So, I guess Update 50 kills Cyrodiil as we know it (at least to those who Don't live in Gray Host). Those PvEers that learn PvP in Vengeance will stay there after they find out they'll have to re-learn everything when they go to Gray Host. Oh, well. I needed the break from this anyway.

- Rest in Peace (again), Cyrodiil

I was surprised at what counted as a boss. Ran vLC last night and went from 10 to over 50.

MincMincMinc wrote: »

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robertlabrie wrote: »

It's interesting that the anti-vengeance camp just wants our old campaigns back and the pro-vengeance camp keeps trying to explain why we're wrong and that we should learn to like it.

robertlabrie wrote: »

It's interesting that the anti-vengeance camp just wants our old campaigns back and the pro-vengeance camp keeps trying to explain why we're wrong and that we should learn to like it.

The anti-vengeance camp doesn’t just want its campaign back. They want to remove Veangence even as an option. If they asked to keep GreyHost side by side with Veangence majority of Vengeance supporters would agree but for some Vengeance haters preventing others from playing Vengeance is more important than getting GreyHost back.

We do not want to remove Vengeance as an option. We want it to be an Option aside ALL regular PvP campaigns. Instead it will be added and 3 of our campaigns will get closed for good. NoCP gone, Standard gone, below 50 gone. Instead we are stuck with CP, Alliance Lock Grey Host for more than double the current population. That will only create huge Queues, preventing us from playing. Vengeance does take something away from us, it doesn't add. Also ZOS focus should have been to fix the actual PvP, not creating a new gamemode.

PCNA in reality 99% of the time u50 campaign has been dead since like clockwork after the Aussie guilds flipped the map to AD for years in a row. Then they moved to NOCP which combined with the already looming AD guilds inevitably flipping the maps nightly killing the campaigns. Then all of these guilds got bored in their own campaign and moved on to greyhost which luckily has the pop to balance them out. The 7day cp campaign turns into overflow hangout spot for ballgroups and 1vX players who hardly even fight each other, being so sweaty made the casual player guilds prefer going to GH or simply not playing.

If the campaigns are dead are we really losing much when Veng replaces them? 90% of people already sit in ques for greyhost or give up and go into bgs for the night. Atleast there is the slight benefit that the uber casual and new players have an entry point in pvp since for years u50 and nocp have been non functional. If anything it frees up que in GH.

They probably learned they cant fix live pvp because its entirely dependent on all of the proc event functions that are disabled with modern item sets, status effect, poisons, weapon enchants, passives, cp, etc. This is why the loadout perk system was made to only modify your permanent character sheet. Design wise they would have to trim ALOT of fat and then limit themselves in ways like maybe only one proc passive per class on the last unlocked bonus. Maybe only ults get crazy effects. Either way it needs to be split from PvE, then you are talking whether to design from the ground up or designing from the top down by untyng a decade long knotted ball of code.

It’s funny, a random forum goer has ideas on how to improve performance without gutting the game, yet ZOS cannot come up with an idea to improve performance without gutting the game. Why? Cause they’d have to FIX MISTAKES they’ve made in the past, and egos would be broken.

Albert is juiced up on copium with vengeance in full swing.

I guess it's simply for Daedric Curse/Prey. Just like Firerune has a big F as the main letter in the middle.

I do think it's nice though that daedric font is utilized so often, and mostly not just as random gibberish. There's actually a big section on UESP about it:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daedric_Alphabet#ESO

Syldras wrote: »

I guess it's simply for Daedric Curse/Prey. Just like Firerune has a big F as the main letter in the middle.

I do think it's nice though that daedric font is utilized so often, and mostly not just as random gibberish. There's actually a big section on UESP about it:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daedric_Alphabet#ESO

Yeah, it would be reasonable to assume it's Daedric Curse Prey, if anything. It's a rune that targets and sticks to the enemy, marking them as the "prey". (Not to mention, it's the name of the spell.)

I choose to play solo most of the time, and enjoy it. There is a lot of content that's closed off from me because of my choice, but I'm okay with that.

I also enjoy randomly helping other players who shout for help in zone chat-- if I can, which isn't always the case. I don't do it for an offered daily quest share; I usually just show up unannounced and help with the fight.

My primary reason for playing solo most of the time (aside from wanting the freedom to run around at will) is feeling that I'm not good enough by other players' standards-- that I'm not wearing BIS gear, or using the most efficient 2-bar LA skill rotation, or playing on a META build.

Even so, I can solo many WBs, including some challenging DLC WBs; I can solo many of the group dungeons on Normal; and I can even solo a few group dungeons on Veteran. Yes, it usually takes me a long time, and sometimes I die a few times before succeeding. So I feel like I'm good enough for myself. But I don't feel like I'm good enough for others.

I don't know that special rewards would incentivize me to group more. I'm not really sure what would incentivize me to do so, although less proselytizing from the playerbase about BIS gear and META builds, and less vocalized disdain for 1-bar setups or 1-skill fighting or using HAs instead of LAs would probably help.

I understand why organized trial groups who are trying to get achievements might care about what builds and skill rotations and gear set combinations their individual members are using, and why competitive PvP groups might also care about those things. But in casual grouping for the vast majority of the game's content, those things shouldn't matter as much.

Another part of why I generally don't enjoy grouping is because the other members of a group usually expect everyone to be familiar with any mechanics and how to deal with them. If I've never run a particular group dungeon before, I'm probably not going to do very well against boss mechanics I haven't gone up against before, and that's going to make for a frustrating and unpleasant experience for everyone in the group.

Attitudes can be different when a group dungeon is still new, because there are players who enjoy going in blind and learning to master the mechanics through repeated attempts and many wipes. But unless a group dungeon is still pretty new, it seems like everyone expects everyone else to study video guides before venturing into a group dungeon for their first time.

I don think you've read this threads comments - People are in fact discouraged or mad about Veng being a thing. I understand you also assume myself or others wouldnt hold the same opinion should Trials or Writs go away for week. We would, so your post kinda sums up everything.

You know it all, now let me imagine what I would say about having to take away trials - but they give them some sort of other trial to do for a week, thats kinda like the other trials really watered down and turns out LOTS of people enjoy it. And yes, it sucks not having the original available, but folks will just have to tough it out. And well since you know it all you wouldve already guessed i would say the exact same thing I am saiyng now. Stop crying.

Your example is poor and about as well thought out as your insult at the end. Keep sticking to it though Champ I am sure your skills will come through at some point.