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Re: ROA changes
AngryPenguin wrote: »The change to RoA should have been to add "to monsters only" condition to the set. That is the only solution that makes any sense.
People say things like this because they think it is going to make ball groups just go away from PvP. I hate to break it to everyone but they could get rid of DC and ROA and there will still be ball groups. We will still find alternative sets. You're not going to b e able to get rid of a core group of 12 people who take pride in their comp.
No. That is not what I said or why I said it. Please try to be less presumptuous in the future.
I don't have a problem with comped groups. I used to run in one of the strongest comp groups in Cyrodiil. (Tyr) But that was before Dark Convergence and RoA. We could be killed with massive coordination and some well placed negates. Changes since then have made ball groups nearly invincible and 100x more trollish.
I don't want ball groups abolished or gone. I want them to be more fair and manageable.
AngryPenguin
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Re: Should Desync Causing CC be Removed in PvP?
The real answer is that they should just recode these mechanics from scratch and make them work. Not just copy, paste, and patch up code from 2010 development days. Generally the skills are fine on the landscape plane(the smooth hilly surface that makes up the ground) however they break on certain assets like keep walls and staircases.
There are probably limitations game engine wise. However there are probably work arounds like a knockup could just make your character "jump backwards" with a different animation while doing a normal stun. Vs some poorly coded scripted path that tries to place you X distance behind you on the same plane.
The worrying thing we see in the current combat direction is how many playstyles are being made boring and converging into a singular playstyle. At some point if all CC are the same combat will feel stale. If all class lines have the same generic ult gen they will be no different. If all spammables play the same why not just choose the one best? You can keep going on and on. Subclassing only accelerated this and pushed everyone to play nearly identically no matter the "build". Its pretty comical when people complain about vengeance template pvp......yet live is mostly all just a zos template build with different animations.
There are probably limitations game engine wise. However there are probably work arounds like a knockup could just make your character "jump backwards" with a different animation while doing a normal stun. Vs some poorly coded scripted path that tries to place you X distance behind you on the same plane.
The worrying thing we see in the current combat direction is how many playstyles are being made boring and converging into a singular playstyle. At some point if all CC are the same combat will feel stale. If all class lines have the same generic ult gen they will be no different. If all spammables play the same why not just choose the one best? You can keep going on and on. Subclassing only accelerated this and pushed everyone to play nearly identically no matter the "build". Its pretty comical when people complain about vengeance template pvp......yet live is mostly all just a zos template build with different animations.
Are we all dumb for sitting in greyhost que?
The thought popped up in my head this morning. Pretty much every day people get home and hop on to que into greyhost. Some nights I see a 40 person que, some nights up to 80 people. We all know we are just going to wait for an hour to get in, then half the server is a guild zerging and the other half are ballgroups. Rarely we see pug groups or what used to be normal player zergs back in the day.
Guys the factions only have population caps of like 72 players. Which means most nights we could literally fill a second campaign. Its funny if you think about it, GH is a bandwagon that is broken down, but there are just as many people waiting to get into the bandwagon as there are riding it.
Lag wise one theory is that player dilution could split up the guild groups and ball groups between two different servers. Much like older MyM events would do by filling up the servers with questers or new players that just light attack instead of only ball groups pumping every aoe stacking over time effect in the game.
Guys the factions only have population caps of like 72 players. Which means most nights we could literally fill a second campaign. Its funny if you think about it, GH is a bandwagon that is broken down, but there are just as many people waiting to get into the bandwagon as there are riding it.
Lag wise one theory is that player dilution could split up the guild groups and ball groups between two different servers. Much like older MyM events would do by filling up the servers with questers or new players that just light attack instead of only ball groups pumping every aoe stacking over time effect in the game.
- Are there ways zos can layout the servers to incentivize players to play in the other campaigns?
- Reward ideas for off campaigns? AP, Monster keys, golden gear, arena weapons, mythic leads, golden mats?
- Que lock mechanics that prevent 2x the population of greyhost from just sitting afk and push them towards the secondary campaign.
- Other ideas?
Re: Dev Clarification?
My bad (and no edit option). The announcement is phrased in UTC, which would indeed flip over to 23 Aug at midnight.
Edit button is on the title banner
Re: Future of Battlegrounds
I'm in the opposite end to some here - I hate Deathmatch.
When they tried to force us all into DM 24/7, I simply deconned my gear, I was so furious.
There is nothing exciting about knowing "I have a better build than you and will just bury you for the next X minutes" (or vice versa). Objectives are where the under dog had a chance against the wolves, to strategize and work around them.
The thing PVP offers, that PVE never will, is other players being clever or shrewd, adapting, surprising you. I don't care if I'm winning or losing, a meatgrind slog is not of interest (and I like PVP games a lot).
