. But in general, the original idea was that people would run the dungeon and get out so the instance could be freed, and not have one person AFK in the instance holding it open for eternity.
Finn made a post on the PTS forum talking about how more smaller instances actually make performance worse for the overall game, so the idea is that one person is not able to essentially hold the game's performance hostage. I'm sure they could increase the timer, but the exact thing they don't want is for one person to make a permanent instance of an empty dungeon (times hundreds of players) which would start to degrade performance over the whole game.
Yes, people run dungeons solo and then the timer doesn't trigger, but I think that's an edge case that was not considered when the timer was implemented. But in general, the original idea was that people would run the dungeon and get out so the instance could be freed, and not have one person AFK in the instance holding it open for eternity.
Finn made a post on the PTS forum talking about how more smaller instances actually make performance worse for the overall game, so the idea is that one person is not able to essentially hold the game's performance hostage. I'm sure they could increase the timer, but the exact thing they don't want is for one person to make a permanent instance of an empty dungeon (times hundreds of players) which would start to degrade performance over the whole game.
Re: Why is there a timer at the end of a dungeon?
Agreed! I have often wished for this. It used to be much worse, however -- the timer used to be only a few seconds and there would not even be time to turn in the quest often, if everyone else immediately left.
On a related note, I would also like the option to opt out of getting immediately pulled to a boss as soon as the speed runner arrives at it. I often get pulled away from a chest I am opening, loot I am collecting, or trash mobs I am fighting. I am glad the option for the pull exists (so you can still get credit for the last boss even when there is a speed runner) but it should not be obligatory.
On a related note, I would also like the option to opt out of getting immediately pulled to a boss as soon as the speed runner arrives at it. I often get pulled away from a chest I am opening, loot I am collecting, or trash mobs I am fighting. I am glad the option for the pull exists (so you can still get credit for the last boss even when there is a speed runner) but it should not be obligatory.
Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Crown Store Showcase—April 2026"
@ZOS_Kevin Is the price change for this costume pack intended? Because it used to be 700/560 Crowns.
Re: Is Mesh network PvP the future of cyrodil
MincMincMinc wrote: »As we saw in the livestreams zos is designing a one keep campaign. Where we have three spawn zones surrounding a single keep with a river going around it. There are bridges for bridge fights, and outside the river are resource nodes to contest. We know to solve the pvp lag issues they are simply reducing the player population again to account for the ballooning game code.
The real question is whether zos is going to take this mini keep campaign and go further with it. Theoretically they could distribute the playerbase across multiple mini zones each controlled by their own server to distribute the lag. Imagine if we took cyrodil and made a hex grid across the map. Then every hex was its own server where you could run between and swap to. Thus they could cut down the lag of a server in half or more depending how many keep fights are going on. If they were really smart they would probably disband the 3 faction concept and find ways to prevent massive singularity events where everyone in the campaign winds up at a single keep.
Ive been wondering about this for a while. But not on such a large scale. Like they said they cant give us large scale pvp with minimal lag and no changes to what we have access to. But i dont expect large scale combat with minimal lag. I just want to be able to have a 5 player fight at allessia and not be impacted by the massive zerg fight at chalmen. And i dont see why they cant give us that at least. Some form of lag during massive fights is expected, at least if you have any experience in large scale fights in any mmo. Maybe not always esos notorious, and abysmal, ability delay. But extreme FPS drops can be bad as well.
But i was thinking maybe they could split cyro into parts, with like a load screen in separating both halves. But thats just a thought, regardless i feel like they should be able to, at least, give us better performance away from massive fights in cyrodiil.
Lagzee
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Re: Werewolves should exceed Movement Speed Cap
I have over 7K hours into the game and play mostly for werewolf too, so this ain't a 'lack of experience' thing.
Folks gotta understand that the model is bigger now, we're not a tiny little ratdog running around anymore, thank goodness. We're a big beast, but that speed may FEEL slower as a result. Maybe a passive isn't working, there's already a combat one that doesn't. BUT I don't think werewolf needs to be as fast as a mount, that has varying balance issues that people aren't thinking about.
