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Re: Question: Tome Points Expiration vs Premium giving "forever" tome access
JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »So, let me get this straight.
If we have an excess of 2000 tome points, enough to buy something else, we will be *forced* to get the stuff we didn't claim from the tome?
So, if I skip all the potions and upgrade materials because I don't want them, but manage to earn enough points to get them at the end, I have no choice but to take them?
If I'm reading @ZOS_GinaBruno's comment correctly, then yes. Bites biggly if true. OTOH, getting something rather than losing everything in excess of 2K is marginally better than the alternative, but shoving a stack of Crown Meals into my inventory (which I will immediately destroy) because that's what RNGesus decided? Yeah, not a huge difference over just losing the points.
Based on what she said to, if you have more than one Tome active, excess points will be allocated automatically to the oldest tome first, and rhen onto the second, and third etc...
Bah, this is annoying. If there is stuff that I absolutely dont want then I honestly feel more incentive to just avoid the tomes and challenges entirely.
This feels counter productive and is not helping me feel any benefit to buying in. Which, while good for my wallet cant be what ZOS wants.
Re: Werewolf Update From The Combat Refresh Team
Techwolf_Lupindo wrote: »Erickson9610 wrote: »
When I started playing ESO, I went all in werewolf style. I went into MoS as a werewolf and ended up getting kicked after a while. Does ZOS really want new players to get kick from dungeons just because they are werewolves?
March of Sacrifices is one of the two upcoming Solo Dungeons, so now is the right time to inquire about Werewolf's new "sneaking" mechanic in relation to the werewolf dungeon.
Re: Question: Tome Points Expiration vs Premium giving "forever" tome access
It's interesting. Because with the daily login, you still received stuff you didn't want. So I don't see this as a difference. At the end of the season, you'll end up with stuff you don't want- same as the old system.
My issue with this is that I thought this was meant to be an improvement over it, and if it is going to be forced, why bother to make it so that we seemingly have the option to skip it, and even with the dailies, we had the option to just not claim the dailies.
Sure, we couldn't get anything after, but we didn't have to claim the stuff we didn't want.
Plus, the dailies had the 'free' idea behind them.
By making us 'purchase' the rewards, it just feels wrong to make us 'purchase' rewards we don't want, especially since some tome points will roll over and others won't.
I am even fine with the idea of just losing those points and NOT getting the things I don't want (and have no use for, but my brain doesn't want me to delete, just in case!!!!) rather than having them forced upon me.
Though, I think that the ability to turn points back into caches, even at a loss (say a 2000 point cache would take 3000 points to create) would be best.
I understand the reasoning behind not allowing the rollover (at least what I think the reasoning is), but don't necessarily agree with it.
Re: Should jumping into water put out fire?
Sure, but then people just also instantly die if jumping in water while struck by lightning.
Jammy420
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Re: Oh how I wish we still had Chapters
I'd personally be fine if they managed to return to the story design and depth, and writing quality, they had in ESO's earlier years, in particular what we saw in base game, Wrothgar, and the Morrowind - CWC - Summerset story arc. After that, the decline began, though Elsweyr was still good for me, and I also liked Greymoor for the overall atmosphere and some of the characters introduced. But after that? Well...
There were just a few stories that felt particularly well-written and had that typical TES feel for me within the past few years: the Tel Dreloth quest in Telvanni Peninsula, Corelanya Manor in West Solstice, and Zerith-var's storyline. They had some truly tragic aspect without immediately destroying the atmosphere with some stupid quips or juvenile jokes. They had morally ambiguous situations and characters, without immediately lecturing the player like a child about how bad these deeds and people were. They felt more mature than most ESO stories nowadays, and also a bit more complex in theme. This is exactly what I'd like to see here!
And just last week I found out that these three quests/questlines were all written by the same writer (it's stated like that on UESP). If they're wise, they should involve this writer more, especially also into bigger storylines. Then I see a chance that ESO could, over time, get back on the level the writing had back at Summerset times. But if that will happen or if we'll get more shallow, quippy, "funny" meme stuff...?
