BretonMage wrote: »

Emeratis wrote: »

I'm gonna quote a post from a discord from a person who's better at math than me because I think it will help ease a few worries:

(snip)
lowest challenge i've seen seems to be 6 × 60 = 360 (396 for ESO+)
highest challenge i've seen seems to be 3 × 200 = 600 (660 for ESO+)

lowest weekly estimate = 360 × 5 × 14 = 25200 (27720)
highest weekly estimate = 600 × 5 × 14 = 42000 (46200)

The disparity isn't insignificant. And for those without a lot of time to do all the challenges, it could affect their rewards unfairly if their (say) 8 hours isn't valued at the same level as another player's 8 hours of play. That's the frustrating thing about RNG. And while I get that we have many systems using RNG in the game, it was not like this before for the daily logins/endeavors system.

I can agree and I kinda feel a little vindicated about talking in the fragment vs buying it with 1000 trade bars thread because I had a similar feeling of getting 12 hypothetical fragments vs having to buy them is a 12,000 trade bar difference and I did wonder if we would see some of this behavior in tomes. I admit I like most of the new direction of things but this kind of rng where a player's experience with events and tomes, which are meant to be an exciting and happy thing, can be soured by having to do double the work for less rewards is not a good thing. I am a firm believer of if you put a reasonable amount of effort into events or a battlepass, you should be able to get everything before it's over and right now events are definitely not doing that and while 42,000 is over double the points needed to complete the battlepass, how fast or slow you complete it depending on whether you roll lucky value missions or not doesn't feel good. Also, if the battle pass gets an endless track as a solution to people opening their boxes it means that even with something such as gold a player could get a bonus income or not depending on something outside of their control.

I really do hope ZOS addresses these pain points and concerns and not just the known bugs with the tomes because this is something the community doesn't feel good about and ZOS should listen to that.

This IS all out of whack. Option - Open 1 ( That's ONE ) treasure chest - 75 points
Option 2 Mine 15 nodes of ore ( understand Half the nodes you find will be jewelry so it will take about 30 nodes to get that 15 ) - 60 points

Oh yeah, that's balanced

BretonMage wrote: »

lowest weekly estimate = 360 × 5 × 14 = 25200 (27720)
highest weekly estimate = 600 × 5 × 14 = 42000 (46200)

Those are two extremes. In reality most people will get something like 35-38k tome points per season, which is more than enough to get everything in the premium tome and even save up for the next one.

Emeratis wrote: »

This promted me to check dungeons and group dungeons also are not counting which means trials and arenas also likely will not count....why?

Neither did Maelstrom arena, I needed one more arena for weekly. Thought, well its technically not in Wrothguard.
Note delves also don't count.

Smart thing here is to wait and do it later.

Feels like I am getting more motifs from the zone dailies. Maybe that was the trade-off?

tmbrinks wrote: »

Yeah, they're still dropping.

That’s not fair. You do writs on 10,000 characters per day, lol.

Can’t vote, because this is completely subjective.

I bought it for the Personality. Granted, it’d have been an easier sell if the Personality allowed permanent prop replacement, but that isn’t how Personalities work (unless they change it, which they absolutely should). But I’m hyper focused on character creation and the like, and I had a character who needed something like that.

I don’t think there’s going to be much for people who aren’t into cosmetics, so at least there are a couple more currencies in there as well. I’ll have to see how the rest go though - I’m still mad at ESO right now, and I don’t want to spend money to support things I disagree with… so we’ll see how the rest go.

Buying all Seasons will be a bit more than the 2025 Pass, and for now new content (since content is free) that feels wrong. So I’ll see how the others play out, especially if the free track gets less rewarding over time (which I fully expect)

The Plus is not worth - double the price, and all you get is a single costume? That costume better be literally magical if it costs $15.

I just want to point out that yes, Imperial City IS in the Tome challenges because that is what I have: Capture an Imperial City District for 125 points 4x.

It would be great if it included delves towards the count, at least. And I realise that this runs for the remainder of the season, so it's not like you have to do it all in a week. BUT, as always, there were already individuals blazing through the towns and countryside trying to grind out the full 1000 on the first day, leaving nothing for anyone else. And the group waiting for the Kvatch Arena WB was so big 90% of us weren't getting anything from the boss at all. Oh, and Kvatch was a veritable sea of dead NPCs with the occasional guard chasing a player through the streets. Lovely!