The one time Veng and GH ran side by side, GH was poplocked and Veng was a wasteland ruled by EP. There is a player base that prefers GH/BR and we're all sick and tired of these "tests" ruining our experience. It's not fun, and I've got other amusements to occupy my time.

So ZOS, you ABRUPTLY end a very competitive PvP campaign and replace it with the ridiculously simplistic combat in VENGEANCE!?

This, along with the horrible combat design enabling ball groups (over-the-top damage mitigation, spam-able while moving AoEs, snare immunity from Snow Treaders, and other poor decisions) , recent over-powered DKs (did we really need another ability that requires the slow break-free to get out of?) and super-tanks requiring many, many players to kill (again over-the-top damage mitigation) so they are free to burn siege or use siege at will, may finally have me CANCEL my ESO Prime.

If you lose me as a PvP player (since release, 12 years?) don't expect to keep many others vested in this game's PvP. Just look at your PvP populations in Vengeance.

--Dyn (an unhappy PvP player and customer)

Just saying... each time I click a link from the game launcher to read the latest news, it seems like I always have to verify my age... this is getting old. Please remove it.

PS, I'm already logged into my account so this is twice annoying.

AScarlato wrote: »

I mean, people don't really like being lectured to in entertainment about modern social issues when they are playing a fantasy game in an entirely different setting. Characters in veilguard sitting around in a circle and correcting each other about pronouns is cringe, even more so that this happens more than once in the story, and I'm sure people are afraid that they would get more of that. Luckily that didn't happen here.

Oh, but nothing says "fantasy adventure" quite as much as having the character's preach smugly about their identities, in a vocabulary and style that are wholly out of place in the world they supposedly inhabit! Sarcasm aside, Syldras is right about this issue. Nothing wrong with having characters that are different from "normal" in a fantasy story, but it must be handled in a way that fits the world of the story.

Besides, at least I won't pay for hearing lectures about something that doesn't really interest me in a way that insults my intelligence, like so many so-called entertainment media does today. I pay for having a good time and maybe exploring interesting ideas and worlds. So I agree with you whole-heartedly on this.

AScarlato wrote: »

As far as the "woke" thing, it's overdone and I'm tired of people that just dismiss everything they dislike as "woke" for no reason. They do it for women simply existing as main characters, people of other races, all kinds of things and it's just eye-rolling to me. That's not the same thing as asking questions about the narrative, and if someone's discourse is yelling "woke" when they see a character that isn't a cis white male I simply don't engage with them personally.

Yes. The hyper-sensitiveness about smelling "wokeness" everywhere is tiring, too. Heck, by the most insane standards even Tolkien of all people was woke, because he wrote Galadriel and Eowyn as having important roles! That hysteria is an unnecessary, but maybe unavoidable, overreaction to the Veilguard-style activist writing that has crept into every media. I wish this stupid polarization and strive towards ideological purity would cease and telling good stories would be returned to the centre of the artistic intention. All kinds of fanatics are so exhausting.

AScarlato wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I honestly think people hold non-binary characters to a higher standard than other characters. Like complaining about pronouns.

For some maybe. But at the same time I'm not going to lower my standards because they are non-binary either. I personally think they did a disservice writing Tanlorin to be off-putting to many people if they wanted positive non-binary representation.

If Zerith-Var ended up using nonbinary pronouns for whatever reason I honestly would not care at all as he's otherwise a cool character with a great story.

I agree with this.

If the only thing that changed about Zerith's storyline was that he now used They/Them, then it would still be a great story line. If the only thing about Tan's storyline that changed was that they now used 'She/Her' or even 'He/Him', then I would still think it was a flawed storyline and that the character itself wasn't that good of a character.