Folks gotta understand that the model is bigger now, we're not a tiny little ratdog running around anymore, thank goodness. We're a big beast, but that speed may FEEL slower as a result. Maybe a passive isn't working, there's already a combat one that doesn't. BUT I don't think werewolf needs to be as fast as a mount, that has varying balance issues that people aren't thinking about.
coop500
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for New Item Sets
The point was made in SkinnyCheeks' stream that it would be a good idea to also change the underwhelming 2-4 piece bonuses for common trial support DD sets so that wearing them feels like less of a personal penalty/being "in jail".
A quick list would include:
Martial Knowledge -> change 2-piece bonus of Max Mag (to Weapon Damage?)
Elemental Catalyst -> change 2- and 4-piece bonuses of Max Mag (to Crit Chance?)
Z'ens -> change 2-piece bonus of Mag Regen and 4-piece bonus of Max Mag (to Weapon Damage?)
As an aside, the trend of going back and changing the bonuses on old sets is SUCH a huge W for the game and its positive momentum. It is one of those relatively small things that really makes it feel as though the current team "gets it" and is attentively listening to pain points and responding.
A quick list would include:
Martial Knowledge -> change 2-piece bonus of Max Mag (to Weapon Damage?)
Elemental Catalyst -> change 2- and 4-piece bonuses of Max Mag (to Crit Chance?)
Z'ens -> change 2-piece bonus of Mag Regen and 4-piece bonus of Max Mag (to Weapon Damage?)
As an aside, the trend of going back and changing the bonuses on old sets is SUCH a huge W for the game and its positive momentum. It is one of those relatively small things that really makes it feel as though the current team "gets it" and is attentively listening to pain points and responding.
Re: Engulfing Dragonfire
Are engulfing set ups running talons it’s a 5 second dot so might allow to make up some ground to whip set ups?
Yes, pretty sure the Hyper build I used did. Breath parsed well on a stationary dummy, but in content, the melee aspect/range of breath was quite limited for me. Still probably stronger than heavy attacks but arcanist beams were more comfortable. I have also played arc more, so that is probably part of it.
Breath builds are getting zos'd from multiple directions. Welcome to the heavy attack enjoyers struggle.
Re: Can we please have some "down time"?
The OP has a point.
This isn’t just “people overthinking it” — it’s a real, well-understood design strategy used in games and apps.
What’s happening is a mix of a few known psychological effects:
The Zeigarnik Effect — unfinished tasks stick in your mind and create a sense of tension until they’re completed
Loss Aversion — the feeling of missing out is stronger than the reward of gaining something
FOMO — time-limited tasks create pressure even if you don’t really care about the reward
When you stack systems like long grinds + limited-time pursuits + unclear or bugged tracking, you end up with multiple “open loops” sitting in the background.
Even if you consciously think:
“I don’t care about this”
your brain still registers:
“this is unfinished”
And that creates a low-level pressure to go and clear it.
So telling people to “just ignore it” or “snap out of it” misses the point — this is exactly how these systems are designed to work. They rely on normal human behaviour, not lack of willpower.
The result isn’t motivation — it’s fatigue.
You stop choosing what you want to do, and start clearing things just to make the noise go away.
That’s why people are asking for downtime — not less content, just space to actually play on their own terms again.
This isn’t just “people overthinking it” — it’s a real, well-understood design strategy used in games and apps.
What’s happening is a mix of a few known psychological effects:
The Zeigarnik Effect — unfinished tasks stick in your mind and create a sense of tension until they’re completed
Loss Aversion — the feeling of missing out is stronger than the reward of gaining something
FOMO — time-limited tasks create pressure even if you don’t really care about the reward
When you stack systems like long grinds + limited-time pursuits + unclear or bugged tracking, you end up with multiple “open loops” sitting in the background.
Even if you consciously think:
“I don’t care about this”
your brain still registers:
“this is unfinished”
And that creates a low-level pressure to go and clear it.
So telling people to “just ignore it” or “snap out of it” misses the point — this is exactly how these systems are designed to work. They rely on normal human behaviour, not lack of willpower.
The result isn’t motivation — it’s fatigue.
You stop choosing what you want to do, and start clearing things just to make the noise go away.
That’s why people are asking for downtime — not less content, just space to actually play on their own terms again.
Taarente
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