Apollosipod wrote: »

Taarente wrote: »

I don't understand why tome points are removed at the end of the season. I get that you want us to use tome points, but I don't see why I should be penalised for not using, them. It's not my fault if the rewards are pretty poor and not worth spending points on.

1000% this. If you want us to upgrade to premium versions and spend tome points on these items, they have to be worth doing so. Not bland set pieces and a bunch of items I've already had sitting in a box for a year. I don't need to add to the pile.

It's even more fun than that. The official Zos word is that at the end of each season, they're gonna use your available tome points to buy everything it can afford on the season pass until your tome points run out. They didn't mention if they would save 2k to carry over but I'm pretty sure we can all guess the answer.

virtus753 wrote: »

I’ve seen 16k quoted here on the forums, but Alcast lists just 15.2k for the free track, close to 16k for Premium, and just over 31k for both. I need to count it myself.

Here's my math. I only counted for the Free Tier, for simplicity, because I didn't have time, and I don't intend to buy the Premium or Premium +.
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virtus753 wrote: »

But where are you seeing that buying Premium gives you any extra points? I see only more opportunities to spend points.

Buying the “+ Bonus” tier gives you 2 caches of 2k TP each — which you can, but are not required, to spend on that Tome.

Neither tier forces extra points on you.

This is accurate, as far as I understand.

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My wording was a bit sloppy, and that caused some confusion. I'm sorry. The context here, though, is that people opened the caches without knowing they expired. So I was working under the assumption that the Premium + players would also open their caches, thus exacerbating the problem. However, since I didn't count up the Premium + tome point costs, I should not have mentioned the paid tiers.

I didn't follow your Premium and Premium + math, because I haven't looked into it, and my brain is a bit fuzzy today. (Too much Artemis 2!)

But on the Free Tier, every page costs 2K to unlock, correct? (I'm asking, since I have already earned some TP, my screen wasn't clear, so I did some quick math.)
11pages (including bonus pages), 1 is auto-unlocked = 10 x 2K = 20K tome points needed to gain access to all the rewards.
(edited the line just above this, because I thought both bonus pages had to be unlocked separately. They don't, they're together. Also edited before checked to see if there are more posts.)

allochthons wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

I’ve seen 16k quoted here on the forums, but Alcast lists just 15.2k for the free track, close to 16k for Premium, and just over 31k for both. I need to count it myself.

Here's my math. I only counted for the Free Tier, for simplicity, because I didn't have time, and I don't intend to buy the Premium or Premium +.
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virtus753 wrote: »

But where are you seeing that buying Premium gives you any extra points? I see only more opportunities to spend points.

Buying the “+ Bonus” tier gives you 2 caches of 2k TP each — which you can, but are not required, to spend on that Tome.

Neither tier forces extra points on you.

This is accurate, as far as I understand.

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(source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/guides/tamrieltomes)

My wording was a bit sloppy, and that caused some confusion. I'm sorry. The context here, though, is that people opened the caches without knowing they expired. So I was working under the assumption that the Premium + players would also open their caches, thus exacerbating the problem. However, since I didn't count up the Premium + tome point costs, I should not have mentioned the paid tiers.

I didn't follow your Premium and Premium + math, because I haven't looked into it, and my brain is a bit fuzzy today. (Too much Artemis 2!)

But on the Free Tier, every page costs 2K to unlock, correct? (I'm asking, since I have already earned some TP, my screen wasn't clear, so I did some quick math.)
12 pages (including bonus pages), 1 is auto-unlocked = 11 x 2K = 22K tome points needed to gain access to all the rewards.

Thanks for the math! Just added it myself (didn't see your post - nice spreadsheet!), and yes, Alcast (or whoever posted as Alcast) is missing 800 points from somewhere.

I got 15,990 for the free track too.

Every page except the last requires 2k. Per the UI, both bonus pages unlock at 20k. This is unusual, and maybe it's part of why they named them separately.

So 20k to unlock everything, less the 15,990 spent on the items, then carry over 2,000 to next season = 2,010 completely lost.

They'll have to figure out this cache issue. I'm not going to touch mine until the end of the season.

Hope you're enjoying Artemis Two!

alternatelder wrote: »

Is there a specific reason why challenges are 6 steps of collect 60 points, instead of 1 step collect 360? This seems like it's built just to annoy people. Between accidentally opening all my caches, which we don't know what's going to happen to those points, and having to open the UI every time I get through each of the 6 steps to collect points, I don't even think I'll bother doing them.

Likely so you don't have to do something a million and a half times before you get a reward for it. See the "log in daily" seasonal challenge that allows 99 retries... when the season only had 97 days. Being able to collect as it goes sllows it to be rewarding even if you don't completely finish.

So yes, it's actually player friendlier the way they did it.

Now if the constant collection annoys you, I'm sure someone will come up with an addon real quick to auto collect them so it works just like Endeavors instead of making you stop your gameplay to pick it up.
Oh wait, that already exists: https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info4484-Auto-ClaimTomePoints.html

The first thing I will vestigise is a lone, fast spawning enemy.

Measuring the XP and kill time in each difficulty. Then set my difficulty to whichever gives most XP per used time.

I would actually do the opposite and set DLC overland difficulty base to match base game overland difficulty. That way the people who for whatever reason like the difficulty level of base game overland (yes, they do exist) can set it to level 1 and have their preferred difficulty, while someone who thinks DLC overland is ideal could set it to level 2.

Maybe in someways, but DK tank, you know that part of DK identity that was well established since the start of the game, is poop. The prior existing tanking synergy was completely robbed. DK is no longer a go to tank option.

I agree that playing it feels clumsy now too. I've exclusively played DK, become emperor, become grand overlord, earned millions of telvar during events, and even pushed to the top of the BG leaderboard a couple of times. Now I cant even tell what the heck Im doing in combat due to bad sounds, visual overload, and the absence of feedback that makes sense.

What a mess that is being called a "refresh." The heavy attack thing you bring up is egregious. How can turning a passive ability into a heavy attack based proc possibly be a good idea in any universe?

There need to be design team members like yourself OP.

Mashille wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It wasn't. People really hated it because they couldn't play with their friends. When their company nearly failed, they did massive amounts of research to understand what was going on. And being unable to play with friends was one of the most cited reasons. So, they came up with One Tamriel. This is also why they limit the amount of quest areas that change after a quest is over post relaunch.

You're right there was a host of other issues. But that was a big one and they have discussed it multiple times.

When I say "functionality wise", I mean it worked, not meaning it was liked by players.

I don't think those same issues would occur with instances for "difficulty" though. With the original Alliance instances you were locked in unless you created a whole new character. With difficulty you would be able to change instances at will to join whoever you wanted.

No. I agree that they could fix the issues with how it worked at launch. That's a good example of something they could change to make it go over better a second time around.

I'm just talking about the launch state of the game and why it lead to not separating players becoming a core design philosophy for them. The launch state of the idea was absolutely not fine.

I will never use it.