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Re: A poll about crossplay
frogthroat wrote: »Yes, this will most likely be in the beginning. Markets will find equilibrium eventually and people will mix.SilverBride wrote: »
- The economies are too different.
Bigger difference than with people playing on EU servers, with dozens of nationalities and cultures? And these people shouldn't mix?SilverBride wrote: »
- The societal norms are too different.
Of course there will be an adjustment period, but don't underestimate people. We get along on the EU server just fine, although we have a myriad of cultures mixing. Mixing PC and consoles is not going to be that big of a deal.Yup. That is a task for the dev team, not us.SilverBride wrote: »
- Duplicate User IDs and names will have to be dealt with.
Yup. That is a task for the dev team, not us.SilverBride wrote: »
- Duplicate guild names will have to be dealt with.
A really good point. My guess is they will increase the amount of merchants throughout Tamriel.SilverBride wrote: »[*] There will not be enough merchants for all the trade guilds.
That last one is a puzzler to me.
Bids for traders are already crazy on PC (vs the 'weekly returns') to the point that many of us haven't traded 'for profit' for a long, long time; we trade to be able to finance the trader with the proceedings.
I have no reason to believe that console trading guilds are not at the very least as competitive as PC ones, if not more due to the fact that they had to conduct their business for most of their 'lives' without any addons (which requires serious dedication).
Unless some sorcery takes place with crossplay when it comes to trading guilds 'shark infested waters' is not going to come even close to the carnage that is going to be unleashed.
Console trading guilds are not equipped to compete with PC trading guilds. You have too much of a head start on average war chest money for bids.
I clearly remember the kerfuffle here on the forums a few years ago when someone took over Rawl’kha with joke guilds. The regular traders there posted screenshots of their losing bids, averaging around 50 million+ per trader.
Mournhold is considered our biggest, most expensive capital on PS NA. Those PC bids are roughly 25-30 million more than our average winning bids there. I imagine XBox is in a similar situation as our price checkers more closely match than comparing PC vs console TTC listing prices.
Console trading guilds will be annihilated in time if something to counter-balance isn’t done. And my guild, personally, is donation-based and doesn’t try to compete for the big capitals, and we will likely die in the domino effect of capital guilds losing their primary bids and “over-bidding” on lower backup positions.
My guild has camaraderie, yes. But our primary focus is trading. Take that away and, well, only so many people want or need a plethora of “social” guilds, which is the wasteland console guilds will become with crossplay if it’s just a merging of all platforms together.
Personally, I’m planning to retire from the trading guild game altogether if that’s how it’s all gonna go down. What hope would I have of competing and winning a trader vs 50 million+ gold PC guild bids? I can barely keep up the current fundraising I have to be competitive on console.
It’s pitting an NFL team against a high school varsity team.
Re: Corpseburster disease damage
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Disease damage on the class set is excellent news and a sign of things to come. We may actually be cooking with a real, traditional, Necromantic class in the future. I don't want or need Disease damage on any other class, the only possible spot was NB and Arcanist, and both of those classes have better possible fantasies via Bleed and Random Elements respectively. If Necro doesn't get Disease, which it should, then it would be erased from the game until an 8th class is released.
About the bit on Disease being weak, most likely because of PVE conceners? So easy to solve the same way Warden solved Frost/Chill. Necro can have a unique passive that improves Disease damage. Also this idea just isn't true anymore from when they reworked status effects.
The ratio used Burning as the standard so it looks like this:
Each of the 5 direct damage status effects have secondary effects in addition to their named debuff.
As long as you proc it quicker than the 2s interval Burning, Poisoned, and Hemo has, you can make any of the 5 direct damage status effects deal more DPS. The main difference and why those first 3 are popular is because they're easy to upkeep via DW Enchants or Ele Sus, but Warden and even Sorc proves the other non dot effects can be very powerful.
Disease damage on the class set is excellent news and a sign of things to come. We may actually be cooking with a real, traditional, Necromantic class in the future. I don't want or need Disease damage on any other class, the only possible spot was NB and Arcanist, and both of those classes have better possible fantasies via Bleed and Random Elements respectively. If Necro doesn't get Disease, which it should, then it would be erased from the game until an 8th class is released.
About the bit on Disease being weak, most likely because of PVE conceners? So easy to solve the same way Warden solved Frost/Chill. Necro can have a unique passive that improves Disease damage. Also this idea just isn't true anymore from when they reworked status effects.
The ratio used Burning as the standard so it looks like this:
- Burning = 100% (3 ticks)
- Poisoned = 66%~132% (3 ticks)
- Hemo = 75%~125% (3 ticks/3 stacks)
- Concussed, Diseased, Sundered, Overcharged, and Chill = 110% (10% stronger than 1 tick of Burning)
Each of the 5 direct damage status effects have secondary effects in addition to their named debuff.
- Diseased deals an additional 40% damage in an aoe on a 4s CD (Blighted Blastbones has a unique source of this, so no conflict)
- Sundered gives +100 w/s damage
- Concussed gets +15% damage done
- etc etc
As long as you proc it quicker than the 2s interval Burning, Poisoned, and Hemo has, you can make any of the 5 direct damage status effects deal more DPS. The main difference and why those first 3 are popular is because they're easy to upkeep via DW Enchants or Ele Sus, but Warden and even Sorc proves the other non dot effects can be very powerful.
