Why oh why are you making this so complicated. If you don't want us to hoard tome points just add a final bonus page with rewards that can be claimed infinitely. Could be anything from tri pots to any of the many many currencies already in game. Then I can choose to spend my points on what will be useful for me. I don't want you to auto claim stuff I've already chosen not to claim. That just makes me want to stop engaging with the whole tome as soon as I've claimed the last thing of interest. Which this season is page 4!

Nothing. I'm not one of the folks in the multiple forum posts that were asking for this feature.

I am curious to see how many new/returning/existing players use this feature, since it seemed to me that there were many people asking for it.

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virtus753 wrote: »

I’ve seen 16k quoted here on the forums, but Alcast lists just 15.2k for the free track, close to 16k for Premium, and just over 31k for both. I need to count it myself.

Here's my math. I only counted for the Free Tier, for simplicity, because I didn't have time, and I don't intend to buy the Premium or Premium +.
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virtus753 wrote: »

But where are you seeing that buying Premium gives you any extra points? I see only more opportunities to spend points.

Buying the “+ Bonus” tier gives you 2 caches of 2k TP each — which you can, but are not required, to spend on that Tome.

Neither tier forces extra points on you.

This is accurate, as far as I understand.

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(source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/guides/tamrieltomes)

My wording was a bit sloppy, and that caused some confusion. I'm sorry. The context here, though, is that people opened the caches without knowing they expired. So I was working under the assumption that the Premium + players would also open their caches, thus exacerbating the problem. However, since I didn't count up the Premium + tome point costs, I should not have mentioned the paid tiers.

I didn't follow your Premium and Premium + math, because I haven't looked into it, and my brain is a bit fuzzy today. (Too much Artemis 2!)

But on the Free Tier, every page costs 2K to unlock, correct? (I'm asking, since I have already earned some TP, my screen wasn't clear, so I did some quick math.)
12 pages (including bonus pages), 1 is auto-unlocked = 11 x 2K = 22K tome points needed to gain access to all the rewards.

Thanks for the math! Just added it myself (didn't see your post - nice spreadsheet!), and yes, Alcast (or whoever posted as Alcast) is missing 800 points from somewhere.

I got 15,990 for the free track too.

Every page except the last requires 2k. Per the UI, both bonus pages unlock at 20k. This is unusual, and maybe it's part of why they named them separately.

So 20k to unlock everything, less the 15,990 spent on the items, then carry over 2,000 to next season = 2,010 completely lost.

They'll have to figure out this cache issue. I'm not going to touch mine until the end of the season.

Hope you're enjoying Artemis Two!

I appreciate the changes. The Van Helsing Werewolf Vibes going on here.

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Maybe it’s just me, but the hair on the head looks too much like a mohawk. Does any of the new skills styles belt out a snippet of “Achy Breaky Heart” when you use them?

I'm glad other players are having the same thoughts about the hair on the head. Definitely needs to be adjusted during the pts cycle. 🐺

@ZOS_Erin

Will PvE encounters like March of Sacrifices or the Lord Hollowjack boss fight during the Witches Festival be modified to allow Werewolves who are Prowling to function like players who are stealthed?

It's particularly frustrating in March of Sacrifices when you can't interact with the hunting wisps in Werewolf form unless you do the side content, which itself requires you to interact with the hunting wisps.

Please make start-to-finish Werewolf only runs of March of Sacrifices possible!

As is often said, Housing is the real endgame! There's even a huge (and wonderful) housing community called The Real Endgame xD

That's NOT to say it's a good thing; it's a valid complaint. All of those things do suck if you're a newcomer and it takes a long time to get the unlocks, abilities, and gold to make it all viable or even something you don't really think about. Veteran players can forget how hard it is when you're truly fresh.

Furnishing materials drops, for example, were actually buffed in a very recent update – Heartwood alone was, IIRC, something stupid like ~4000 gold per piece on PC NA a few years ago. Eventually you make enough gold to buy stacks of them instead of trying to farm them yourself, and the boosted drops from nodes are a bonus.

Likewise, right now would have been a good time to get mats and Shimmering Sand from Jubilee coffers, and you can double up by doing daily quests in Rimmen - those coffers can give Shimmering Sand. You can also run around opening chests in N. Elsweyr. But it's still way too little to do a full house, and this year is even harder to farm because they nerfed drops from Jubilee coffers. Here, again: if you're a rich vet, right now you're having a great time buying stacks of Sand "on sale" because there's tons on the market from other players selling these drops.

(Even vets are complaining that some styles like Fargrave and Dwarven take like 10-20 of their special style material per piece. I hope that's a future QOL update.)

And frankly, I agree with your wife and whitecrow:
Mobs are just an annoying hurdle to me. I play khajiit with specific gear + skill sets to sneak-run by everything unseen, I don't engage unless I want to. But again, that's another thing that's really annoying until you've leveled up and know what to do.

Housing in this game is just not friendly at all to newcomers. And worse, you may be frustrated enough to be tempted to buy from the Crown Store, where most of the stuff is craftables you can get in-game for cheap gold. Better learn what's what from UESP, because the game itself doesn't tell you where anything comes from – https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Furnishings

that is awesome indeed.


if i heard it correctly during the stream, the Favours board posters will be furniture too

I like all this, thank you for the work! I'm particularly excited about some form of stealth detection, and the changes to werewolf transformation timer/maintenance sound very positive.

Regarding the model - I think the new model is an improvement over the first but my first reactions include:

1) Why do the ears have to be so pointy and long still?
2) I get there being technical limitations to fur coverage, but is it possible to simulate fur coverage more with texture like we see on this pet wolf, without causing the sort of technical strain you are talking about? If nto, I suggest just going even darker on the skin color
3) Size increase is cool and unexpected
4) Maybe it's just the angle of the screenshot but the tail looks short / nonexistent - I'm sure we'll get a better sense when we see in on PTS monday.

Overall we very much appreciate you guys at ZOS giving werewolf attention. I look forward to testing on PTS.

Honestly? Probably nothing. I might bump it up a notch on general principles, but getting from Point A to Point B is not supposed to be an adventure in itself. If I want to beat my head up against waves of trash to no good purpose (I don't need the XP or the gold), I'll go play a souls-like.