I do miss the 3 teams, precisely because it gave folks a chance to fight for 2nd place - and during the fighting, the little guy could always surprise the others, stealing objectives while folks are busy killing.
If they did anything, I'd go like old Killzone, where every 1-2 minutes the objective would change mid-match. "Assassination" meant a player was targeted (so theire team was incentivized to defend them), objectives to lay explosives ("explosive runes if you want"), objectives to find objects, "kill everything", etc. It gives everyone a chance to contribute in different ways, at different times, and then give points based on contributing.
Instead of guessing which queue to separate folks into, mix-up the objective. Now the murder-bros can kill all they want (but realize they need to help the objective-chasers), the objective-folks can focus on strategy (which means pivoting when DM activates), etc.
When they tried to force us all into DM 24/7, I simply deconned my gear, I was so furious.
There is nothing exciting about knowing "I have a better build than you and will just bury you for the next X minutes" (or vice versa). Objectives are where the under dog had a chance against the wolves, to strategize and work around them.
The thing PVP offers, that PVE never will, is other players being clever or shrewd, adapting, surprising you. I don't care if I'm winning or losing, a meatgrind slog is not of interest (and I like PVP games a lot).
I do miss the 3 teams, precisely because it gave folks a chance to fight for 2nd place - and during the fighting, the little guy could always surprise the others, stealing objectives while folks are busy killing.
If they did anything, I'd go like old Killzone, where every 1-2 minutes the objective would change mid-match. "Assassination" meant a player was targeted (so theire team was incentivized to defend them), objectives to lay explosives ("explosive runes if you want"), objectives to find objects, "kill everything", etc. It gives everyone a chance to contribute in different ways, at different times, and then give points based on contributing.
Instead of guessing which queue to separate folks into, mix-up the objective. Now the murder-bros can kill all they want (but realize they need to help the objective-chasers), the objective-folks can focus on strategy (which means pivoting when DM activates), etc.
Re: When is the "next incremental patch"?
Given the announcement up top, I'd say in about two hours?
That just says 'maintenance', not 'patch maintenance'. So no patch.
Re: Eso feels dull and formulaic
How about a full-scale attack by the Worm cult?
I noticed since the last update I now have dolmens on my map even though none seem active yet. Looks we they are already getting ready for the Writhing Wall event.
Re: weird vertial "matrix code" in a forum thread
For a joke post in a joke thread, I found it fine.
Explanation: Some languages have accents and other diacritical marks and they can be added to letters seperately. If I type "´" and "e" on my keyboard, I'll automatically get an "é". Or with "^" and "o" I'll get an "ô". Those are two normal letters in French, with accents that belong to the language's orthography. And other languages have similar things. That's the intended use.
But it's also possible to add these things to the same letter endlessly, then they'll show up on top of each other (or underneath each other, because some are supposed to be below a letter) and will form long lines. Some people use that as a graphical/stylistic element and there are even generators for that now. That's what we've seen in that thread (and in my posts here). I agree that normally, it's rather disruptive, and I don't think it should become the norm in normal discussion - but also, I don't think it will be. It's just extra work and serves no real purpose (outside the joke that was made).
Hate to ruin the fun, but it's just "cursified" text. There's plenty of them that can be found online.
Explanation: Some languages have accents and other diacritical marks and they can be added to letters seperately. If I type "´" and "e" on my keyboard, I'll automatically get an "é". Or with "^" and "o" I'll get an "ô". Those are two normal letters in French, with accents that belong to the language's orthography. And other languages have similar things. That's the intended use.
But it's also possible to add these things to the same letter endlessly, then they'll show up on top of each other (or underneath each other, because some are supposed to be below a letter) and will form long lines. Some people use that as a graphical/stylistic element and there are even generators for that now. That's what we've seen in that thread (and in my posts here). I agree that normally, it's rather disruptive, and I don't think it should become the norm in normal discussion - but also, I don't think it will be. It's just extra work and serves no real purpose (outside the joke that was made).
Syldras
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Re: How close are you to finishing the Subclassing grind?
i have leveled up a few lines fully,
some only partially,
and there are also a few I have not touched yet like Dark Magic and Siphoning.
i love Subclassing and it is fun to level up skill lines.
i do not know which poll option fits me though.
That would be poll option #2.
Re: Should Desync Causing CC be Removed in PvP?
AngryPenguin wrote: »Any set that moves another players location on the map should be removed from the game. Free pull sets are an abomination in PvP environments and any dev worth anything knows why without having to be told.
Anything that moves another players location on the map should take up a skill slot, have to be aimed and cast, and cost resources. For example, DK chains are acceptable because it takes up a skill slot, has to be aimed, and costs resources. This is acceptable in a PvP environment. Free pull sets are just inexcusably poor design.
No, friend. There's no difference between an ability or a set that uses displacement. If one goes then the other must as well.
There is nothing inherently noble about Javelin spam or Chain spam.