Re: AI quests
Nothing will motivate me more to drop a game than incorporating "AI". I will abandon this game with no regrets if they allow AI slop.
Onomos
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Re: Declined for Gifting
There are certain criteria that have to be met if you want gifting enabled. They are not disclosed explicitly in any official ZOS page, but there is a community consensus about what needs to be done. Just ask Google AI about that and it will explain everything to you.
Re: The corpseburster change already has me concerned for the eventual necro rework
Necro needs to be reworked this year.
The class is too destroyed and needs to be reworked more than any other classes.
The class is too destroyed and needs to be reworked more than any other classes.
Re: The corpseburster change already has me concerned for the eventual necro rework
They gave DK's poison visuals back as skill styles, so even if the same thing happens with Necro I'd expect that the blue morphs will also turn into skill styles.
Morvan
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Re: A poll about crossplay
frogthroat wrote: »Yes, this will most likely be in the beginning. Markets will find equilibrium eventually and people will mix.SilverBride wrote: »
- The economies are too different.
Bigger difference than with people playing on EU servers, with dozens of nationalities and cultures? And these people shouldn't mix?SilverBride wrote: »
- The societal norms are too different.
Of course there will be an adjustment period, but don't underestimate people. We get along on the EU server just fine, although we have a myriad of cultures mixing. Mixing PC and consoles is not going to be that big of a deal.Yup. That is a task for the dev team, not us.SilverBride wrote: »
- Duplicate User IDs and names will have to be dealt with.
Yup. That is a task for the dev team, not us.SilverBride wrote: »
- Duplicate guild names will have to be dealt with.
A really good point. My guess is they will increase the amount of merchants throughout Tamriel.SilverBride wrote: »[*] There will not be enough merchants for all the trade guilds.
That last one is a puzzler to me.
Bids for traders are already crazy on PC (vs the 'weekly returns') to the point that many of us haven't traded 'for profit' for a long, long time; we trade to be able to finance the trader with the proceedings.
I have no reason to believe that console trading guilds are not at the very least as competitive as PC ones, if not more due to the fact that they had to conduct their business for most of their 'lives' without any addons (which requires serious dedication).
Unless some sorcery takes place with crossplay when it comes to trading guilds 'shark infested waters' is not going to come even close to the carnage that is going to be unleashed.
EDIT: I don't see 'increasing the number of merchants' as a solution either unless they want to undertake the work involved in 'remodelling' existing zones to accommodate them.
Not all traders are equal, not by a long shot, so when three trading guilds converge on the same 'desirable' trader after crossplay is enabled, 'oh but you have now traders available in the **** end of nowhere' ain't gonna cut it.
Is already a 'race to the bottom' to see who runs out of means first when it comes to hiring the most desirable spots, triple the competition overnight... as I said is going to be carnage.
ApoAlaia
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Re: Night Market Launch Time?
very likely the same time as anything else in the game.
10:00 est timezone, Maryland USA where Bethesda hq is.
14:00 utc timezone.
16:00 in my timezone GMT+2, currently 14:37
10:00 est timezone, Maryland USA where Bethesda hq is.
14:00 utc timezone.
16:00 in my timezone GMT+2, currently 14:37
Re: Conservation of Energy needs to be adjusted for the health of the game
Major_Mangle wrote: »Can't wait for another sorc meta...feel like I barely recovered mentally from the hardened ward meta.....
It's fine, this "sorc meta" people are scared of will be no different than the previous AC + Ass + SC/RL sub-classing meta we had before the DK refresh and won't be any worse than the current DK meta:
- Spec bow will be replaced by armaments that deals less damage, stacks fall off much quicker and comes with very mediocre passives that don't buff damage.
- Surprise attack will be replaced by twin slashes or dizzy swing (or BfB/AB for a magsorc that wants to try and copy this stamsorc playstyle).
- Shulks will be replaced by curse, just with no breach and a much clearer telegraph (and can be cleansed).
- Breach will have to come from ele sus (requires a bar slot and back bar ice staff)
- There will be no cleanse due to no netch, so expect your debuffs to linger on the sorc.
- No incap 20% damage taken debuff.
- Lower DPS overall due to missing a lot of the DPS (crit) passives that come from assassination/animal companions (even statics screenshots posted only show 4-4.5k DPS (or 5k dps on the max stam build that is very squishy comparatively) compared to DK pulling 6-6.5k DPS and WW (pre-nerf) pulling 10k+).
- Ward will be nowhere in sight because there's nothing buffing it to insane values like there was during U41 (wield soul with shield script would be infinitely better anyway if a sorc wanted to go with shields due to all the utility that can be added to it and that it can be self buffed with major vitality).
If you survived the sub-class meta, you can easily deal with this supposed upcoming stamsorc meta (despite WW and DK looking overall significantly stronger still on PTS outside of specifically survival)