I'm not against a bit of humour, by the way. ESO always had some funnier moments, also in base game. But it was on a different level than what we saw in the last few years, and the writing also had many serious stories as a contrast.
I just replayed Zerith-var's intro quest on a different character a few days ago. I haven't played his whole storyline yet, but so far, I really enjoy that character/story. I think he's probably the best companion they've introduced, at least storywise.
Kallykat
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Re: Please Stop Preying on FOMO
Only way to get them to stop is to disengage. Miss out because it's not worth it. When fomo causes a drop in engagement numbers, they will stop releasing content that way.
xylena
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Brace yourself for an influx of pvers about to give you their wisdom on why Vengeance is better
Is Greyhost disabled again? Please say it isn’t
It is disabled again, for that week only.
It has also been confirmed that permaVengeance will drop in U50 alongside Grey Host as the two options
tomofhyrule
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Re: Oh how I wish we still had Chapters
So, some of you are saying chapters, with all of the different content they had were formulaic, but a chore list of doing the same thing multiple times is not?
That’s irony at its finest. I guess you like busy work.
What it really boils down to, I guess, is that some people are just playing for the social aspect.
That’s irony at its finest. I guess you like busy work.
What it really boils down to, I guess, is that some people are just playing for the social aspect.
katanagirl1
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Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Tamriel Tomes Season Zero Developer Update"
Let me preface this by saying that I appreciate the communication and transparency but I have some concerns about the system. I’ve been a gamer for a very long time now and to me the Tome is very obviously just another battle pass. Those are fine but they’re typically used in games that don’t have a subscription model so the premium section not being auto unlocked for ESO+ members just seems wrong to me.
That’s more of a general concern but as far as specifics go, I just don’t understand the reason behind gating pages behind a certain threshold of tome points when it’s quite literally impossible to spend those points given the prices of what’s on offer. The season is just a few days in and I already have more than enough points to buy everything in the free section but for some reason I have to earn another 8000 points to unlock the pages, 8000 points that I literally can’t use because there is nothing to spend them on and only 2000 of which will roll over. Even if you factor in the premium offerings you still need to earn far more points than are necessary to buy everything just to unlock the pages. There is clearly a big miscalculation going on with these values and that’s definitely something you need to look into.
That’s more of a general concern but as far as specifics go, I just don’t understand the reason behind gating pages behind a certain threshold of tome points when it’s quite literally impossible to spend those points given the prices of what’s on offer. The season is just a few days in and I already have more than enough points to buy everything in the free section but for some reason I have to earn another 8000 points to unlock the pages, 8000 points that I literally can’t use because there is nothing to spend them on and only 2000 of which will roll over. Even if you factor in the premium offerings you still need to earn far more points than are necessary to buy everything just to unlock the pages. There is clearly a big miscalculation going on with these values and that’s definitely something you need to look into.
Re: Oh how I wish we still had Chapters
Chapters were nice because you knew roughly what you were getting. A new zone with the same checklist and some small features. While that did get stale, it set player expectations. We didn't need to be constantly informed, checking roadmaps and other official communications, to know when XYZ feature is coming out.
Now that we're in a seasonal model - the only takeaway I want is more packaging. So for this season, the features are being spread out in a confusing way. For instance, the art for the Season is focused around the Night Market, which isn't out yet. It's the flagship feature of the reason - right? - and didn't launch with the season opening. That's an odd choice.
There's a balance to be had and I think they're still figuring that out in yet another transition year. Season flagships should launch with the season. I'm fine with the class reworks releasing independently of that.
Exactly. By saying you are okay with not getting chapters you (not you personally but the hypothetical “you”) are saying I’m okay with getting less. Less is not very quantifiable, it could be slightly less or it could be significantly less. The delayed timing also makes it feel worse right now. This game has been traveling down a rocky road for the last year or more, it really needs to get back onto smooth payment quickly.
The changes already are making the game feel less like Elder Scrolls to me. I hope they can do something to correct that. I used to spend a few minutes to crank out a few Endeavors and then go do something I want to do, now I look at this long chore list (kill 1000 enemies in 3 zones is just one of them) and think wow, I’d like to go do this other thing but I need to get started on these chores.